Obama Administration Looks To Criminalize Christianity in the Military

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In a stunning attack on the speech rights and free religious exercise of U.S. soldiers, the Obama administration has released a statement confirming the unthinkable: Any soldier who professes Christianity can now be court-martialed and may face imprisonment and a dishonorable discharge from the military.

 

The statement released to Fox News earlier today:

 

Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense…Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis…

 

 

This statement follows a recent meeting between Pentagon officials and fanatical anti-Christian activist Mikey Weinstein, who helped design the new punishments for Christians who dare to commit the hate crime of sharing their faith with others.

Breitbart.com adds:

 

Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians–including chaplains–sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of ‘treason,’ and of committing an act of ‘spiritual rape’ as serious a crime as ‘sexual assault.’ He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are ‘enemies of the Constitution.’

 

 

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  • Damon Hart

    Tell me this is fantastic horse shit

  • Cheryl

    Then he should resign. America was built on religious freedom. Thats why the rest of the world comes to America. Thats why soldiers go to war..to defend our freedoms. What comes next?

  • Marcus

    “one Nation under God” this is in our pledge of allegiance, unifying America as a God loving, freedom fighting Nation. If he can’t deal with that than I agree, he should just simply resign.

  • Allan Brewster

    Obama should have been facing treason charges long time ago. The people that got Obama nominated for the primary in 2008 did it through voter fraud which was a criminal felony, which makes Obama a criminal felon and illigitmate President.

  • naomi cooney

    I heard a minister say Sunday, that if we keep pushing God away, He will allow worse things to happen to our country. Like you said, What’s next? May God please keep His hand on America!! This is really scary!!

  • Ann

    I bet there will be a lot of Christians that go to jail for this and get kicked out! This is an outrage and the left wing is discusting! (sorry about the spelling but it makes me mad)

  • Greg Weaver

    You can profess your Christianity all day long. But if you proselytize to the point of making other soldiers uncomfortable, then you get a talking to. Which is good, because it’s not right for say, a senior ranking member to effectively force a junior member into a corner with religion.

    i.e., a 2Lt pushing some enlisted men into attending his Scientology meeting.

    Sadly, between pushy religions and Multi-Level-Marketing scams, a lot of that crap goes on.

  • Greg Weaver

    “Under God” was added in 1954, to distinguish us from those “Godless Commies”. Just an FYI.

  • Colleen

    I am so happy that you understood the post! Too many people these days don’t take the time to find out the meaning of the words being used, and decide on their own what things mean. It doesn’t say you can’t BE Christian, or even tell people that you’re Christian, you just can’t try to convert someone while using the military as your podium. This also applies to all the other religions, not just Christianity.

  • Kathleen

    As a retired AF person and my husband is the same, I never endured a person, clergy or otherwise, pushing his or her religion upon us. Service of all kinds were offered, but it was up to the officer/Airman to decide to attend. The military made it available for all who believed, regardless of denomination or faith…not a requirement. People need to get over picking issue with things that are non issues. More in the world to be focused on that than some one innocently sharing their religious ideas. WE ARE A MELTING POT – we do not have to agree, but we do have to be tolerant.

  • Michael Pierotti

    Nope. This is the Merika we now live in!

  • Sharon

    That is ludicrous!!! What if it makes a military person uncomfortable to have homosexuality pushed and proselytized on him/her. They are brought up on charges if they dare to disagree, yet this kind of crap is shoved down our throats continualy!

  • John

    Why should he resign? I’ll give you 50 bucks if you can show me in the article where it says that this was Obama’s idea.

  • Patrick D

    Will the same rules apply on Muslims in the USAF,s.? We all know how they are taught to convert all unbelievers

  • George M. Mendoza

    The Constitution is based on the Bible :( is so sad how people is doing this great atrocity to this country. Maybe Obama did not think but he let it go trough he is as guilty as the one who did.

  • Nemesis

    Why isn’t the MSM (especially FOX) all over this? Hmmm?

  • Lathan

    Do any of you idiots even know what the word “proselytization” means???
    Did you bother to look it up?
    This outlaws *spreading* religion, or trying to convert people, *regardless* of your beliefs, essentially guaranteeing religious freedom by not allowing fellow military members to cram their religion, be it Christianity, Judaism, Sslam, or Atheism down your throat.
    There is nothing in this statement that either says or indicates the freedom to express your religion in respectful manners is going to be outlawed, punishable, or anything else.

  • Lathan

    Of course, the memo only says “religious proselyztization,” and applies to all faiths; including atheism.
    Dont forget that the bible also teaches to spread Christianity.

  • Fabian

    Did any of you guys even bother to click on the link? It clearly stated that its okay to be a Christian so long as you don’t try to convert others or haze no Christians such as muslims for not being Christian. I’m a corpsman in the navy and have heard of muslim americans getting hazed to the point where they go suicidal.

  • thomas clark

    What makes you think I would let an officer tell me what I can and cannot believe in. I would tell him to go kick rocks.

  • Scarlet Ann Lovell

    I was born a proud USAF brat. But with all the BS going on today everyone needs to stand up & be accountable. People do need to understand what they read. It takes more than 1person to make things happen in the USA. If change is needed then make it happen. Slander is not the answer. We need to complain to the elected. If they don’t fix it. Vote them out. After a few go they will start hearing the people and know we mean business. But you can’t talk unless you act!!!!!

  • Michael

    Lmao you still think soldiers go to war to protect our freedoms? Wake up.

  • Fabian

    “Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense…Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis…”
    I Bet most of you don’t even know what proselytization freaking means. Anyone can be Christian and be open about it so long as you don’t dtry to convert others and haze them for not doing so.

    Source: I’m actually in the military, I don’t just read an article of an article and make assumptions.

  • Chuck

    But who decides when sharing or discussing stops and proselyzation begins? Some over-zealous atheistic lawyer? An atheist who gets “offended” at the mere mention of God? Which, by the way, has always amazed me. That they get offended by something they feel is not true. Anyway, who decides? Even if the member is accused, they still must go through the hassle of defending what they said in a courts martial.

  • JOHNSON

    You Americans, now you should regret for electing this man for the second as President,

    He is here to wipe out your Constitution, don’t be surprised if he continues for the third term without election.

  • Cyd

    This isn’t pushing God away, it’s simply discouraging them from pushing God on other people. That’s what “proselytizing” means.

  • Cyd

    Three things are wrong with that statement. One: Homosexuality is not a religion, and therefore does not apply to this situation. Two: Homosexuality is innate, and therefore cannot be spread to other people, and therefore cannot be proselytized. Three: There are already rules and laws in place for the people that do try. It’s called sexual harassment.

  • Cyd

    Look up the word proselytize. It means “to induce a person to convert to one’s religious faith, doctrine, cause, or political party.” It does not mean you can’t believe in God, it’s just saying you can’t force other people to.

  • jeanie

    It may not say whether he did it or not, but he has done numerous other things that makes me hear the big fat word…IMPEACH!!

  • Wayne

    Ya know if everyone would just realize that we all have the same God. Different people just call him by different names. This is the problem in this world or at least one of them. Of course you have to be able to look beyond the greed and other such trivial things and open your mind to come to the realization that. We are all supposed to be of the human race. Gods children.

  • jeanie

    I agree Naomi, it’s only going to get worse…I believe it says in the bible that the nation that forgets God, will be turned into hell. Be blessed :)

  • George McCarlie

    They have gone to far, their time has come

  • http://Davvvyc.blogspot.com David Candel

    Amen.

  • http://www.omegaministries.org tom

    2nd Thessalonians 2 says that God himself will send strong delusion to those that do not love the truth. We’re past the time of asking God to save America – it’s not a Christian nation and it never was – if it was, then the Constitution would not declare itself as ‘the Supreme Law of the Land’ (Article 6) but it would instead declare Jesus Christ as such.

    We are at the point of the reprobate mind according to Romans 1. God’s extended hand of grace will be ending soon. The homosexual uprising and continual murder of thousands of innocent babies daily will not go unpunished.

    It is time for those called by God to sanctify themselves and prepare the way for the return of our Lord as he comes to sit as judge and king over all.

  • MamaMcCoy

    You think homosexuality cannot be proselytized? What do you think they’re doing in our schools when they’re implementing same sex education courses for our five year olds? You don’t think they’re trying to accomplish something there? It is being shoved down our throats at every turn and we are FORCED to accept it or face hate charges or something else ridiculous. Christian businesses are now being prosecuted for refusing to perform services for gay couples (i.e. a Christian photography company that was forced to photograph a gay wedding against their will and their beliefs). Where’s the equality in THAT? It’s okay to force Christians to change their lifestyle, but Heaven forbid we ask the gays to make any compromises.

  • Lois

    Amen Marcus! “One nation under God.” And if he doesn’t like it, he can leave this country.

  • http://www.MichaelZWilliamson.com Michael Z. Williamson

    It depends on when and where. One has never been allowed to proselytize, and when in Muslim nations, one is ordered to comply with local law, which generally precludes overt presentations of any other religion.

    This is not new, and not a violation of anyone’s rights.

    If you believe you have a right to tell me about your god without me asking, I believe I have a right to punch you into the ditch.
    So, no, Christianity has not been “Criminalized.” Forcing me to listen to your religious beliefs without my consent has been re-affirmed as illegal.

  • http://www.MichaelZWilliamson.com Michael Z. Williamson

    Atheist. Veteran. Retired military. Never fought for your god or anyone else’s. You’re welcome.

  • http://www.MichaelZWilliamson.com Michael Z. Williamson

    Well, good. I hope they do get kicked out.

    Had to file two complaints myself in 25 years of service, because two clowns just would not shut up about their god.

    Doesn’t matter to me who you worship, just like it doesn’t matter to me what you look like naked. I just don’t need to see it unless I ask to.

  • http://www.MichaelZWilliamson.com Michael Z. Williamson

    There are 5 year olds in the military?

  • http://www.MichaelZWilliamson.com Michael Z. Williamson

    And how was a photographer “Forced” to photograph a gay wedding? Were they threatened with licorice whips and lace?

    Oh! They’re coming to take your god!

    Sounds like your god isn’t very good, if a little thing like that can scare him off.

    Maybe: Your god is a lot stronger than that, isn’t threatened by this, and doesn’t need your mortal help. eh?

  • http://facebook.com/immandie1 Mandi

    That was removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, God was removed from our schools and now our military … It’s no longer the America that was strong and proud because we are allowing this

  • http://facebook.com/immandie1 Mandi

    I agree and even if he didn’t know about it anything he did should be void and another election put into place

  • Bob Wagner’

    And this is why, while I don’t agree with you on every single political point I DO respect the Hell out of you for reasons that have nothing to do with your ability as an author or bladesmith Mike

  • Jill

    Didn’t they do this in Roman Time’s ;….. Throw the Christians to the Lions…. I am from the UK , and I find this unbelievable. Why is it that our Government’s what ever Country we live in , are trying their hardest to wipe out any decency in the population. Your President was voted in for the second term,, we have another couple of year’s before our Prime Minister come’s up for re-election. I so hope the UK does not make a mistake ,

  • Bob Wagner’

    Congress shall **make no law respecting an establishment of religion,** or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    First Ammendment. This is not a Christian nation. This is a nation with Christians in it. Subtle difference. And as another person already pointed out, “One nation under God” was added in 1954 as an anti-communism measure.

  • MamaMcCoy

    So if you ran a company and had chosen not to do business with particular customer because it violated your soul-deep beliefs, but were facing charges or the loss of your company for refusing, you wouldn’t consider that being “forced?” And if you read what I actually wrote, I said nothing about five year olds being in the military. I wasn’t discussing the military. I was discussing his statement that homosexuality cannot be proselytized.

  • wings

    AMEN.

  • Guin

    And forcing me to conform to your idea of religion should be illegal. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? What comes next? We start arresting people on the witness who say “so help me God”?

  • Bob Wagner’

    I’ll see your 2nd Thessalonians and raise you the 1st Amendment. You have the right to pray to whoever or whatever you want in this country. You DO NOT have the right to make your faith the law of the land

  • Flmom

    You might have the right to respectfully ask to not being preached to but you most certainly do not have the right to punch anyone in the ditch!

  • Kourtney

    You know what I think? I think Obama can go fuck himself. Glad I don’t live in the us, he is fucking everything up and making the world a horrible place. The first black president will be great they said, he will make a good change for us they said. Fuck you, he sucks…. And he knows he’s setting half this shit up… Can’t have people at schools protecting innocent children but you can put 8 security/cops around your daughters school… Oh your so amazing aren’t you,?? God blesss you dick nose

  • ivan salis

    ok under these rules –Obama is “commander in chief” head of the military * so when he as president gets on the TV or radio stations and says “I am a Christen” –or “God bless America” –shouldn’t he be “brought up on charges”? as any military member should under these new “rules”

  • Kevin

    He is not fully black, he is only half black. We are still waiting for a black president.

  • Lynne Rae

    Get off the Marxist lie Kool-aid Force is not shareing…forceing is when you say no thanks or reject or ask that I dont share I still do so anyway. Wasn’t gonna comment but I hate bold lieing

  • TJ Carpenter

    Why soldiers go to war and why soldiers are sent to war are two different stories.

  • Mare

    Sadly, Guin, they’ll simply remove or alter the wording of the swearing in procedure. (Perhaps to “so help me Barack”?)

  • Bob Wagner’

    Exactly WHERE do you get the idea that a document who’s very first clause establishes that there will be no state religion is based on the Bible? You’re proven wrong in the first five lines

  • Miss Betsy

    Thank you for this clear-headed point of view – perspective is key in such stories as this and it is too bad that the authors chose “quotes” to suppot a misleading headline/conclusion

  • Al Ashton

    God loves you Michael and sent His Son to die in your place for the penalty you owe. You can punch me if you like but it won’t change the facts.

  • Lina

    why does color matter? eiither way its racisim i have more than one race in my family and saying that a black president would be better is ignorant. What matters is your character, your morals, and your awareness of right and wrong… and standing up to those who are wrong and fighting for the what is right.

  • Mare

    Wayne, there is only one true God. Unfortunately, He is not everyone’s god. We do not all worship the same god. There’s a reason various gods are called by different names. There is only one way to get to heaven and those other gods are not it.

  • April

    According to our constitution, I have the right to tell anyone anything I want, including talking about Christianity. You on the other hand have the right not to listen. By the way, read the constitution, it was founded on CHRISTIAN values!

  • April

    AMEN!

  • Mare

    I hate when Obama quotes scripture. He’s not a Christian any more than I’m a Mercedes Benz! I’m sure it must leave a foul taste in the mouth of a Muslim to quote the Bible merely for the sake of appearance and deception.

  • April

    I’m still waiting for him to show us a REAL birth certificate.

  • Lance From Illinois

    Fuck that shit I am a Christan and say fuck that who is a Black man that is not full American to say an American soldier cant express his feeling about our beloved God!!! Obama is the mother fucking Anti Christ an needs to step down before we are all dead from his choices!!! Amen to that an every soldier that is a Christan need to stand in front of Obama an scream their father prayer…

  • April

    Amen to that!

  • April

    It sounds to me though that they are going to use this new “law” to punish Christians just for being Christians whether or not they try to share the Lord’s truth. Just letting it be known that you are a Christian in the Military and BAM..court martial.
    Just sayin’…..

  • Russ

    You are an idiot.

  • April

    Just wait, it will be.

  • Lance From Illinois

    I hope to GOD!!! That Obama dose not have ideals like this and the CHIP… Not sure if true if can be enlightened about that Please… And hope he is reading every word of these post.

  • April

    It’s easy to sit back and say, “Vote them out”, but unfortunately though, those who were voted into Congress and the Presidency were voted in by idiots and it appears that there are more idiots than non-idiots.

  • Kim

    this outrageous….where is freedom of religion….Obama needs to be impeached….he is worthless….it is our constitutional right to freedom of religion as well as freedom of speech ..this is just unthinkable..and unfathomable….he is ruining the great USA

  • April

    Well said Mare.

  • roel escamilla

    I would note that the article is wrong. A Chaplin in the service of his duty wouldn’t be charged with a crime under the UCMJ. However, a Christian who repeatedly confronts his fellow co-workers unrequested with issues of religion in an effort to convert them; thus disrupting the unit and becoming a threat to good order and discipline, would be guilty of a crime. Also the article made it a point to note that, “Obama’s civilian lead pentagon,” neglecting that the pentagon has always been run by civilians– we have a civilian controlled military. On both points, the issue with proselytizing and the civilian run military, they report it as if it’s a new phenomenon– it isn’t. There have been many cases of military members being charged, under courts martial or non-judicial punishment, for disrupting the unit in this way. In fact freedom of speech doesn’t apply to members of the military while under contract. Freedom of expression is also limited when under contract. . In fact many of the “constitutional” rights and liberties they Americans take advantage of everyday aren’t accessible to members of the military. The fact is simple it isn’t an attack the Christians, nor any other religion. I was in the Marine Corps and I know for a fact that it is a GOOD IDEA not to allow proselytizing! I was ordered to attend, what was advertised as a non-religious, memorial service. Yet, the prayer was Christian based. I was ordered to attend a graduation of a class where the invocation was done by a Christian Pastor. I was required to listen to the music my GySgt played whole at work, which was all Christian music. When he spoke about J-E-S-U-S, sin, salvation ect.ect.ect I was required to listen to it without argument. That can make for a hostile work environment. Military members don’t have the ability to just get up and walk out of the room when someone is proselytizing to them, nor do they have the right to practice their own religious freedoms if they conflict with a senior– regardless of the chain of command or what is right or proper. Young military members are often not aware of their rights and it is the duty of the command to protect those rights. No person should be able to Proselytize in the work place. That goes double for the military.

  • April

    He professes to be Muslim. I’m a Christian..I believe in the one true God…I’m offended! But, who cares that I, the Christian, am offended? Certainly not our Government!

  • Preston

    All one has to do to see what WILL happen to the U.S. is look at what happened to Israel…when they turned away from God, they were CONQUERED, SOLD into slavery, taken from their homeland, and oppressed. This wasn’t a one time thing…it happened over and over again in their history (read Judges in the Old Testament if you don’t believe me).

    *Next, where does God say man has the RIGHT to religious freedom?
    He says, “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a JEALOUS God, PUNISHING the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who HATE me, 6 but showing LOVE to a thousand generations of those who love me and KEEP my commandments.” (Exodus 20: 4-6)

    We dare to sing, “God Bless America,” but we tell Him, “Stay out of OUR government, stay out of OUR schools, and even, stay out of OUR LIVES. So, why should He bless America? Those of you who are parents, do you reward YOUR children when they are DISOBEDIENT? Why then should our heavenly FATHER bless our nation when it is disobedient to Him?
    *Indeed, your lives are NOT your own, for Paul says, “Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are NOT YOUR OWN? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body[c] and in your spirit, which are God’s.” (1 Corinthians 6: 19-20)

    As such, anyone who does NOT live for God is a traitor–for all nations are under His authority.
    *Mel Gibson played William Wallace in “Braveheart,” and when he was brought before the judge to be tried for treason to the crown of King Edward of Britain, he said, “Never in my entire life have I pledged my loyalty to him (the King).”
    The judge replied, “It matters not, he IS your King.”

    *Some will live for God, some will deny Him, but ALL will stand before Him–and by their lives, words, and actions, He shall JUDGE them. After all, it matters not–He is YOUR King.

  • jerry long

    some one with thier eyes open …… finally, thank you!

  • Kinzie

    Where do you live?

  • Paul

    If this is true, then I see the fall of the US soon. History has thought us that every great nation swallowed by pride, and self reliance is destined to failure.

  • Josh

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    I cannot believe you people think this is real!

    Using Fox News as a source is worse than citing The Onion in a term paper!

    OMGZ
    LULZ

  • Tedswife

    …ad the little green men

  • Nathanial Lee Vigder

    Civvies outrank military in our country. It was a safeguard built in to keep the nation from becoming a military controlled dictatorship. Which is why the office of president is considered a civilian position, regardless of whether the holder of the office is a veteran or not. So Obama BinLaden is considered a civvie, even though he commands the military, and as such, is still allowed to say any religious thing he wants. You really only need to worry when the government tells the civilians they can’t practice their religions. Then we are all foxtrot uniform charlie kilo echo delta.

  • Paul

    The majority of those who came down to Boston to sympathize with victims, are people who have a sense of religion and fear of God in them. when we start brain-washing people in this manner, the spirit of feeling for the other will gradually die down.
    “But i believe the right person will come to keep the nation on the track. So don’t panique”

  • Terry

    Well since Obummer has no character, morals ETC ETC he should be removed from office and tried for treason.

  • SALLY

    HADES MINION CALLED AND YOUR YOUR RESERVATION AT LUCIFER’S PARADISE RESORT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.

  • Ember

    Well said!

  • David Z

    There is a difference between proselytizing and religious expression. Feel free to express your religion as much as you wish. Feel free to offer me a chance to join your religion. When I politely decline, that should be the end of the conversation. If not you would then be harassing me and abusing your religious rights to infringe upon mine. This is especially wrong when someone uses their position of authority to influence you or order you into their religion.
    I am an honorably discharged US Marine. I am also an atheist. While I served, I was punished, threatened and nearly arrested for refusing to attend church services.

  • P. Jones

    USMC retired??

  • David Z

    That is your belief, please stop pretending it is fact. I have no king and I have no god. You are free to have either, but please do not include me in it.

  • P. Jones

    A voice of reason.

  • David Z

    That is a belief. That is not fact. I don’t wish to punch you. I wish to support your right to believe it, and would hope you have the decency to support my right not to.

  • chris

    Christian values? How very simply wrong. The foundations of our constitution along with the ideas incorporated withing come from way before Christianity. “Christian values” are nothing special and many older religions and ideologies have had them for much longer.

  • The Headbanging Soldier in the Metal Army

    I will tell you folks that Obama is an Atheist. He does not believe in God or the Devil nor Allah. He acknowledges nonbelievers and now the Atheists are coming out in full droves to eradicate Christianity and embrace smoking pot, doing drugs, more chain smoking, Obamas hate metal music and things that are not of the gangbanging rap shite.

    His mother was an Atheist (a militant one in fact who looked at religions as if they were a punchline and didn’t celebrate Christmas nor birthdays and makes sure his fake daughters don’t get fluck all). He only joined the Chicago church so he wouldn’t p*ss the blacks off and get power. Then once elected, he threw the blacks, the church and Jeremiah Wright under the bus.

    Before he makes his speeches, he and his racist wife and buddies like Pelosi, Reid and the ilk all tell anti-God jokes. With Obama stating “we’re no longer a Christian nation”, acknowledging Atheists and also had an image of Jesus Christ on the cross covered, those are all signs that Obama is a MILITANT ATHEIST! Atheists are miserable, bigoted, despicable people (with some exceptions).

  • The Headbanging Soldier in the Metal Army

    April, Obama is an Atheist (not a Muslim). He is a cultural Muslim but does not practice and he is an Atheist by character and by principle because his mother was a militant Atheist. God is a joke to him. Many examples I give is why Obama is Atheist.

  • judy tyson

    well said john

  • Retired Army

    Any soldier, sailor, airmen and marine will tell you that the Uniform Code of Military Justice is the governing gospel of the Armed Forces. Unless I missed something, there have been NO changes regarding religion – it is not addressed. So even if the president makes a comment like this, which I doubt he did, it would have no effect on the military until our current and non operational congress took action – not likely in my lifetime.

  • jim

    I am a follower of Jesus. I am not surprised by all the terrible things that are going on in this world. The word tell us all these things will happen. What bothers me the most is that those who claim to be “Christians” are here using fowl language, sarcasm, words of hate and anger. Jesus taught us to love everyone, each other, our neighbors…even our enemies. I see no love in these comments from the “Christians” here. We may not agree with all that the President and government are doing, but we are told to PRAY for our government and leaders, and that’s what we need to do. Prayer works, debating beliefs does not. Behave like Jesus instead of debating what you believe. God is still on the throne and is still in control…Pray and Love and let God do His work.

  • Karen

    NOTHING came before Christianity – Except darkness- In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth – then he sent his Son – Christ !!

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  • Sid

    Actually Kourtney, it’s about 25 secret service

  • Bob G

    There is not now nor has there ever been anything called “separation of church and state.” Go back and learn what our Founding Fathers had to say about it. And it is certainly NOT in our Constitution.

  • Tim

    They also changed our motto from “E Pluribus Unum” (Out of Many, One) to the current “In God We Trust” about the same time, and for the same reason.

  • Tim

    Homosexuality is being shoved down our throats? Interesting choice of words.

    If a Christian was denied service by a gay-owned business, would that be OK?

  • MamaMcCoy

    If that’s the way they choose to run their business, fine. If a gay business owner has a problem with Christians and chooses not to cater to them, that’s his choice; it’s his business. And in today’s society, that WOULD be perfectly acceptable; certainly no one is going to file a lawsuit on behalf of the wronged Christian consumer. After all, Christians are nothing more than terrorists in our governments eyes. But that’s where the difference lies. See, most people don’t feel the need to bring the courts into all of their decisions and force people to accept them and cater to them. But in this “it’s all about me and everyone must accept me” culture that we’ve created, everyone feels that they must force themselves on everyone else. It’s despicable.

  • Glen Meade

    There are 2 forces at work in this world, one is Jesus Christ the other is Satan. There are no other choices. If you don’t line up with Jesus you are in the other camp. Read 1 John 5:19.
    We all get to choose the camp we want. God doesn’t force you to believe in Him. But when it’s over you get to go to the place with or without God.
    Don’t let people turn you off to life in Christ.
    Don’t get offended when those excited about life want to tell you. Just tell them you are not ready to listen if you aren’t.

  • Leah

    Interesting how you have twisted this so it reads as though Obama is attacking Christianity solely. The regulation, if put into place, will penalize anyone discussing ANY religious views – that means Jewish and Muslims in the military will be held to the same standard. Since you seem to be reporting this as only a Christian problem, one has to wonder if you would still be mad if they made an exception for Christian soldiers, but still said Jews and Muslims could be punished for discussing their religion…

  • PP

    We should all be forced to live by the rules and regulations of the UCMJ. That would take care of all this nonsense. LOL

  • Leah

    I think Christians are bigoted, ignorant, hateful people – with some exceptions (not including you). PS – My husband is in the Army, we don’t drink, we don’t smoke, we don’t do drugs, and we live a very happy life with our three beautiful, well-behaved children in the south alongside our many Christian friends and neighbors. Tell me again why Atheists are such terrible people?

  • Gareth

    If they criminalize a Christian for saying that there is a God, then they should criminalize equally those who say there isn’t – for atheism, despite popular belief, is in itself a religion, and you’re forcing that down other people’s throats too.

    I don’t think either should be criminalized. So much for freedom of religion. Nobody is forcing anyone to become part of a religion. There is a difference between that and proclaiming your belief.

    Criminalizing the mere mention of Christianity is going much too far in any case.

  • Gareth

    This Weinstein talks about and writes books about ‘Freedom of Religion’, yet forces anti-christianity into the US Military. Now there is no longer ‘religion’ nor is there ‘freedom’. Tell me, what is this supposed to accomplish?

  • postman

    Wienstain,weinstien or whatever the dumba– name is and IDIOT period…end of story.

  • colby cooper

    separation of church of state doesn’t appear in the constitution…but religious freedom does. If you are asking Christians to remain silent, that wont happen. We are called by God to speak his gospel. When governments try to limit this or ban it, it is not a republic…but a dictatorship. Michael, to spread Christianity one does not simply cram it down your throat. We are called to present it calmly and with love, not hate. You are a classic example of a liberal who doesn’t understand anything about our faith.

  • http://www.dimedianet.com Shawn

    The New “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy

  • Gareth

    Did you not read the extract?

    “Christians–including chaplains–sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of ‘treason,’ and of committing an act of ‘spiritual rape’ as serious a crime as ‘sexual assault.” and “Christians sharing their faith in the military are ‘enemies of the Constitution.”

    This quite obviously singles out the Christian religion.

  • Mike

    You right-wing nuts are also bat-sh*t crazy, always ready to believe anything and everything you read. Come on people, do a little research before you spread falsehoods. Bearing false witness isn’t very Christian like. I don’t have time to sit around and buy every conspiracy theory that’s spread by the right. I’m too busy making a living and having a bit of fun to spend my days worrying about the boogey man.

  • Leah

    That is a single quote taken from ONE person involved in this. That ONE quote and that ONE person does appear to have a single target, but the entire regulation does not. Do yourself a favor and hop on over to a more thorough news source, which will tell you that this affects all religions.

    Here’s a quote from one of those sources, albeit a Christian-oriented site: “So President Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime–possibly resulting in imprisonment–for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)–whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort.”

  • Harry

    Very intelligently said. I think that making such claims as “Christianity has been outlawed” is going over the top and shows a lack of good reporting. It is just as bad when the Right makes untrue claims as when the Left does. Either way it kills the credibility of those making the claim. This could be “spun” to say that “Islam has been outlawed” or “Judism has been outlawed”. None have been, just the act of forcing your views on others. BTW, I detest n’Obama as much as anyone, but bad reporting only hurts the Conservative cause.

  • Harry

    Pagan, Veteran, Retired military… good on you: same here!

  • http://reddit.com/r/atheism Atheist Bob

    Man created god in his image: intolerant, sexist, homophobic and violent. – Marie de France.

    It is true this country was founded by atheist men who wished to keep religion in the home and nowhere else.

    “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors.”- Thomas Jefferson

    http://www.examiner.com/article/20-quotes-from-historical-americans-against-the-u-s-being-a-christian-nation

  • Harry

    I agree Cyd, after all which “God” should we allow to be pushed on people? The Baptist God? The Jewish God? The Presbyterian God? The Jehovah Witness God?

    Me, I believe that one can believe in what they choose to, but it is MY right not to have them push their belief in my face. They do that and I will return the favor.

    BTW, I hate n’Obama as much as everyone, but I hate it when the Right twists the truth as much as when the Left does.

  • Harry

    Lance From Illinois – for a so-called Christian, I find your choice of words to be very un-Christian-like. Or is that how Christians really speak in their churches?

  • Elman

    Michael Williamson, we are all free to choose our master, but we are not free to end our slavery. We are either a slave of righteousness by choosing to live for Jesus Christ or we are a slave to sin. So when you preach for gay rights and any other sin, you are forcing me to hear about your god and his beliefs. And by the way, we have freedom of speech, remember? Not freedom to punch though. And how can I force you to listen? You also have to freedom to walk away or ask me stop. It the same for me, if I don’t want to watch filth on TV, I have to change the channel, as you would say. It’s not so much of sharing my ‘faith’ but my life. It’s who I am as an American.

  • Mikey Boneli

    People calm down this is not Obamas doing this is the doing of one thing one evil doing his name is Lucifer and thats that no man can have so much evil within them with out accepting evil…

  • Elman

    Ok, so are they trying to make a law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or the freedom of speech, or of the press? Sounds like it to me. In 1954 we were predominately ‘one nation under God’, a big difference than today.

  • jason d harbert

    I am active duty and I will never stop talking about my GOD…He is the only Savior..He will judge everyone and He will return I believe sooner than later…If you want me to stop professing my faith and talking about Jesus Christ being the earth form of GOD and dieing on the cross to forgive you for your sins,,,,well then your gonna have to kill me….I guess I”m just a MARTYR IN THE MAKING>>>>>GOD over Evertything!!!!

  • Elman

    Syd, no one can push God on you anymore than someone can push being gay, a pedophile, drug addict or any other life style. Harry, if a Jehovah’s Witness comes to your door to push their belief on you, It’s not hard to get rid of them… close the door. I’ve never one try to prop the door open. I think we ought to make telemarketers illegal too but that’s just my thoughts. haha But then again, I can hang up the phone. It’s always worked before.

  • Elman

    Two complaints in 25 years! You poor thing. That must have been rough on you. I’d like to know what BS they had to endure from you. lol

  • Boog E mann

    Come to Memphis and walk down Main street at 2 am and tell me that being black does not matter. It won’t be a white guy bending you over the garbage can and raping you or your girl. It won’t be a white guy cutting your throat when he is done. It’s not the white people that are killing their 2 year old children and throwing the body in a dumpster. You must live in LaLa land to think that blacks are not a dangerous race. They are killing themselves off. Now how can a black president that was disbarred for cheating be good for America? Wake up Dumb ass.

  • Boog E mann

    Now I lay me down to sleep. I pray the Lord my soul to keep. If I should die before I wake. I pray the Lord my soul to take. If some worthless ass should need to die. Let it be that Obama guy. Amen.

  • Byron

    It’s not in the constitution, but the phrase was coined by ole TJ in a letter that was meant to explain his interpretation of the first amendment…so we know at least one founding father had something to say about it.

  • justapatriot

    Although you may have a valid point or two, no one is going to listen to you. The foul language and slurs do nothing to further the cause of restoring our country to it’s former greatness. Try expanding your vocabulary and sticking to the point.

  • Shawn

    Give it up, Cyd, common sense and sanity are out the window. Faux News has spoken.

  • Ron Ivey

    Just try to punch this Christian, asswipe, and you’ll feel the wrath of St. Peter all over your worthless body.

  • Nikki

    The Pentagon is affirming its no proselytizing (inducing someone else to change their religion or beliefs to yours) policy while ‘on the clock’. For shame! Muslims should be held as a captive audience to hear about Christianity while on the tax payer dime. Christians should be forced to hear about Islam. Jews should be pushed against their will on Christianity. That’s what this country is all about! Forcing your beliefs on others – the way god intended! What is the Pentagon thinking… trying to push some sort of religious freedom, freedom from persecution, as if that’s what the founding fathers wanted. Unbelievable!

  • Elman

    Flmom, thank you. Sounds like Michael’s issue goes deeper than just wanting to stop preaching of the Gospel.

  • Elman

    Chris, you’re right to a degree. Many of our founding fathers were not ‘Christians’, but they were ‘deists’. They believed in one God, creater of heaven and earth. But many of them were believers in the ‘Christ-tian’ faith. That’s history, just not in our history books.

  • Elman

    They can take their pick. Either you can have me push my belief on you by talking about Jesus or you can have some Islamic radical push his belief on you by blowing up your town. You choose Mr. Mike.

  • Elman

    LIke someone in the military posted, chaplains don’t preach at people. People choose to go listen to the chaplain who believe in God. Nobody’s committing treason. What a lie!

  • Cynthia K

    who come to them for counsel

  • rb

    Guin;
    Separation of church and state is a myth. Separation of church and state does not exist in the constitution. The first ammendment to the constitution says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Funny how it seems we have forgotten that Congress is not allowed to pass a law even inhibiting the free practice of any religion. No one seems to remember that part.
    Religion is none of Congress’s business. One way or the other.

  • Victoria

    May God BLess you.

  • urgh

    THIS WOULD APPLY TO ALL RELIGIONS YOU MORONS.
    you are having a fit because it would not exclude christianity, YOU FUCKING GIGANTIC BABIES.

  • Allan

    To my knowledge no one in the U.S. has never been “forced” to listen to any religious sermons unless you chose to be there…

  • Dawn Ludwig

    I cant believe this has gone this far. THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON CHRISTIANITY….PERIOD. OBAMA IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE THAT EVER HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY. I NEVER VOTED FOR THIS GUY, AND I NEVER WOULD. THIS COUNTRY IS FINISHED!!!!!
    THAT WAS HIS ENTIRE PLAN, TO ENCITE ANOTHER WORLD/CIVIL WAR AND ITS GONNA HAPPEN!!!! IT MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT.

  • Dawn Ludwig

    You probably dont want to know my friend. Seriously. Nothing is beyond OBAMA….nothing…
    Next, he will be taking our Bibles from us.
    Yes, this country was built on religious freedoms and values. Does this not make you sick?

  • Dawn Ludwig

    Not just resign, but GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Eric

    What a bogus thread – the story is obviously incomplete and not very informative – I’ll watch the real news before I jump to a concussion and flip out…

  • DawnML

    God does NOT allow bad things to happen, I dont know who this preacher is, but he is not preaching the true ways of God. Satan makes bad things happen, NOT GOD.
    God is here to pick us back up when satan pushes us down.
    Just keep your eyes focused on God, as His are always focused on you….

  • Jordan

    How so very Christian of you.

  • EH Soares

    That is such bullshit that this country was founded on Christianity. Religion and politics should not be mixed-period. I am so sick of hearing that.

  • Ahole

    You are all fucking idiots if you believe any of this shit.

  • DawnML

    Yes Michael Z….there was a photographer that turned down a gay wedding because of their beliefs. You dont know what you are talking about, that is probably why your talking out your butt, because your mouth knows better…..IDIOT

  • DawnML

    yet politicians are allowed to shove their views down our throats??? how rediculious is this

    All I can say is if you deny Christ now, He will deny you to His Father….then you will end up in Hell, burning in the lake of fire forever and ever…think its funny? You wont be laughing after Christ returns!!!
    Ill be praying for all of you Christ haters, and non believers…Please turn to Him who died for you, and your sins…please…!!!!

  • DawnML

    Obama knows exactly what he is doing…Exactly, there is no accident here

  • T.R.

    EH, maybe you missed it when the founding fathers wrote, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it”. So in declaring their freedom from a destructive government they based their freedoms from GOD. Maybe you just don’t like to hear it.

  • Jan Wilburn

    What history are you reading – the United States of America was invaded by Europeans seeking religious freedom, escape from debtor’s prisons and political escapees fleeing from a tyrannical Monarch…and it was founded on religious principals that men were given inalienable rights by the Creator.

  • Alexander

    Bull. America was founded by DEISTS. Not Christians. They believed there was a god, but not your god necessarily. The reason that the separation of church and state is included is because religion and politics don’t mix well. (also, gonna have to burst your other bubble here you probably have. ‘Under God’ was only added to the pledge in 1950′s, not there from the beginning.) America was founded as a free country with no religious affiliation outside of believing in either a god or multiple.

  • Lisa

    For idiots that are not in the military or never read their BMR’s this has always been a rule you are not allowed to force your religion on another. Look up the word proselytization. That is what this discussion is about not about being a Christian or being a Jew, Muslim, Witch or even about being a Satan Worshiper. If you have a religion you are not allowed to harass others into following your beliefs. Freedom of religion always entitles us to freedom from religion.

  • john

    last i checked you need a god or an intelligent designer to be considered a religion…. seeing as atheist don’t meet that criteria we are not considered a religion atheism in itself is the understanding of why there is no god not a belief we have seen the evidence we know him to be false… unless there is now a church of the shower since i do belief my shower will work tomorrow it must be a religious thing right? also if they had made a law against atheism think of how all of these comments would change on here laughing at atheists for their dumb “beliefs” just about everyone here would change their tone……. also the earth isnt 6000 years old you religitard

  • Henry

    The colonies were breaking away from the English crown, in order to do that they had to invoke a higher authority than the king of England ie. God it was a political expediency of the time.

  • Henry

    wrong! I was in the military there were officers and chiefs who pushed it and if you didn’t conform to what they belivedthey would make your life hell and try to get you thrown out.

  • Henry

    here too never fought for faith

  • Henry

    you forgot Allah and the God and Goddess in paganism

  • Henry

    innocent babies are not being murdered the bible says life doesn’t begin until it’s first breath. Jesus never said anything about gays but he did heal a roman centurions favorite (gay) servant.

  • Henry

    Boog E Mann
    1 John 2:10-12

    King James Version (KJV)

    10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

    11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
    and
    Matthew 22:36-40

    King James Version (KJV)

    36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

    38 This is the first and great commandment.

    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
    you and many of your so called Christians better pack for hot weather when you die.

  • john

    don’t forget the freemasons

  • http://jingerjarrett.com Jinger

    I have yet to see any mention of this particular rule applying to all. Instead, Christians were specifically targeted. It’s not just an issue of freedom of religion, or even freedom of speech, it’s also an issue of discrimination because one particular group is being singled out. Just remember, when you seek to restrict the Constitutional rights or any rights of one group because you are offended, eventually, your rights will be restricted or done away with as well.

    Like as not, if you actually read the founding documents, like the Declaration of Independence, you find that those rights are “endowed by a Creator.” Without a Creator, you have no rights.

    As for freedom from religion, exactly where is that one in the Constitution? Oh yeah. Right next to the part about separation of church and state. No wonder this country is in so much trouble. There is knowledge but no fundamental understanding and wisdom. God won’t be responsible for the demise of this country. We are, and it’s something we as Americans need to take responsibility for.

    This is simply one more divisive tactic on the part of an administration to take the focus off what is really happening in this country in order to continue to destabilize it.

    Weinstein was on the O’Reilly Factor, and the only example he cited of this in action was that 136 Marines received rifles from a defense contractor that had a bible verse engraved on each one, and he couldn’t even cite the verse. How sad.

    If you think the Founding Fathers valued things like tolerance and political correctness, you might want to give their writings a more thorough reading. The Election of 1800 between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams comes to mind. No, they prized freedom above all, and as Americans, we should too. If we do not, pretty soon, we won’t have it anymore.

  • Josh P

    You’re all a bunch of fucking disgusting pieces of shit. How can you believe this horseshit? You can all burn in your own hell.

  • http://www.thirdwatchproductions.com Blaine Cooper

    Obama is the Antichrist no doubt in my mind he is just like Hitler!

  • http://www.thirdwatchproductions.com Blaine Cooper

    Obama is the Antichrist no doubt in my mind he is just like Hitler!
    The American people our cowards and continue too allow a Muslim terrorist to control our country if you want hing to change you will have to remove him by force and kill him.

  • http://www.overcomerministries.com Xgaygreg (Greg Haislip)

    Jesus is Lord !!

  • Arthur

    I think you know nothing of American history.

  • Billy The Moon Budhist

    There’s a fine line between soldiers forcing religion on people and soldiers not being allowed to discuss individual beliefs and interests freely. I dont believe american soldiers are forcing christianity on people and if they are they should stop but the answer isnt passing a law saying that any soldier caught speaking his mind will recieve a dishonorable discharge. If the american people cant see this is another blattent attempt to put fear in them and scare soldiers into becoming better immoral riot officers for the powers that be then theres less hope then i thought. To all those on here playing into their hands and arguing about the irrelevant facts instead of true issues wake up!

  • jose

    “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” ever hear of that? So if you believe that all non believers will burn in hell after they die , LET THEM!!!! If you believe God will judge them, let HIM do it !!! Stay out of others business and don’t force what you believe on others!!!

  • jose

    So you state that only YOUR God is the way to heaven. That’s why in the history of this planet more blood has been spilled over religion that any other reason!!! If you do not believe in MY God, then you must die !!! Insanity !!!

  • jose

    Are you still demanding to see his birth certificate too?? Admit it, a black man is President and you can’t stand it !!! So you cover your bigotry in religion!!! How sad !!!

  • MamaMcCoy

    How sad it is that you take something that had nothing to do with race and immediately jump to calling her a racist. She never once mentioned having a problem with his race. She mentioned having a problem with his hypocritical religious spewings. If you liberals can’t come up with any better arguments than playing the race card at every turn, I would suggest perhaps educating yourselves a bit so that maybe in the future, you can put together relevant and coherent arguments.

  • Molly Browndorf

    You are a complete dumb ass! You are the most gullible person I have ever heard. Do you not question ANYTHING?? Apparently not! Duh……

  • jose

    So you advocate the forceful removal and killing of the duly elected President?? Hmmmmm, and you would want him replaced by whom, exactly???? Call Fox News so they can tell you how to answer that question !!!! What a mindless oaf !!!

  • D

    HAHA shoved down their throats……

  • Sharlet

    Your concern over Christianity is obvious based on your lies and twisting of the truth with the sole purpose of stirring up anger.
    Separation of Church & State. Freedom of Religion. Brought to you by true Patriots: our Country’s Founders & Authors of the Constitution.
    The opposite is Fascisim.

  • http://urstupid your dumb

    you are really really stupid

  • TomTom

    It never takes long before some know-nothing, indoctrinated Useful Idiot for Cultural Marxism starts blathering baseless slogans.

    So Alexander, why don’t you give us ONE quote where the 204 Founders all say, “I’m a Deist!” Of course, this brain-dead clown Alexander never gives a quote. Like any Useful Idiot he doesn’t need real information gleaned from an original document, all he needs is the programming to believe everyone who is white, Christian, heterosexual, and male is wrong because they’re “evil oppressors.”

    Fact: More than half of the Founders were Anglicans.
    Fact: None of the Founders were Jewish, Arab, African, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, Asian, or Eskimo.
    Fact: None of the Founders said, “Hey! Back off Christians! We are all Deists!”

    There are around 27,000 handwritten documents by Thomas Jefferson in the Library of Congress. Not a single one says, “I’m a Deist guys!” There are many where Jefferson says he’s Christian. Thomas Jefferson rented a pew in a church so he’d have a place to sit every Sunday.

    So if Thomas Jefferson:
    a) Never says he’s a Deist but says he’s Christian many times
    b) and Rents a pew in church and attends every Sunday
    Then magically he’s a Deist.

    Libtard Logic (to include Libertarians)

  • TomTom

    “One has never been allowed to proselytize”

    Another brainless, Useful Idiot for Cultural Marxism.

    George Washington proselytized personally to the red Indian.
    Thomas Jefferson sent missionaries to proselytized to the red Indian.

    Both used taxpayer money to proselytized to the red Indian. Both were Presidents of the United States. Both were Founders of the United States.

    You’re not simply wrong, but you’re so indoctrinated you’re beyond stupid. You’re 180 degrees in the opposite direction of correct and you just keep running with it, posturing, pretending you know something. No one is that stupid, but plenty are indoctrinated.

  • TomTom

    Another brainless moron posturing knowledge he’ll never have. For starters, your so-called quote is wrong. If you want to quote something then do it, but don’t make things up just to prove a point.

    “This is not a Christian nation. This is a nation with Christians in it.”
    Beyond stupid, way beyond stupid. A stupid person can at least be correct on accident. A Useful Idiot for Cultural Marxism is so far beyond stupid he’s not only wrong but he can’t even manage to be correct on accident.

    Which of the 204 Founders said, “I’m a Deist”?

    Which of the 204 Founders said, “No Christian Prayers in Congress!” Or how about “No proselytizing to the Red Indians!”?

    Which of the 204 Founders said, “We shouldn’t swear Oaths on the Bible! That’s racist!”

    Bob Wagner thinks “all of them!” They were Libtards just like me! (Libertarians are Libtarded Leftovers)

  • TomTom

    A melting pot suggests Americans must turn up the heat so others melt. Tolerance doesn’t melt anything.

  • http://segw-online.com jeromy robbins

    MR Priesident obama is in this action. Commiting an act of treason to the united states and the constitution.As the constitution gurantees both the right of relgion and to practice it. also it guarantees the right to freedom of expresson Down with the tyrant!

  • http://segw-online.com jeromy robbins

    MR Priesident obama is in this action. Commiting an act of treason to the united states and the constitution.As the constitution guarantees both the right of relgion and to practice it. also it guarantees the right to freedom of expression Down with the tyrant!

  • Tim Brooks

    Exactly what Jesus himself would have said! In Matthew 5:9 the Son of Man says: “If someone slaps you on one cheek, call him a name and make him to feel the wrath of St. Peter upon his worthless body.”

    What a wonderful example of Christ you are! I presume you are a member of Westboro Baptist?

  • TomTom

    Proselytizing means “pushing God on other people”?

    Are you really that stupid or are you just indoctrinated?

    So now, magically, we’re indoctrinated to believe that rectal prolapse is caused by men giving birth.

  • http://video.foxnews.com/v/2342660060001/will-us-military-court-martial-christians/?intcmp=obinsite kt

    Further research gave me this information. There are already laws against discrimination based on religious differences in civilian life and in the American Military. This a an extremist atheist pushing his story to anyone who will listen.
    So far I have not gained any information stating that it is a criminal act to practice your faith with in the military that is approved by Obama, whatever your faith may be. The court marshal comes into play if a commanding officer or superior makes practice of a ONE favored religion a requirement for everyone across the military, unit, brigade, or MOS. That is also illegal in civilian life as it infringes on the Constitutional right to practice “freedom of religion”.
    If I myself as a superior in my field of career tried to push my faith onto an inferior while they are not willing nor do they want to gain information of my faith my superiors would be within their own right to refuse my continued employment.

    Please research on your own. It is possible to gain information from a reliable source without much influence of falsities. Also, always cross reference where you gained your information so that you know you are gaining as much factual information as possible. We are in America and have the right to information and the right to educate ourselves. Take the opportunity every chance you get.

  • http://video.foxnews.com/v/2342660060001/will-us-military-court-martial-christians/?intcmp=obinsite kt

    Further research gave me this information. There are already laws against discrimination based on religious differences in civilian life and in the American Military. This a an extremist atheist pushing his story to anyone who will listen.
    So far I have not gained any information stating that it is a criminal act to practice your faith with in the military that is approved by Obama, whatever your faith may be. The court marshal comes into play if a commanding officer or superior makes practice of a ONE favored religion a requirement for everyone across the military, unit, brigade, or MOS. That is also illegal in civilian life as it infringes on the Constitutional right to practice “freedom of religion”.
    If I myself as a superior in my field of career tried to push my faith onto an inferior while they are not willing nor do they want to gain information of my faith my superiors would be within their own right to refuse my continued employment.
    Please research on your own. It is possible to gain information from a reliable source without much influence of falsities. Also, always cross reference where you gained your information so that you know you are gaining as much factual information as possible. We are in America and have the right to information and the right to educate ourselves. Take the opportunity every chance you get

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/2342660060001/will-us-military-court-martial-christians/?intcmp=obinsite

  • Ken

    Deism as defined today is nothing like it was, as defined in the 18th century. Below is information every American should know about their country.

    “The real strength of Franklin’s motion, from the conservative viewpoint, is as an example of his supposed “deism,” which is a far cry from what some would make it out to be. Franklin obviously felt that God governed in the affairs of men, not exactly the general understanding of today’s deism. But many people attempt to anachronously impose today’s definition upon Franklin, Jefferson, and others, implying they had nothing whatsoever to do with religion. This is usually done to support a broad, separationist approach to religion and government, which is inconsistent with the words and deeds of those who created America’s political system.

    Franklin, as well as all of the Framers of the Constitution, realized the value of religion in society. And they realized the value of prayer in the weightier matters of politics. As it turns out, Dr. Franklin was not senile at all; he was simply asking for divine assistance in what proved to be the formation of our American system. Perhaps there were no “official” prayers during the Convention, but denying that the delegates wanted God’s blessing and direction, now that would be senility.”
    See the entire article here:
    http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=98

  • Nikki

    For TomTom:

    In the United States, Enlightenment philosophy (which itself was heavily inspired by deist ideals) played a major role in creating the principle of religious freedom, expressed in Thomas Jefferson’s letters and included in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. American Founding Fathers, or Framers of the Constitution, who were especially noted for being influenced by such philosophy include Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Cornelius Harnett, Gouverneur Morris, and Hugh Williamson. Their political speeches show distinct deistic influence.

    Other notable Founding Fathers may have been more directly deist. These include James Madison, possibly Alexander Hamilton, Ethan Allen, and Thomas Paine (who published The Age of Reason, a treatise that helped to popularize deism throughout the USA and Europe).

    Benjamin Franklin wrote in his autobiography, “Some books against Deism fell into my hands; they were said to be the substance of sermons preached at Boyle’s lectures. It happened that they wrought an effect on me quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist. My arguments perverted some others, particularly Collins and Ralph; but each of them having afterwards wrong’d me greatly without the least compunction, and recollecting Keith’s conduct towards me (who was another freethinker) and my own towards Vernon and Miss Read, which at times gave me great trouble, I began to suspect that this doctrine, tho’ it might be true, was not very useful.” Franklin also wrote that “the Deity sometimes interferes by his particular Providence, and sets aside the Events which would otherwise have been produced in the Course of Nature, or by the Free Agency of Man. He later stated, in the Constitutional Convention, that “the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth — that God governs in the affairs of men.”

  • Nikki

    Also some actual logic for TomTom:

    In 1760, at age 16, Jefferson entered The College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, and for two years he studied mathematics, metaphysics, and philosophy under Professor William Small. He introduced the enthusiastic Jefferson to the writings of the British Empiricists, including John Locke, Francis Bacon, and Isaac Newton. Jefferson biographers say that he was influenced by deist philosophy while at William & Mary, particularly by Bolingbroke.

    Terminology such as “Nature’s God” – which Jefferson used in the Declaration of Independence – are typical of Deism, although they were also used at the time by non-Deist thinkers, such as Francis Hutcheson. In addition, it was part of Roman thinking about natural law, and Jefferson was influenced by reading Cicero on this topic.

    Most deists denied the Christian concepts of miracles and the Trinity. Though he had a lifelong esteem for Jesus’ moral teachings, Jefferson did not believe in miracles, nor in the divinity of Jesus. In a letter to deRieux in 1788, he declined a request to act as a godfather, saying he had been unable to accept the doctrine of the Trinity “from a very early part of my life”.

    Jefferson was directly linked to deism in the writings of some of his contemporaries. Patrick Henry’s widow wrote in 1799, “I wish the Grate Jefferson & all the Heroes of the Deistical party could have seen my… Husband pay his last debt to nature.”

    While many biographers, as well as some of his contemporaries, have characterized Jefferson as a Deist, historians and scholars have not found any such self-identification in Jefferson’s surviving writings. In an 1803 letter to Priestley, Jefferson praises Jesus for a form of deism. He expressed similar ideas in an 1817 letter to John Adams.

  • Ken

    Exactly TJ. Both of my sons went to Iraq. They chose to go, believing they were fighting for America. They still believe in America.
    What exactly can these young men do? Refuse to join? Perhaps, but how will that help?

  • Nikki

    It’s not about practicing your faith. It’s not pushing your religion in an effort to convert someone to their religion. How would you feel, that while you were doing your job, an Islamic person came up to you and started preaching and trying to convert you to Islam?

    That’s the point of this and it has nothing to do with practicing your religion. You may openly pray and worship but do not infringe your religion on someone not asking about it.

  • Nikki

    There’s a difference between practicing and forcing your belief on others by trying to convert people of opposing religions and/or views. This is about military people, while on the clock, trying to convert people to their religion. How would you feel if an Islamic person came up to you trying to push their beliefs on you while you were working? I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate it.

  • Ken

    Bryron… you are anachronously biased.
    Freedom of Religion is what was intended and written into the US Constitution. Not separation of religion from state – as there is no way to remove one from the other regarding ALL citizens without violating the Constitution and the founding documents all include references to the Creator as the source of our inalienable rights.
    This administration is pushing its ‘anti God” agenda as far and as wide as it can – regardless of the Constitution. They have been slapped down by the US Supreme court on several issues and I look for more decisions against their arrogance in the near future.

  • Caleb

    @Henry, I couldn’t have put it better myself. Great choice of scriptures. Maybe Boog E Mann will read what you posted, repent, and get saved. In the beginning was the Word….and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. That Word is Jesus Christ and there is power in the word.

  • Den

    Well….I’m not in the military, but let’s just pretend I am for a few minutes shall we Mr Obama and Mr Weinstein. God bless everyone, and Jesus be praised. Now…..how about you two MF get your s–t together and come and get me and see what that gets you.

  • http://www.asterling.com Amy Sterling

    I never thought I’d see this day. Now it’s here. So I guess we all know what we have to do.

    Fight.

  • http://www.asterling.com Amy Sterling

    It’s just an excuse to persecute Christians.

  • Liberty

    Kourtney you said it all!

  • Liberty

    Next it will be the churches. freedom of speech it being compromised littlt by little. after another 3 and a half years we wont have any freedoms left.

  • Mad Dog

    You act like this country was found. alls some one had to do was walk here from Mexico. This is juz kinda strange so if u cant be Christian can u pray to allah? I dunno

  • Daniel Schwartz

    Yeah he’s half black and half crazy.

  • Mad Dog

    I have seen signs of god strange but different signs.

  • kefa

    Thus says The Lord to the United States: Obama shall lead you. And by him shall My will and judgment against your nation be fulfilled, for all its forsaking of Me and My Israel…
    And so I have brought from among your enemy even one from Ishmael, to rule over you for a time and a season, foreordained, until that foretold is accomplished and the king of fierce countenance rules. Then, by that deception conceived of by your enemy and this transgressor, him being full of lofty and elevated words, lies and dark speeches sold as hope, will it return against him ten-fold of the same, by him called Perdition.

    Yet remember this: Nothing exists outside of Me, says The Lord, neither does anything continue outside My will; for even the evil of this present world is set within the confines of My will. For evil acts and brings forth of its own, yet is unaware that nothing is hidden before Me; neither has anything come to pass, nor will be, that I have not already beheld… And this, O arrogant and deceived generation, is why I said, “All was written and completed, even before the foundation of the world.”

    For I am God! THE GOD!…

    The God of Abraham,
    The God of Isaac,
    The God of Jacob!…

    The God of all!…

    Even of all that is known and unknown,
    The Creator of all things…

    The Everlasting, who is from everlasting to everlasting…

    I AM.

    http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=God%E2%80%99s_Will

  • sick of ignorant

    Now go walk through the Washington Monument, read EVERYTHING written in it, then come back saying how much of what those who made this country what it was a few decades ago were against Christianity based on what they had inscribed in the steps and walls of that monument, and nearly EVERY OTHER famous monument in that area, while keeping in mind that they laid out the monuments to form a cross in the ground as another monument that few even pay attention to.
    EH Soares, you may be sick of hearing it, but that’s only because you are among those who are offended by the TRUTH!!!

  • Jeffery

    I think it’s funny you guys think he’s black still.

  • Terri Russell

    I made the HUGE mistake of voting for him the first round,but I sure didn’t do it the second time.I STILL want to know wtf voted for him this second time?What did he accomplish in the first round that even made people want him back for 4 more years?Is it true that they bussed homeless people in from shelters,promised them a good meal,etc in exchange for them voting for Obama?No wonder he wants the unemployment rate to keep going up..it means more homeless,more votes for him!

  • Ric Jarvis

    Regardless of whatever colour he may be, he fails on all of the other counts !

  • Tom Gaddis

    Did you all know that The Holy Bible was actually the very first “textbook” that was used? Watch the movie Monumental with Kirk Cameron. You will not believe the amount of facts that have been erased from history.

  • Scott

    From the Treaty of Tripoli: “The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.”

  • Jose Sellman

    It is fantastic horse shit. What the law was about was off duty religion pushing regardless of religion. Fox and their GOPtard machine like to hawk certain phrases and make the worst possible bullshit accusation they can. There is no judicial punishment unless you keep offending the order. First few times are verbal councilings then a letter of repfimand. Nobody is taking religion out of the service. Churc services are still going to happen on Sunday, don’t worry.

  • Jose Sellman

    It is fantastic horse shit. What the law was about was off duty religion pushing regardless of religion. Fox and their GOPtard machine like to hawk certain phrases and make the worst possible bullshit accusation they can. There is no judicial punishment unless you keep offending the order. First few times are verbal councilings then a letter of repfimand. Nobody is taking religion out of the service. Churc services are still going to happen on Sunday, don’t worry.

  • Lord Smashington

    I’m going to call bullshit on this, otherwise quite a few military chaplains are out of a job.

  • tonykeywest

    Any real Christians would have gotten out of Americas sodomite military long ago./ if not . now is the time. God hates America/ God hates Obama

  • Annoyed

    “Hate crime”? Are they freaking serious?!?!?!

  • http://none Steve Tuttle

    This is a true story to all that think it’s BS, I’ve seen things posted here that have nothing to do with the importance of this decision. We don’t need Bible Rant’s and Quotes – We don’t need statements that basically say “Christians are deluded”. WHAT we do have is a man with left wing Radical Marxist/Leninist Mentors, Friends, and well placed openly Communist advisors to the first President who is being funded, and takes his marching orders from – George Soros. The goal of this Administration is the destruction of our way of life. The question then is – how much longer until the sheep wake up and get pissed – if ever.

  • MikJos

    Incorrect “john”. A religion does not have to have any, not ANY “god”. There are plenty of secular religions with dogmas and creeds, services and ceremonies, and a whole book full of philosophy in which they accord a superior authority to, a governing authority which we people should aspire to. Secular religons include Confucianism, Jainism, ancient dead religions like Platonism (which was an empirical logic based religion) and in modern times we have Communism, Humanism and these just happen to be two “denominations” of the religion of atheism. And even atheism has its “god”, it being an impersonal thing called “Nature”. Atheists have their beliefs that are based on nothing but belief and, like a devout Christian, they stick to their belief never questioing it. Yep… atheism is absolutely a religion.

  • Mary Kilbride

    Thank you Lina! VERY WELL SAID!

  • MikJos

    First of all, Mare didn’t say that, “jose”. Those are YOUR words. Secondly, I challenge you to prove your point that more blood has been spilled in the name of religion than any other reason! I’m an historian and as I look over the broad sweep of history I see people being slaughtered by tyrants hell bent on conquest that has NOTHING to do with their religion. Even the Crusades and the Muslim invasions of Europe centuries before the Crusades were tyrants trying to extend their territories. But the worst slaughter of human life in the history of the world was WWII and the religion there was an atheist denomination called communism. Not counting the dead in WWII, Mao in CHina and Stalin in Russia are guity of killing well over 100 MILLION people! But I’m making my own point. It wasn’t “atheism” per se, but two sicko tyrants. DOn’t forget to throw junior in there too. Hitler is no. 3 on the list. Tyrants kill people, not religion.

  • MikJos

    Well said Steve

  • TAJ

    GOD DOES NOT HATE ANYONE, and if Christians got out of the military we wouldn’t have anyone to defend what freedom we do have, I have a son in the military and is a Christian so how dare you say they should be out. I believe everyone has a right to Religion, I hope you are saved

  • Murv Fisher

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances…..1st Amendment from our U.S. Constitution’s Bill of Rights.

  • Levi Cooper

    It doesn’t matter what our history is, he’s still violating the right of freedom of religion. Anyone else find it interesting that a mosque was built near ground zero, and Christianity is banned from the military? If he doesn’t (assuming he hasn’t) ban Islam as well, it’s time to question our leadership. Never mind, I question our leadership already.

  • Levi Cooper

    you are completly right.

  • Levi Cooper

    its the blind people like you that vote for these guys that help bring this country down.

  • Levi Cooper

    Harry, Lance is an poor example of a Christian yes, but the meaning of being a Christian is that Jesus died on the cross and rose 3 days later. He may be a Christian by definition, just not a good one.

  • roger

    well i hate to tell you this, but this country WAS founded as a CHRISTIAN nation. just because most CHRISTIANS are tolerant of other religions doesnt give them the right to try and change that…. come here and pray as you want to, but DO NOT try to make this country anything other than what it was designed to be.

  • http://facebook. t

    What does your scripture have to do with the man being anti black??

  • http://facebook. t

    Our country was built by very religious men and women. A lot of there writings were based upon there faith and religious beliefs.Saying our country was founded on there religious beliefs being bullshit, is the bullshit here.

  • John Eburue

    As Christians we can only pray for him.St. Paul tried, Obama can never be an exception. the gates of hell shall never prevail against the Church of God. By the time Obama will down tools, he Must surelly encounter Ghrist.

  • Lila

    This country was founded on Christian beliefs. You need to really read your history if you believe otherwise.

  • Lila

    The Bible does not say that.

  • bobbyboo

    You are a complete dupe. God hates America and President Obama?….
    “For God so loved the WORLD that He gave His only begotten son, so that whosever believith in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

    You have been duped by the Anti-Christian Westboro Baptist hate machine, whose believers are Sodomites.

  • wes

    But how do you REALLY feel about him KourtneY?

  • You’re all rednecks

    Rednecks, racists, and bigots oh my!
    Ya’ll are probably a huge group of ignorant douche bags who couldn’t vote their way out of a black hole because you couldn’t even do the proper research too see what you really wanted.
    Instead of insulting someone who is so much more accomplished than you’ll ever be, how’a ’bout ya’ll start actually fucking voting.
    Maybe that whole NRA lobby thing or that whole kids being raped and murdered for money in Africa thing… or you know, the rest of the fucking world.
    You’re all cowards, apparently and I’m a disappointed American if I were to honestly say that anyone here commenting is living in this wonderful nation that you have all seemed too ruin.

  • its me

    Henry, if you were in the military the commander and chief just gave orders for you to be arrested and court martialed. Way to go hero.

  • douglas

    Some people well believe any damn thing they read on the Internet. Gezzz. you Rep. are pitiful!

  • Lyn

    The actual reason there was a separation of Church and state wasn’t to protect the state from the Church, but to protect the Church from the state. It really saddens me how people twist the truth. Our founding forefathers were Christian men worshiping Jehova God. Did you bump your head??

  • Anonymous

    you are all over it. I saw this kind of stuff coming cause of the way things started out. America is being brought down from the inside. Leaving God out is like running thru traffic and expecting not to get hit. life without Jesus is meaningless, hopeless and doom.

  • Doug Indeap

    True story, Steve? Pray tell, what part is true?

    Obama Administration Criminalizes Christianity in the Military? Any soldier who professes Christianity can now be court-martialed and may face imprisonment and a dishonorable discharge from the military?

    These statements are false. The military has merely confirmed that it will enforce the long-standing rules against proselytizing. You can readily look it up and find the truth–as long as you steer clear of the right-wing blogosphere.

  • good grief

    You come across as a small, opinionated douche bag. I’m guessing that even if you got what you wanted you’d still be an intolerable loud mouth self righteous dork… I’ve read all the posts and you sound like a dick…fuck off , I pity anyone who is unfortunate enough to have to deal with you without being able to punch you in your face. I’d bitch slap your ass then tape your mouth shut..just kiddn…sorta

  • http://Facebook Gail

    Jose Sellman Are you in the Military right now. If not then you have no right to critize and say someone is using Bullshit. But just keep listen and watching CBS NBC MSNBC ABC and all their lies. They are just bowing and kissing Barry’s ass. It seems that F0ox is the only network who is not scared of the Jerk Barry.
    So Barry saying Court Martial, Dishonorable discharge is not punshmint for being a Christian???Yes they are trying to take religion out out of the Military if they Do This to our Veterans

  • http://facebook linda evans

    surley this is not true.i thought we live in a free country.but more an more it seems we don’t.i am going to call the president tomorrow.oh I won’t get to talk to him.but I will be able to tell some.this just can’t be true. I fell we are not safe any more.what kind of mess are leaving our children,grandchildren.what will happen to the eldery.

  • Brett Andrews

    The reason for the separation of church and state is based on a letter written by Thomas Jefferson the the House of Representatives that stated that the State is not to interfere with the church. Somehow that got flipped around at some point.

  • Nikki

    This is for all religions, get with the program.

  • George

    Michael- We do, our oath doesn’t say anything about protecting the government.

  • George

    Show me the evidence that there is no God.

  • George

    Henry, when and where did this occur. I spent 22 plus in the military and I was never forced to attend any service.

  • Nardo Ranking

    Shouldn’t you Christians be happy that the prez is actually separating your Jesus/God from an evil institution like the military? An institution that’s major purpose is to kill. In a nutshell, should killers profess to be Christians unless they have a firm indoctrination that their God tasked them to kill others. Very fanatical and fundamentalist.

  • Loretta

    5:6 Let nobody deceive you with empty words, for because of these things God’s wrath comes on the sons of disobedience. 9 5:7 Therefore do not be partakers with them, 10 5:8 for you were at one time darkness, but now you are 11 light in the Lord. Walk as children of the light – 5:9 for the fruit of the light 12 consists in 13 all goodness, righteousness, and truth – 5:10 trying to learn 14 what is pleasing to the Lord. 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but rather 15 expose them. 16 5:12 For the things they do 17 in secret are shameful even to mention. 5:13 But all things being exposed by the light are made evident. 5:14 For everything made evident is light, and for this reason it says:

  • loretta

    Eph: 5:6 Let nobody deceive you with empty words, for because of these things God’s wrath comes on the sons of disobedience. 9 5:7 Therefore do not be partakers with them, 10 5:8 for you were at one time darkness, but now you are 11 light in the Lord. Walk as children of the light – 5:9 for the fruit of the light 12 consists in 13 all goodness, righteousness, and truth – 5:10 trying to learn 14 what is pleasing to the Lord. 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but rather 15 expose them. 16 5:12 For the things they do 17 in secret are shameful even to mention. 5:13 But all things being exposed by the light are made evident. 5:14 For everything made evident is light, and for this reason it says:

  • Umar All

    it is so painful, shameful and disgraceful that another Black man is been used to fulfilling the prophecy of end time , When he ( Obama ) elected Black Christians all over the world are happy but i knew he was a scapegoat . Any way his two girls are lesbian and he is a homosexual.

  • Ted

    It would be all but impossible to ban Christianity in the U.S. Military as large military contractors such as Black Water/XE/Academi act essentially as Fundamentalist Christian Terrorist Organizations.

    Such military contractors (along with Banks, Energy Corps., et al) that largely control the U.S. Govt. intentionally create, fuel, arm, and fund Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorism around the world. These military contractors are just creating a problem so they can have us tax payers pay them to pretend to try to keep it in check.

    Sadly, such entities not only do not care how many fine soldiers, civilians, or children that are killed in the process, but the more people they execute, the more terrorism and unrest they breed, the more money these military contractors make. Criminal genius….

    Any act to “take Christianity” out of the U.S. military (while it would involve upholding the Constitution), I believe instead would act as an incentive to most Military Personnel to fight this “Christian Crusade” against the Islamic terrorism that these military contractors have largely created that much easier and profitable for them…..

  • Nic

    Anyone who has read and believes the Gospel of Matthew knows that this was bound to happen sooner or later. This very well may be the beginning of something bigger.

  • john walkr

    the situation is beyond making unnecessary arguments. those who need a change need to pray those who do not need a change can play about until they are shocked beyond measure.

  • r

    ahhhh no we are not lol

  • glenda

    Do you guys really believe this? OMG, grow up. They are only telling you about this on a secret crazy webside but no one else in the world would bring it up. Come on. You guys just want to believe BS.

  • Buford

    It would be FUNNY to see some drunk red-neck put one in Obummers bum.

  • Zwerver

    Just like Assad in Syriah……..

  • Suzanne

    Kevin;
    Hopefully, there are more that understand Obama,s heritage of not fully Black african Continant. previously a land given to Noahs grandson ,son of Ham one of the three son’s of Noah. His name was Canaan Grandson of Noah. read Genisis Writen given to us by God Father of all creation. Holy Bible From the accepted KJV By The UK.

  • Shannon

    This is absolutely ridiculous. What happened to religious freedom? I may not be any form of christian, but i dont feel its right for them to do that to anyone of ANY faith whatsoever.

  • Rae

    If Obama is going to prohibit any form of action regarding “Christianity”, then he better prohibit ALL forms of RELIGIOUS activity. Muslim, Hindu, Buddhism, Jewish, Atheist, Wiccan, Celtic, Witchcraft, Pagan, Taoism, Native American rituals, and whatever else people say is a form of religion. Singling one out is against our rights. So, Obama… watch out.

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  • Zach

    Please, everyone try and do your own research before getting over emotional about sensationalist headlines. “Criminalize Christianity in the military” is far from anything that was released in the actual statement. ‘Proselytizing,’ which is what they are talking about making an offense in the bill, is trying to convert someone while in the military. This includes military personnel who may use their rank or personnel to preach to others. …And please don’t make this into another ‘Christianity is under attack’ cause. This is about all faiths. I’m not arguing whether the proposal is for the right or not, I’m simply suggesting we try to go beyond what appears on the surface.

    TL:DR – This article is bullshit

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  • Maxwell Atkins

    From what I know about Christians, they are going to view this as an assault on the freedom of religion. Even I thought that was the case when I read the headline “Obama Administration Looks to CRIMINALIZE Christianity.” But they’re not criminalizing the religion, they’re just criminalizing the PROSELYTIZING of religion (which actually SUPPORTS the freedom of religion).

    They’re not saying it’s illegal to be christian in the military. They’re saying that it’s illegal for a christian to try and shove their religion down other people’s throats. This act doesn’t “criminalize” a person’s right to christianity in any way, shape, or form. It just “legalizes” a person’s right to NOT be christian if they should so choose.

    Now, I know it can be very difficult for Christians to avoid shoving their religion in places where it isn’t wanted. But the rest of us manage just fine. All this is asking soldiers to do is be reasonable, mature adults and respect one another’s personal beliefs.

  • Maxwell Atkins

    Please define Proselytization. This IS freedom of religion.

  • Maxwell Atkins

    Jesus man. Would you read the article before commenting? Granted, the title IS misleading, but the article more than clears it up. They’re not banning any religion. They’re not telling christians that they can’t be christians. They’re not even banning two christians from discussing christianity. They’re simply saying that you can’t force it down the throats of people who don’t want it. Not only that, it’s also saying that OTHER religions are also banned from trying to convert YOU.

  • Maxwell Atkins

    Well, that’s just a risk he’s gonna have to take, isn’t it?

  • Guest

    I don’t see any of that is the Obama Administration’s statement.

  • Maxwell Atkins

    From what I can tell, the Obama Administration isn’t guilty of any of that. Why don’t you look up the word “proselytization” before you go all gung-ho.

  • Christopher Thompson

    It has been Illegal to proselytize for over 40 years, and it applys to all religions.It doesn’t keep you from practicing your religion It simply means you can’t use the military as a means of converting people to your religion.

  • plunderpower

    June 6th, 1944, GEN Eisenhower told those heading out on D-Day: “The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you… Good Luck! And let us all beseech the blessings of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking.” Today we have Mikey Weinstein advising the DOD to adopt his definitions and punishments, as the military punishes soldiers for reading books, putting bumper stickers on their own vehicles, and saying the name of God. There are currently enough lawsuits being filed over the failure of the DoD to protect the rights of the citizens in the free exercise thereof;…First Amendment. When Eisenhower became President, he had the respect he’d earned. I believe GEN Eisenhower and LTG Jerry Boykin had this in common: “It’s a matter of what do they mean by “proselytizing.” …I think they’ve got their definitions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains, I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be able to exercise his faith.” Think what you will, but the truth will come out as it always does. Are you even aware that military troops are calling in to talk radio and sharing what is going on where they are stationed? They are saying that what you are being told is definitely not what is actually happening to them. GEN Eisenhower, if alive today, would never permit this politically correct garbage that sends good people to Leavenworth to become political prisoners. Oh, wait, he’d be on the Homeland Security list of terrorists wouldn’t he?

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