FEMA Camps: City to Exile the Homeless; It’s not a Conspiracy Theory Anymore

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Under the radar from the prying eyes of the public, South Carolina made it legal to get rid of their homeless problem. The people were given a choice, FEMA Camps or jail. The irony of it all was this happened right at the 50th Anniversary of Civil Liberties in August. The bad part is different cities from Boston to New York are shipping off their homeless, and no one cares. Is this coming to a town near you?

In August the city of Colombia, South Carolina, had a problem. A festival honoring the 50th Anniversary of the Civil Rights Movement was coming to town.  They couldn’t be seen with all the homeless when guests arrived from all parts of the United States. So the city council held a vote and made homelessness a crime.

he Columbia City Council unanimously approved the plan, creating special police patrols that would enforce “quality of life” laws involving loitering, public urination and other crimes not necessarily restricted to the homeless population. Those officers would then offer the homeless a choice: Go to jail for their homelessness or be shuffled to a 240-bed, 24-hour shelter on the outskirts of town, which they wouldn’t be allowed to easily leave.

That second option isn’t jail, mind you, because the homeless are being confined with the help of a local charitable organization. It’s charitable incarceration, you see. The homeless can leave, but they need to set up an appointment and be shuttled by a van.”~Microsoft Media Net Money

Despite some news from the Main Stream Media, and Glenn Beck, it looks like the city went out of their way to begin staffing the 240 bed, 24 hour, razor wire topped FEMA camp that was supposed to be used in case of a disaster according to FEMA. Remember, these areas do not exist according to the news media. However the FEMA site has the plans and the implementations of them. FEMA has even built them for cities such as Galeston, Houston, New York, Boston, New Orleans, and even Colombia.  Strange for areas that don’t exist.

South Carolina went through with the plans and they even caught the attention of the ACLU. In order for the homeless to “qualify” for the “temporary shelter” they would have to be one of the first 240 homeless to apply and wouldn’t be able to leave except by shuttle.  They even went out of their way to remove some of the benches around the town so the homeless didn’t get comfortable and a hot line to call if you spotted homeless people for the residents.

But this is not the only area making it a crime for being homeless. It turns out that since 2011, the city of Boston is moving its homeless out of the city into what they call HOME Base near Salem away from the city. People in Southern California were getting concerned from homeless disappearing off the streets.

Most of the homeless in places like Sacramento are taken and driven out of town in tent cities of their own. They have made it a crime to be homeless and round them up and move them there. They are guarded and people have hotlines to call if they spot a homeless person. They ship them out and place them in these camps. They are not permitted to leave and they are not permitted to wander the streets of the bigger cities without a permit. If that is not a determent camp, I don’t know what is.

They are moving to make it a crime to be homeless in Miami as well. Where are they putting the people from these “round ups”?

The city of Columbia was quick to recant their law at the end of September, but there are several other cities and states that still have not. There are several individuals that have warned over the years to people that this would happen. If we do not find humanity in our hearts when does the the madness stop.

This is almost like the 1940′s rounding up of the undesirables happening right before our very eyes. The only thing different is that this is the United States and not Germany.

Now we have the the cutting of EBT and Food Banks by $5 Billion,   Unemployment  continuing to sky rocket, and over 3.5 million homeless with the numbers growing daily. We have 18.5 million vacation homes and homes in Detroit being sold for a dollar, but we can’t find places to house people other then FEMA camps? I think we all know what happens from here if we continue to let it.

When the people of bigger cities wake up to find that all the homeless have disappeared over night, you actually know where they are. The question is, are you next?

 

 

  • Chuck Montgomery

    Anderson SC National Guard getting ready. New fences and guardrails

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frances-Chute-Quinn/100002220220146 Frances Chute Quinn

    horrible, a lot of those homeless are veterans. we should be building veterans shelter homes for them. first the homeless and then who is next?

  • Kim Gohn

    that’s what those guillotines are for then. seen a story about our government ordered 30,000 of them, claim half is in georgia the other half in montana.

  • Sage Parsely

    Gee where are all the Marty Sheens? Where’s the libs that claim to be the only ones that have a heart?
    Well if America wasn’t outraged and horrified over Waco, I guess there’s not gonna be anybody outraged over this either. Just like Nazi Germany all over again nobody cared.

  • Tyler Demski

    the guillotine story from June was found out to be a hoax. No such authorization, from Congress was ever granted.

  • R.Cole

    Well now it’s a crime to be poor in this country.

  • Glenda Horner

    another hilter on the move

  • Glenda Horner

    go to alex jones death camps and also called the new world order

  • Chris Paganelli

    It has been a long time since Obama has needed congressional approval for anything………..The newly appointed god-king Barry rules by executive order, not law.

  • RGP

    I do hope this story is wrong otherwise God help us.

  • Cliff E.

    We should all be scared… very scared, this is how Hitler Started in NAZI Germany back in the 1930′s

  • OneNotSilent

    First, they came for the communist, but I was not a communist, so I did not speak out.
    Then they came for the socialist and the unions, but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
    Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, and so I did nothing.
    When they came for me, there was no one left to speak out.
    -Recited the first time on returning to Dachau after liberation.
    -November 1945 German Pastor Martin Niemöller.
    -Arrested because of his outspoken sermons in 1937
    -Sent to Sachenhausen and Dachau concentration camp 1937-1945
    The above is from our collective history I pray we must stop this and not let it also be our future !
    All it takes for evil to triumph is for the good to be silent !!!!!

  • BARBARA BROUSSARD

    Omg! When we start dismissing the fact that people are being locked up in camps, yes CAMPS, then we are looking at some serious flaws in the way the government is operating.

  • John La Frieda

    OMG!!!!

  • R.H.P.jr.

    Obama has gone around congress so many times they may as well not exist.. The King is taking over.

  • RGP

    Fact is herding people out of town because they’re down on their luck is disgustingly immoral. Any of us could just as easily be one of them and a lot of once successful people are now literally a paycheck or two away from being in the same position.

  • Debbie Reed

    This is something I do NOT understand but then again it’s ALL about the dollar. We had a STATE PRISON right in the middle of down town Columbia,S.C.I tried to get them to allow the homeless to be housed in it before they tore it down building NEW apartments. NO, they couldn’t do this b/c the homeless wouldn’t put money into the GREEDY people’s wallets. What the HELL is going on here?? Have you NEVER heard of “It takes a village to raise a child? These people may not be as fortunate as most of us are. These people most likely was picked on as a child or in high school or even by teachers they could have been labeled. This actually starts in K5 or 1st grade depriving that person of an education or life. I KNOW this b/c I subbed school for over 16 yrs and have seen it with my own eye’s as a matter of a fact President Bill Clinton while visiting in Columbia,S.C. several years back had a body guard/Cia…something… leave the plane where they were about to enter and take my sign from me taking it on the plane with him. It read STOP DEPRIVING OUR KIDS OF AN EDUCATION, I was also on the front page holding my sign of the State News paper. You should think again when kicking someone while he’s already done and out it’s called ( Karma)…BAD NEWS…What goes around comes around and your turn WILL come! SHAME<SHAME<SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! These people may not have cause themselves to be this way it may have been someone or something in their life that caused them to take a fall. Take my WONDERFUL Son-In-Law, Jamie, was a terrible kids in school but I didn't nor did my Daughter give up on him like the Airport High School teachers did, they told Jamie he'd never amount to anything and always putting Jamie and his brothers down all b/c his Mom had 5 boys to raise and was poor. WELL< JAMIE is actually a millionaire in Aiken,S.C. See what happens when you put forth the effort to try to help someone in time of need? It makes me sick to hear things like this. People will break their necks to send money over sea's when we have people right here in the USA that needs food,clothes,shelter and we put them in what i call a concentration camp, this was the plan all along don't you get it people? WAKE UP YOUR TURN WILL COME SOON ENOUGH! This is so very sad but NOT as sad as i feel for the people that just do not care! Legalize Marijuana and put it towards the USA's debts! NO where in history will you find pot has EVER HARMED ANYONE AND IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THAT ALCOHOL IS FAR WORSE THAN ANY STREET DRUG INCLUDING HEROIN…YES, IF YOU DO DRINK YOUR PROBLEMS ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN THE PEOPLE THAT DO SMOKE POT! Fema, do you really believe this about the poor/homeless and since they did cut food stamps by 5 million bucks I PRAY you think about the poor evey time you try to enjoy a meal I hope you gag on it.Everytime you think of your own kids think of this…..That could be my child out there. You had better fall to your knee's and pray God doesn't judge you the way you have just judged the poor and homeless. Oh, by the way since i hear many peeps talking and laughing about the programs being cut do be surprised @ the crime rate increases when they are breaking in to steal your food and take your life then the rest of your family can do what you didn't..show some love,show some compassion! What WOULD JESUS DO?

  • Douglas Morris

    Beck and others have done reports on “obamavilles” dozens if not hundreds in every major city
    living under the bridges, camping in green zones, living in vacant buildings and squatting in houses lost thru bankruptcy, we’re living in Carters America, FDRs America, A flailing America in trouble like never before..I don’t believe we’ve ever had all this and the loss of respect from other countries…

  • Heaven Northrop

    There is an Urban Camping Ban in Denver Colorado that essentially makes it illegal to be homeless.

  • RGP

    The flaws you reference were considered “efficiency” by the Nazis.

  • Douglas Morris

    some are Vets, some are migrants, many are Mentally Ill or alcholoics or drug addicts..we need to look at our mental health laws in this country, bring back the MHMR Hospitals and take care of our truly sick, not just throw them on the streets with a months supply of pills and a blanket..
    havnt had this big an issue since Carter..

  • reddevil

    over my dead body…..

  • bdgshv

    This is NAZI GERMANY, HITLER and the JEWS all over again right here in the USSAK!

  • MVTHEW

    Hey, if you aren’t homeless, you haven’t got anything to fear… right?… Right? …Guys?

  • Sassysher

    WTH is going on here!! We Americans don’t live like this!! This is so Nazi like :( Come on everyone wake up NOW!!!

  • silentdogood

    all the homeless should shuttle over to washington CD. a demonstration of obomas failure as a human

  • PPQGrrl

    Help me understand why this is such a bad thing? Have they been locked up to starve, with no medical care or shelter? Yes, many of them are vets, or mentally ill, and some are just down on their luck. Is leaving them on the streets to starve or be beaten up better? I see homeless people every day, begging for money, dressed in rags, sleeping in doorways. How is that better?

  • Singer sandy

    Here’s the scary part,,,WHO WOULD NOTICE THE HOMELESS GONE..? To kill them off would be something our gov are capable of look at Hillary. ,,

  • Arcangelo ‘Cisco’ Cocco

    Is this what we have come to???

  • Clydette Johnson

    Something needs to be done for these people. They have no money and no homes, so how do they get essentials and eat?? Which raises the next problem of stealing and burglary…..this is a viscous cycle. We should not have people sleeping in parks and on streets, it’s dangerous for them AND for us. These people need to apply for help and get themselves together….this is America and people should not be living in these conditions. Maybe if we used the funds that we spend on illegals, we could help the people who DESERVE the help….and ship the damn illegals back to where they came from. Yeah we all want to be Americans and get all the “great” (lol) benefits but guess what?? You have to EARN those benefits…and coming here across the border to have your baby does NOT mean you have earned the right to be an American…..

  • nansper

    There are a lot of military bases closing. They have classrooms, housing for hundreds of people, they could learn new skills, there’s medical facilities if needed. Why can’t these be utilized for homeless people to get back on their feet. And if they are old or handicapped and unable to work, they have a safe place to live. They could be bought out privately with the government having nothing to do with it. Somebody tell me how this can be worked and managed. It has to be better putting them in interment camps. You or me our family members could be next. What will stop this from becoming Germany is standing up and helping those less fortunate.

  • anon

    and yet, so many people are losing their jobs and not making as much as they were years ago. Wonder why they are destroying the middle class?

  • Prosper

    Do you care Sage? Then let’s get some people behind you and find out if there is a way to work my suggestion up top. If everyone who signs into this starts brainstorming how we can do this thing to help those in need and not just say what should be done but how it can be done.

  • nansper

    And Obama wants to build a civilian army. In Germany they were called Brown Shirts.

  • Carey Feazel

    All this makes perfect sense….What happens when the dollar collapes, how many of us will be homeless then? What happens when the SSI payments stop and or inflation becomes hyperinflation. Now I am not looking forward to ending up there, but I can see where having these camps would help keep total society breakdown at bay… In fact I would go so far as to say that not to provide some provisions like this in the hard times about to come is unthinkable and inhuman. What, it has been three generations since there has been any real suffering here in the USA. I don’t think there is any one left that really remembers what it is like to really suffer. I don’t mean go through hard times, I am talking suffering, million’s in each and every state…..If I were most of you I would be praying they do have these Fema Camps……

  • liberalssuck

    and obozo is making more and more every day!!

  • RGP

    No free will for those who are in the camp. Did you read the article? The options are either jail or go to the camp. Either way you’re locked up. Right now it might be just homeless people. Next time it might be you or anyone else they consider undesirable.

  • RGP

    The camps would turn into a roach motel for people just like Hitler’s did.

  • Cliff E.

    Well they need to be housed and fed and the fema camps are not being used for that…. think of the starving unfortunates, this is our benevolent government taking care of the masses. and its that easy how they will sell it ….. remember Hitler was warmly welcomed by the world as the “Saviour” of Germany

  • Jabsdna

    Good ole Satan at work !!!

  • joe

    And the irony of it is those in power that are making it a crime to be poor are the same ones making more and more people poor through legislation.

  • Semper Fi

    its terrible to just round people up like this, offer them a shelter yes by all means a place they can get out of the cold and weather, get a meal and have a place to sleep, but I think if they offered most would go to a shelter, they should not be locked in, they should not be forced. Offer a shelter, have access to veteran representatives and social services etc. There are programs through the VA and Welfare offices to help homeless and I think many churches etc would help out

  • RGP

    Special police patrols for this. No mention of a charge, no mention of a trial, no due process. The police get to offer the choice of jail or the good old gulag. The police can literally pick anyone off the street if this is the case, say they’re homeless, and literally lock them up, either behind bars or behind razor wire.

  • Jeffrey Guzman

    where do I go to find these 1 dollar homes in Detroit ?

  • Semper Fi

    Totally agree, we need to focus on taking care of our own first. Illegals should be getting nothing- this would free those benefits for the Americans that are in dire need. Like you said them sleeping on the streets is dangerous for them and us. The floods in Co. at the beginning of Sept saw deaths of homeless as they were camped by the stream coming out of the mountains for fresh water/fish etc It flooded fast and the water currents took out roads bridges etc that were away from the stream- those people didn’t have a chance against it, but they were there because they didn’t have anywhere else to go. We need shelters and they need access to The VA & welfare programs set up to help homeless. These people need some options and a way out of their situation. I’m sure a majority will need medical care. Everything that they need is being given for free to illegals- maybe they need to round the illegals up and put them in the FEMA camps and give the homeless their benefits

  • Thomas Parsons

    That was a hoax. The order for guillotines was a type that is used in a fighter jet ejection seat to cut cables. The thing is it only took about 2 mins. to find the truth.

  • the destroyer

    its about time are there no prisons are there no workhouses, sick of these beggars comin around ple o ple hep meeee ahahahah drop em off in vietnam or afghanistan

  • triangle whip

    Obama’s [SS]the DHS will more likely be earning all that tax money on this..

  • Kelly Gneiting

    God help us.

  • Kelly Gneiting

    In as much as you’ve done it unto the least of these, you’ve done it unto me.

  • Guy Pinestra

    I’ll bet $100 against a crusty dog turd that you were one of the ‘geniuses’ that voted for Obama. Any takers?

  • JCSmith

    Sounds like you have something there. But no barbed wire and with standards to live by. Not a haven to lounge around in. Shared work, gardens, goals, etc. Yes. sounds smart.

  • Tom Hicks

    Out sourcing of American job’s is really doing the US good isn’t it? I say SCREW THE WORLD bring job’s back to USA.

  • Sudburian For CHANGE

    First they drive the people to poverty through their corrupt systems, then they make it illegal? This is horrific! There are currently 11 states that have more people unemployed than employed… not looking to good for America right now :(

  • Robert Guilfoyle

    Keep trying to spread the lies, losers.

    This is just nonsense. You should be ashamed.

  • Capn

    Are you kidding?? Obama HAS already built his “Civilian” army! He has fully militarized the DHS, IRS, EPA, and several other federal agencies..They have full tactical gear, APCs, and several BILLION rounds of hollow point ammo..

    Meanwhile, he is decimating our military, relieving over a hundred high level officers in the past two-three years. Do the math, people, and OPEN YOUR EYES!!!

  • LucyBlue

    Michael Furchert quoted this in his message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TokviZSWzk.
    Well worth listening to!

  • Ron Edwards

    The goal of Obama, his administration, the United Nations, and the Islamic world is to destroy the middle class of America. America has the strongest and most populated number of people in that group more so than any other country around the world and is a threat to their religion. Radical Islamists has infiltrated all the Europe countries and the western world as we know it is in the making of changes to being under Islams rule. Do some research on the subject and you will see I am not some conspiracy theorist, nut job. Look at issues that has happened and is happening here in America, Syria, Britain, Australia, North Africa, Israel, etc.

    The link I pasted below is of a video that is about an hour long and is founded by an organization called The Clarion Project formed by activists who are Muslim. The founder is Dr. Zuhdi Jasser and is an activist who is trying to warn America (and the world) of what Radical Islam’s intentions are. Not all Muslims are radical so my intent is not to offend anyone but only to inform.

    http://www.clarionproject.org/videos/iranium-islamic-republics-race-obtain-nuclear-weapons

  • Lilie Mnuk

    lolololol… . “the Christian Church”…. lolololol just another beast. There are some good Christians, but not all Christians that call themselves that (I have yet to meet even one) are that. I would not put my faith in anything manmade! Find yourself and you will have saved your own soul!

  • Angermanagement

    Gotta feed the illegals and their anchors. Hell with Americans, heroes, disabled, and homeless. This country needs a entirely new group of rule makers, no more pay offs, no more kickbacks, no more lobbyist grease the hands of these immoral traitors.

  • Ron

    Ha, now that’s funny. More than likely true though.

  • LuLu

    MAYBE if they could leave these camps if and when they want that might be another story…but they simply just can’t leave. Barbed wire enclosed too! That is PRISON!! Nazi BS all over again only now it is HERE!

  • Brenda Lynise Collins

    You all do know we are all going to end up their in the FEMA CAMPS and that you CAN count on

  • Terry Houston

    Offering homeless a place to be is all fine and dandy, but that frickin fence doesn’t belong there. it needs to go where it would keep more people from coming in to this country.

  • muggie

    thinking that maybe if these “churches” were a little more concerned about helping their neighbors instead of building these huge glorious building, they could take on a project like you speak of.

  • Fabian Da Ace Sheppard

    all i can say is this makes me fuking sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ayla

    can I see cited facts please? where can I look this up for myself?

  • silah

    Right under your nose. It’s that thing you are typing on.

  • Eric Crevison

    its interesting that when people start being rounded up people finally say something where was all these people when they could see the homeless on the street i dont support what the gov is doing but i think as a mass everyone is scared now it could be them just as easy

  • Bev Mabry

    and cities in Colorado have made it illegal for anyone to panhandle for money too. Very sad – in such bad times we should be doing more to take care of unfortunate folks, not be punishing them more.

  • jason

    and your forgetting the number one principal in america.. MONEY.. if they cannot make a profit, no group of people will have anything to do with this project at all…

  • Byrum Blobshittle

    You, me and the rest of the ones who dare to challenge King Barry of the Divided States of Obamerica!

  • Robert Bickle

    It’s no wonder to reason then, why the housing and realty went to hell. A lot of folks became homeless because of all the greedy banks who enjoyed condemning folks rather than helping. Guess this is the ‘fear’ satan wants everyone to possess not realizing this is also a form of Satanic Ritual Abuse/Mind Control. ‘YOU” will do what the elite tells ‘YOU” to do, or else. Just like the HITLER DAYS. To much on this SRA/Mind Control on the Internet for anyone to constantly continue to be ignorant about what’s really going on behind the scenes, especially GOVERNMENT…GOOGLE: Hidden Evil: Bohemian Grove Power of Prophecy: Wicked Men of the Bohemian Grove (The), book. More on google and quite interesting read.

  • snorky neederecker

    I agree Lilie because the Bible speaks about false Christians so much…but the “Christian church” actually refers to the Body of Christ, the believers, who are the Bride of Christ, the real Christians, who truly follow Him. That is the “wheat” He will gather into His barn after the tares are burnt, (Matthew 13). If you don’t know any real Christians, bless your heart, I can sure show you a whole mess of them down here in Texas in Dallas at the Southern Baptist churches we would love to have you visit, friend. God bless you!

  • snorky neederecker

    It’s all over the news.. Obama has been firing all the top brass in the military, anyone Christian is earmarked for termination. Wake up, friend.

  • snorky neederecker

    …remember also those FEMA camps are outfitted with top notch extermination means… and millions of coffins.

  • snorky neederecker

    Explain the millions of coffins? Seen pictures.

  • ManTwo

    you stupid nut bag

  • ManTwo

    you guys are the biggest group of nut bags I have seen in a while. This is hillarious!

    Give me the address of just one of these FEMA camps where people are being held against their will.

    Jokers. This country has real, problems. Must you invent complete rubbish in order to distract yourselves from the real problems?

    I just cannot believe people this stupid even exist.

    You know, I’ve traveled to some far off corners of the world and seem some pretty screwed up stuff. But this country? Seriously? The main problems are the extremely dumb individuals who have absolutely no wits about them are somehow able to feed themselves and get attention.

    Its the idiocracy in action.

  • Justin Green

    reciting words form a book and calling it proof and absolute fact means nothing. The story of jesus is about as real as santa clause.

  • Thomas Parsons

    They are burial vaults and they belong to the company that produce them not the FEMA. It is also not millions but 500 thousand, an adiquit number concidering 2.5 millon people died in the US in 2010 for instance. Just good planing on the part of this company that produces them I would say. They sell them to everyone and they are not the only company that makes the product. This is just where they store their product. In mass causality situations the dead are put in mass graves or cremated. I was in Haiti just after the quake there and they put tens of thousands in mass graves. Click, click and 2 mins to find the truth. http://io9.com/5860519/are-coffins-being-stored-in-atlanta-for-a-high-casualty-event

  • ManTwo

    This is a hoax being perpetrated on you by conspiracy theorists.

    I’m an investigative journalist who has been to war. I’ve seen revolutions, and I’ve seen real suffering. I’ve also seen what some governments to to their own people. And I’ve seen some of the terrible things our government does, mostly to people in other countries.

    This lie that you people keep perpetuating, this thing you believe makes a mockery out of countries and situations where things of this nature actually ARE going on. Shame on you all for being such ignorant hypocrites.

    And just to call all you ignoramus, loudmouth dummies out. Let me challenge you to give me ONE location of a FEMA concentration camp. I will go there, and I will expose it and get it on national news the very next day. I will. I can do that.

    The reason why that is never going to happen is because it does not exist. You nut bags need to congregate in your special places, where other dummies go, so that you don’t get called out.

    Go ahead and keep believing this stuff, but it just makes you an idiot if you do.

  • snorky neederecker

    Justin… all you’ve done is demonstrate that you talk about things you never studied in your life. You have never studied the scriptures with any seriousness and you talk about a subject of which you are 100% completely ignorant. No offense. :)

  • snorky neederecker
  • Matt Mark

    again, no address and a fake photo from 15 years ago.

    I will say it again. If you believe this stupid conspiracy theory you are an actual retard.

  • Matt Mark

    The real story of what is going on in the Fema camps:

  • Matt Mark

    NAZI Germany started out with bogus conspiracy theories that a bunch of retards believed? That’s kind of…minimizing something pretty awful isn’t it??

    I thought it started when the extreme right preaching a master race, eugenics and a totalitarian state hell bent on invading all of it’s neighbors and exterminating anyone but pure blooded germans.

    But hey, maybe the bogus conspiracy theories came first. Who knows.

  • Matt Mark

    Except that it’s a completely bogus conspiracy theory that only retards believe.

  • Matt Mark

    coffins? What a load of shit. Why the fuck would they bury people if they were doing what you claim.

    Never mind you are a total idiot for believing any of this in the first place. The coffins thing is just about the dumbest crap I have heard from you morons yet.

  • Matt Mark

    Beck has also debunked the stupid FEMA camp myth.

    Basically if you believe any of the shit you just said you are an actual retard and one step away from skid row yourself if you don’t have any family that cares about you.

    See glen beck debunk the stupid shit you believe in

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23656/

  • Matt Mark

    There are no fucking fema camps you retard. Get a grip on reality

  • Matt Mark

    or you could just move to…say Mexico? Or Iran?

    Then we’d have one less retard living in this country wasting space.

  • Matt Mark

    How retarded are you?

  • Matt Mark

    The story is clearly wrong. Nobody legitimate nor intelligent believes this crap.

    There might be one shred of truth in this article, and that is homelessness is being criminalized. But that goes back to Reagan, it has zero to do with Obama so what the fuck are all these bozos talking about on here.

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23656/

  • Matt Mark

    You moron

  • snorky neederecker

    The fact that you have to call people names, who actually try to research this stuff, shows the weakness of your argument. That’s a big map, for you say “no address” – you didn’t check that out at all. The jury is still out for me, because I keep an open mind – but calling people ‘stupid’ shows you haven’t got much intelligence or wisdom yourself.

  • Matt Mark

    In your mind, and clearly on your hairdo and face.

    And also, he’s creating a bunch of bogus conspiracy theories to rile up all the sickos

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23656/

  • Matt Mark

    If you are such a dumb ass that you believe this crap, then you are a dumb ass. It’s not name calling, it’s true. You are an idiot if you believe this. Straight up.

    It would take 30 seconds for you to google and see that this is all complete bullshit.

  • WALK

    ~ For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don’t believe, no proof is possible. ~

  • Justin Green

    Really? Tell me something then. Why is it the story of jesus is similar to the story of Moses in one book of the new testament and in the other book completely ignores what the other book said? How about the three “wise men” or three kings that came and saw the baby jesus? Ever heard of the constellation Orion? The three stars on his belt are called the three kings. They ‘point’ to the north star known as Sirius. The three kings followed a star in the east, If you draw a ‘line’ between all 4 of them the best you can. They point to where the sun sets on December 24th. If even part of the story is a fabrication. Common sense states that it all is a fabrication.

    Say I know nothing? Maybe you know nothing.

  • live in sac

    well I live in sacramento ca and they are not rounding up homeless people matter of fact theres a place for homeless people to and take showers make calls get hair cuts clothes to help find a job they even have a vet come and tend to animals once a mo. I don’t know about other city’s but sac is not putting homeless in fema camps

  • Justin Green

    You’re saying middle earth doesn’t exist?! GANDALF BE DAMNED! DAMNED I TELL YOU!

    You know, you should apply your logic to other religions.

  • Matt Mark

    The problem is you need to read legitimate news sources. I would bet that over half of the stuff you read are total lies. I mean total and complete fabrications.

    Let’s take the gulf of Tonkin incident. At least there were ships in that area, and a civil war in Vietnam. So it’s at least probable…that it was an excuse. And we can hear the truth about that, the fog of war.

    But the stuff you are reading is like, actually not real. Like, no camps, fake pictures, no addresses. Just totally insane nonsense that crazy people believe. Already debunked. No fog, just complete and total lies.

    Stop reading and believing the crap on websites like this…it’s bad for your mental health.

    They’ll block me tomorrow, just watch. All my posts will be removed. Meanwhile you can go post your garbage, talking about FEMA camps on CNN, on Fox. They will not remove you for that. However, you will be made laughing stock.

    Get out of your weirdo bubble…

  • Matt Mark

    Oh and I don’t think Fox and CNN to be ‘legitimate’ news sources…well maybe more so Fox. But there are plenty of places to read and listen to. This is just such a right wing crackpot den that I don’t even want to suggest any actual good ones your head will probably explode.

    At least just make sure it is the most respectable right wing one you can find…ok? As a hint, anyone talking about Fema camps is not legit…

  • snorky neederecker

    If that is so, why do we see the real Bethlehem star with NASA software? Google it. Noah’s ark, too. Gold stamp of pharoh on the wheels of chariots found under the red sea… For these end days are like the Days of Noah; we will warn you, over and over………. and you will not listen. Universities use the Bible as a reference tool in archeology and other studies because of its historical accuracy, but you, in your ignorance, want to call it “myths”. *shrug* Go ahead, no skin off my nose.

  • snorky neederecker

    There’s plenty of evidence for that, too, but people as afraid as you are of God don’t even look. :)

  • snorky neederecker

    Your name-calling makes you look like a bigger dufus than all the rest, at least they keep open minds and contribute something to the conversation other than angry outbursts of a such a childish nature.

  • snorky neederecker

    If that’s true then post the article that proves it’s bullsh34. The fact is nobody said they “believe it” they’re just posting evidence. It’s research. You don’t know any more than anyone does, but you like calling names and being nasty. Your irritability and anger suggests mental issues. Get help, stop abusing others.

  • Matt Mark

    It’s not name calling. its fact. If you believe the FEMA camp myth, you are a complete idiot.

  • snorky neederecker

    By the way the last day of the retrograde motion of the Bethlehem Star is……………. December 25th. Google it. Youtube it. NASA software.. you can LOOK AT IT YOURSELF…. with your OWN eyes… if they aren’t too blinded with hate for God.

  • Matt Mark

    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23656/

    I do know. And if you weren’t so stubbornly retarded, you would know too. There is absolutely no evidence of FEMA camps. None.

    Believing shit like this makes you an idiot.

  • snorky neederecker

    Your history is completely flawed. Hitler was a leftist – a socialist – right down to socialist healthcare. Nice spin, genius.

  • Matt Mark

    A quote for you-

    “A very popular argument by the Right is say that the Nazis were Left wing, when in fact they were Rightwing in both Germany and the United States.”

    Google it.

    “Nazism, or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and state as well as other related far-right groups. Usually characterized as a form of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism, Nazism originally developed from the influences of pan-Germanism, the Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture in post-First World War Germany, which many Germans felt had been left humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles.”

    Google it.

    I can understand why a mentally handicapped person might see the words National Socialism and assume that meant it was left wing.

    I got news for you.

  • Matt Mark

    If you want to do one good thing for yourself, read this page, in its entirety.

    It’s a learned opinion, and it’s here to teach you about the words you have been mistakenly been using.

    I dare you. Learn something-

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

  • snorky neederecker

    “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system
    for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries,
    with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and
    property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all
    determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” –Adolf Hitler

    (Speech of May 1, 1927.)

    How about if YOU learn something for once, Matt? I’d say teaching in a major university, I’d be flunking you for ignoring disproving evidence.

  • snorky neederecker

    “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system
    for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries,
    with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and
    property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all
    determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” –Adolf Hitler

    (Speech of May 1, 1927)

    TRY going to the SOURCE instead of letting all the idiots on GOOGLE “educate” you.

  • Matt Mark

    Again, you are mistaken, mixed up and did not understand his quote. You said he was on the left. he most certainly was not.

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

    If you want to use the system, it’s better you understand the words you are using.

  • snorky neederecker

    Again, when you insult, you show your weakness of character and lack of intelligence or compassion for others. Typically atheist or agnostics do this. It’s because they are missing any moral backbone.

  • snorky neederecker

    Your “political compass” is broken. I JUST SHOWED YOU ADOLF HITLER’S OWN WORDS. They sound EXACTLY like President Alinsky.

    10 to 1 you have never bothered to read:

    *The Congressional Record of the 49 Steps to Communism*
    *Yuri Bezmenov’s Testimonies*
    *Treason (the book)*
    *Saul Alinsky’s RULES FOR RADICALS* (the stuff Obama taught in the university)
    *THE MAKING OF THE WEATHERMEN* and the Story of Bill Ayers and His Wife

  • Matt Mark

    It’s not an insult, seriously. It’s just that only an ignorant bozo would try to say Hitler was on the left. It’s just downright false. The curveball you just sent, it does not prove nor disprove he was on the right or left.

    The fact is, there are no intelligent people claiming hitler was on the left. None.

    That is something a sheltered bozo with little education in these matters would say.

  • Matt Mark

    It’s not ‘my’ political compass. These things are not open to debate except in the most moronic of circumstances. Like this one.

    Explain to me why he imprisoned and killed communists, socialists and unions before he even killed the jews.

    Anyway, you believe in FEMA camps and that Hitler was on the left.

    You sound like a real piece of work, on both counts.

  • Matt Mark

    Interesting how the right wingers disingenuously claim Nazis were left wing socialists (National Socialism is something completely different, it’s actually not socialism at all, they had currency for instance), yet here we have another quote evidencing the fact they hated communists and socialists more than Jews.

    They also hated intellectuals and liberals.

    anyway, Nazis were right wing fascists, in league with other fascist nations, and against communism and socialsim, exemplified by their betrayal of Russia. It was a totalitarian, fascist state

    This famous quote by Niemöller is just another example of how you cannot, in all seriousness call a technically center-right president a commie, a socialist and a Nazi all at the same time.

    There are discussions to be had, there is a discourse about all the things we care about. But when we start making up absolute nonsense to justify our bigoted views, we are in real trouble.

  • Matt Mark

    That was rhetorical by the way. I don’t need an explanation of anything from you, I’ve got better places to get info than someone who is touting the most moronic of conspiracy theories.

    I mean, at least pick something plausible next time.

  • snorky neederecker

    a) I never said I “believe it” and that’s something that shows how bad your reading comprehension is, I merely showed evidence – which is more than you have done – your claims have ZERO evidence, you show nothing but bogus theories b) I know for a fact Hitler is leftist – your political compass (done by leftists) is WRONG. Lefitsm -is FASCISM- and you can’t evidently see any other perspective but your own. You saw Hitler’s words, and you don’t show one shred of evidence that “socialists and unions” were “killed” by Hilter. Try reading MEIN KAMPF and HIS OWN WORDS… I realize liberals like you never think you’re wrong, that’s what makes you a bad debater.. that and your lousy insulting… you can’t make a point without being rude. *ignore you* you’re another “useless eater” to the masters you appear to serve.

  • Matt Mark

    see my previous comment

  • snorky neederecker

    GOOD GRIEF YOU ARE SO CONFUSED.. you just posted the OPPOSITE of reality.. “NATIONAL SOCIALISM” is NOT right wing, this is exactly what the LEFTISTS sell…. go ahead, believe it, be an idiot for them. Obama is a socialist, right.. HE’S A DEMOCRAT – A LEFTIST – HULLO. Wake up, Charlie. Hitler had OBAMACARE.

  • snorky neederecker

    No, you swallowed the Koolaid.. and the fact that you have to call everyone idiots just shows you’re a goose-stepping idiot for the left. You believe every word they tell you, even when THE REAL LIFE EXAMPLE OF MR. OBAMA, A LEFTIST, A DEMOCRAT, A LIBERAL – WHO INSTITUTES OBAMACARE LIKE HITLER DID WITH NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE – is RIGHT in FRONT OF YOUR FACE…………….

  • Matt Mark

    It was a political party…and it was on the right.

    Believe what you want, it won’t garner you much respect except in scummy disenfranchised places like this website

  • snorky neederecker

    Or are you going to tell us now that Democrats are “right wing”? HAHAHA

  • Matt Mark

    That would not be entirely factual, so why would I do that.

    Years ago though, not sure if you know this or not brainiac, but they were. As they were the slave holding conservatives, and the Republicans were the liberals.

    See how political parties do that? It’s a stupid political party. Where they fall on the spectrum is defined by their actions.

    I’m one for knowledge and facts. You? Not so much.

  • Matt Mark

    Love the all caps. Makes it seem so much more…insane. LOL

  • Don Oberloh

    Maybe it’s not the literal words. maybe it’s a reminder of what our God expects of us.

  • Don Oberloh

    You know nothing! You are.., completely ignorant! no offense…LOL. Of this isn’t offensive you are a differently moraled person than I.

  • Fred

    Justin I’ve always believed that if you are right, and there is no God, then I have lost nothing in my belief, but if there is a God, you’ve lost everything with yours.

  • Troubleshooter

    Sounds like the new Organ and Tissue Harvest is underway. I’m sure that suitable enslavement functions can be found for those who are physically unsuited for Organ Donor status.

  • Don Oberloh

    When most University English Departments use anthologies with at least one inaccurate “story” does that automatically mean the rest are not applicable to the course?

    Justin…can you prove that your were born? How, a birth certificate, that you blindly believe is documentation, however is written by mistake-making humans? Your “parents” told you that you are their son…how do you truly know that? We all take things on faith.

  • snorky neederecker

    Leftists today have tried to rewrite all kinds of things.. even trying to paint Abe Lincoln and MLK as “Democrats” LOL! They were Republicans. You can keep trying to rewrite history, Matt, but it doesn’t change facts: Hitler DEFINED Leftism, along with his nationalist socialist policies. *This is
    basically the National Socialist German Workers Party Platform… It
    included measures that in effect would redistribute income and war
    profits, profit-sharing with large industries, nationalization of
    trusts, extensive development of old-age pension (just like FDRs Social
    Security Program), and free education.* Clearly this demonstrates Hitler
    was indeed a left winger and here is startling proof!

    You can keep CLAIMING all kinds of things with no evidence, Matt, it just makes you look as stupid as the “idiots” here who swallow all the crap about FEMA camps without doing any due diligence.

  • Matt Mark

    This is beyond boring. I am arguing with some bozo who things FEMA has death camps and that Hitler was on the left.

    Whatever….lol

  • snorky neederecker

    You haven’t presented ONE FACT. Not even one. You merely make claims and show biased websites with retroactive history-rewrites.

  • Don Oberloh

    Yes the fact are out there, on official congressional reports. You can view them by going to your own representative congressional record.

  • Troubleshooter

    There is no documentation now that the Executive Orders which established them and funded them have been either removed from the Congressional Record or Redacted. They absolutely were issued, beginning about 10 years ago, with a massive surge in the organizational descriptions and the transfer of authority over them to DHS/FEMA about 9 years ago. Somewhere in the middle of Oscumbo’s first term, too many people were posting links and screen shots of the Orders themselves, and it started making your paymasters nervous. You can deny it till hell freezes over, but that doesn’t make what you say true. Let’s see you provide some proof that they DO NOT exist, asshole, or will your Troll money get cut if you try?

  • Don Oberloh

    If someone killed hitler in 1939 would he be a hero or a terrorist/ assassin?

  • John Patriot

    The Whitehouse.

  • Matt Mark

    Well, hero to us. But I’m not sure what the world would have thought of it then as we would not have known the future.

  • Matt Mark

    So you believe that FEMA death camps exist. You sound smart.

  • Matt Mark

    Sure man, FEMA camps exist.

    Gotcha.

  • Brina Michelle Goins

    most of our homeless are Veterans so why are we not trying to help them instead of shutting them out. pisses me off

  • Matt Mark

    Fry’s Electronics.

  • Douglas Morris

    yes, Beck did report on FEMA Camps, and I didn’t say a thing about FEMA Camps, I said OBAMAVILLLES are set up around the country in the large cities, I have personally seen them when passing thru said large cities. Out of curiosity, I have walked thru 2 camps personally, Forgive me if I assume you’re probably young and a victim of our liaise faire education system that passes people “forward” when they’ve yet learned to read, I am truly sorry, and you’re forgiven for your ignorance. But I do have to ask, what exactly is it with you dope smoin, basement livin, chronic mastrubatin, pinheaded liberal types that drive you straight to the insults when you feel you can’t win an argument???

  • snorky neederecker

    Love the calling everyone morons and retards. Shows us how hateful you libtards really are.

  • Matt Mark

    You commented on this article and seemed to support it.

    Do you think this article is truthful or not.

    If you think it is based in fact, then you are a bozo. If you think it’s BS, my apologies to you for misdirecting those comments.

  • Matt Mark

    Everyone? No, just the bozos and retards who believe this story.

  • snorky neederecker

    Nobody I saw said they “believe it” – now you look like a moron yourself. Again. I notice you don’t learn too fast. Bad grades in school?

  • snorky neederecker
  • Matt Mark

    I said anyone who believes this story is a retard. You challenged me, and defended the article.

    Do you think FEMA has camps or not? Let’s hear it then.

  • snorky neederecker

    “As things stand today, the
    trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary,
    they are among the most important institutions of the nation’s economic
    life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political
    field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people
    whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the
    satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an
    education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance
    in the struggle for existence”.
    It could well be any Leftist speaker of the present time but it is in fact a small excerpt from chapter 12 of Mein Kampf,
    wherein Hitler goes to great lengths to stress the importance of
    unions. The association between unions and Leftism is of course
    historic and, as a Leftist, Hitler made great efforts to enlist unions
    as supporters of his party.

  • Matt Mark

    You defended this article we are both commenting on. I said it was total nonsense that only an idiot would believe.

    When you find the death camps, let me know.

  • Matt Mark

    we’ve been over this. It’s not my mind you need to change, it’s the facts.

  • snorky neederecker

    You’re hallucinating. I merely showed you a map of alleged FEMA camps. Your debate is in your head, just like you hallucinate that Hitler was “right wing” – nationalist does not political ideology make. You look like an idiot….

  • snorky neederecker

    I have no idea about FEMA camps. I merely showed you there’s a map, you asked for an address.

    Hitler is a modern day LEFTIST… and you can’t stand that. I can smell you’re an Obamadrone.

  • snorky neederecker

    Hitler was named “Man of the Year” in 1938 by Time Magazine. They noted Hitler’s anti-capitalistic economic policies:

    “Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co.
    on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed
    National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic
    structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to
    the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been
    confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been
    levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the
    increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be
    deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial
    orders in Germany originated last year with the Government.
    Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has
    taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized
    agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.”

    (Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)

  • Matt Mark

    LOL

    They don’t exist

    In regards to Hitler, calibrate your personal compass at will. I’m talking about the one smart people have generally agreed on.

    I’m going to watch Homeland now.

  • snorky neederecker

    Same thing is happening now in Amerika.. (not that you care)

  • Matt Mark

    I’d care if it was. But it’s not. Feel free to hide in your basement, or leave the country if you are so scared of the future.

  • Heath Barrett Bolam

    Chop the worthless pieces of shit up and feed them to the dogs! LAZY ASS SHITBAGS! Oh I’m not talking about the HOMELESS,,,I’m talking about the POLITICIANS!!

  • snorky neederecker

    You don’t read much, you don’t study, you don’t have degrees… you just spout your anger and when faced with facts, run for cover. It’s you that better hide in your house because you’re the first ones they’ll exterminate.

    He championed the rights of workers, regarded capitalist society as
    brutal and unjust, and sought a third way between communism and the free
    market. In this regard, he and his associates greatly admired the
    strong steps taken by President Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal to take
    large-scale economic decision-making out of private hands and put it
    into those of government planning agencies. His aim was to institute a
    brand of socialism that avoided the inefficiencies that plagued the
    Soviet variety, and many former communists found his program highly
    congenial. He deplored the selfish individualism he took to be endemic
    to modern Western society, and wanted to replace it with an ethic of
    self-sacrifice: “As Christ proclaimed ‘love one another’,” he said, “so
    our call — ‘people’s community,’ ‘public need before private greed,’
    ‘communally-minded social consciousness’ — rings out.! This call will
    echo throughout the world!”

    The reference to Christ notwithstanding, he was not personally a
    Christian, regarding the Catholicism he was baptized into as an
    irrational superstition. In fact he admired Islam more than
    Christianity, and he and his policies were highly respected by many of
    the Muslims of his day.

    (You really know nothing about Adolf Hitler)

  • Jeff

    Let’s be honest, houses that sell in Detroit for “$1″ already house plenty of homeless who scrap them out and tear them apart. That’s why they sell for so cheap. This is similar to what Detroit did pre Superbowl. Round them up and give the free food and shelter in the county jail.

  • snorky neederecker

    Definite hero. Many lives saved.

  • snorky neederecker

    Remember folks.. Matt is the kind that will PUT YOU in those FEMA CAMPS.. just like Hitler, A LEFTIST, A SOCIALIST, did….

    That’s why he doesn’t like history. Why he doesn’t give details.

    That’s why all he can do is show one website with media spin….and all he can do is call people “idiots, morons, bozos” but offers ZERO evidence himself.

    That’s why he can’t quote Mr. Hitler.

    That’s why he probably didn’t go to college.

  • Truth

    Matt, you remind me of someone that has not been on this Earth many years and the years that you have been here you spent smoking dope and playing games. I really don’t believe that you have ever had a real job or at least one you worked at for over a few months at most. But to be honest with you I don’t like you are your attitude so I do my best not to associate with your type. Good luck in hell and pray they have video games.

  • ManTwo

    I don’t know matt, but I have been around for a bit, and have seen a lot. And have worked hard, enough so that I’ve made myself very successful. I’d have to agree that anyone who believes the article we are commenting on is exceptionally stupid.

  • ManTwo

    No.

    he·ro

    1. a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

  • ManTwo

    I’ve got a PhD in Political Science from Brown. Needless to say, I am now an investor. Not a whole lot you can do with that degree besides get into politics. And I’m more interested in success. What I will say, is while the extent of which is casually discussed, there is no rational argument, among intellectuals at least, who would call Hitler a ‘leftist’. It would be a gross misrepresentation of the facts.

  • Paul M
  • Demsrdumb

    I’ve seen the Dachau Concentration Camp in person……bet the media then, in the 1930′s and ’40′s said they didn’t exist either…..

  • Dick Fitzwell

    “Than FEMA camps” THAN!!!!! Then refers time, than is for comparison. Why can’t people seem to keep this straight?!

  • UseSome CommonSense

    The very nature if christianity is false. dont fall for that garbage. find your own way and beliefs in life. There was never any such personage as jesus. Never existed, they made it up. Based on the egyptian god horus. Look it up. It’s the same exact story. Stop being led blindly by stories so preposterous they should be laughed at hysterically not taken seriously. Watch this and get a clue… http://youtu.be/OrHeg77LF4Y

  • DaveHolden

    What rounding up of “undesirables” in the 40′s? You mean rounding up those who stated they would wreck Germany? “Judea declares war on Germany!” That was 1933. Most of them communists.
    Funny how the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, many of them Christians, isn’t used. Pretty clear what agenda is being served by this selective emphasis/de-emphasis.

  • UseSome CommonSense

    This is the church’s canned cop out answer. It’s just as ridiculous as governments stealing our freedoms and telling us if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about. Justin, you’re right brother. Dont let these fantasy role players confuse you. They and the bible are all full of total shit. Any educated thinking person does not believe this crap any more. It’s hog wash. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! It’s not funny anymore, you are all flushing independent thought down the toilet. you are the ones spouting words out of a book written by a man to control and manipulate people. Why is it you are smart enough to realize when the homeless drunk on the corner asks for money for food that he is going to buy booze. Yet you keep accepting these ridiculous childrens fairy tales as fact because some guy in a funny outfit at a podium tells you its true. Never mind that he likes little boys and is taking your son camping this weekend. no one seems to mind that. GET A CLUE!!!!

  • UseSome CommonSense

    this is the most ignorant of all the answers. WE TAKE NOTHING ON FAITH!!!!! We are raised our whole lives not to take things on faith but to demand proof. In every area except religion. Why is it the thing involving your immortal soul you are willing to gamble with on such a ridiculous story with absolutely zero proof. none and in fact there is a ton of proof to refute it. Justin is right, it is an alagorical story completely plagarized from the egyptian god horus, both virgin birth both had the three kings come visit, yes orions belt both born dec 24th, both had 12 followers, these represent the constelations, both died and were resurected. this represents the sund transit into the winter solstice. it reasches its lowest point in the sky dec 21 then maintains that posistion in the sky till the 24 when it starts growing back towrads the summer solstice. this is the death and resuurection story truth. It is hilariousl you would put more stock in a rediculous fairy tale than in what is obviously the truth. Again educate yourself, and no the bible does not count as a valid souce of education. Wake up. DAMN MAN KINDS IGNORANCE NEVER FAILS TO AMAZE ME.

  • kelly_1

    I had rather live my life as if there is a God only to find out there is not one, than to live my life as if there is no God only to find out there is ! Faith in something you can’t see is strong ! God’s love is mighty and awaits you, all you have to do is accept it ! God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life —John 3:16 :D God bless you !

  • batmanroxus

    So if you are homeless, move to the country.

  • Ryann C.

    Judge not, that you be not judged. Let people have an opinion even if it doesn’t agree with yours. If he is to be judged let him be judged by who you claim to believe in. I am so sick and tired of people wanting to thrust religion down others throats and then disregarding said religion when it suits themselves.. I do not hate believers, nor do I hate non believers… That IS what is supposed to be so wonderful about this country… freedom of choices… and get back to the article… How our rights as PEOPLE are being taken away from us… no matter what you choose to believe or not believe in and WHAT we as people can do about it.. We need to UNITE as one…

  • Joshua Lakey Hinson

    And people wonder why I live the life I do being a street artist. Everyone leaves the street for the homeless and shuns the homeless when they get to close. People will ignore you simply for sitting on the sidewalk. Try saying hello to people while sitting on the sidewalk. They will ignore you and treat you as if you are invisible.

    I do this to be near them, to make you think, to allow me a public spot to create. I just got ticketed for the first time in ATX: https://www.facebook.com/notes/lakey/street-art-got-me-my-first-ticket/755543577806073

    We the people have made it clear we want pretty streets, we want ALL of our money, and we don’t want ANYONE to ask for it unless they are going to give us something the masses want.

  • Joshua Lakey Hinson

    The Christian church, that the Bible says should be known for their love, is just known for their judgment, their help with strings attatched, and the quality of cars in it’s parking lot.

    I don’t know how the churches in these cities allowed this to happen.

  • Jeanne M Knight

    tax the rich… feed & house the poor <3 :) easy…

  • Mark Schlager

    Anti flag?

  • Zeda

    It all happened for a reason Justin! Let me just say…if I am wrong, I am just wrong! If you are wrong, well, we will pray for your soul. God Bless You!

  • Mitch

    “Christian Conservative Constitutionalist” You DO realize nothing about the republican party is neither Christian nor conservative, right? Stop with the mindless drivel. You’re part of the problem with this country.

  • zorb

    You’re either all for welfare, or you’re not. homelessness is a crime, but they’re regenerating the wrong people. they need to target democrats who have fouled this country up so badthat the homeless population has increased.

  • clepto

    why do you think the government would announce the real purpose of those camps? because it would give people the opp to prepare…those aren’t for you and me….those are for the hundreds of thousands of murderous gang members that plague our cities….start using your brains people

  • pvtoldschool

    you,yourself,by your statements prove to me who’s telling the truth….non believers,disobedient to God’s word,created for the day of destruction….that day close..and besides your gonna die either way,,hope your ready…..

  • CL

    I really don’t think all are that coincident. Speaking for myself. I get tired of trying to find out which one are real and which ones are fake. I work my ass off and struggle like many others to just give money away for things like this. However, I admire his honesty. This does make it easier. I have no problem helping someone who’s willing to help themselves.

  • goorru

    The story was posted on November 3rd and they rescinded this decision on September 3rd. Reverse propaganda it seems to me, no homeless round up has begun, LOL.

  • CL

    No Ma’am! I’ll die protecting my freedom. I shalt not be enslaved.

  • goorru
  • snorky neederecker

    Most people in Christian apologetics know about Horus (of course).. what you don’t understand is the Book of Genesis or the Book of Enoch that explains how little stories like Horus come by way of the same folks who brought you the Giants and men of renown: Fallen Angels. You can even see the giant skeletons pre-flood, being found by archeologists all over the world. Your insults show your fear and you shouldn’t be afraid, friend. God loves you. Far from being blind, many of us are highly educated university people who have studied far more than you imagine… take a peek at the science behind this: God in a nutshell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtBz1roiQR8 And try not to be hating, Jesus died for you. Because He loves you and wants you to be free. The World will hate on Jesus and Christianity, that’s what He told you – one of 2,500 prophecies that are unfolding, only a few hundred left to the end of this world. The Story of Jesus imitated in other “religions” is repeated over and over and distorted to distract you, by The Enemy. Jesus came to remove man’s religions. God bless you.

  • Cheryl

    so true Snorky, it is about a life style, not verbal words, we must walk the walk as Christians to make a real difference in the world.

  • Cheryl

    Amen Fred, and if people would believe and live for God, oh what a difference we could make in this world

  • Susan Royston Fiori

    Which , if you change the wording slightly, is EXACTLY what is happening! With his various administrative appointments, EO’s, and other liberties he is taking; droning, no trials for American citizens, trying to disarm, etc, that is your totalitarian state. His views and those around him; Bill Gates and his wife, Planned Parenthood, and several other organizations that put no value on life (at any stage), that he supports, is your eugenics (negative). He may not be all for war and invasion of other countries but he is all for the invasion of America by forces of a different nature; barring military Catholic priests from entering their church during gov. shutdown and even worse forbidding them from even administrating the sacraments to the soldiers, (Christian persecution not just Catholic) but allowing Muslims to proceed as usual, forcing the healthcare mandate on individuals who in conscience oppose parts of it, i,e,: abortion, birth control, sterilization, etc. He is destroying the country from the inside and we are letting him. Do you not think that these “camps” will later be used for anyone who they see as law breakers? If things continue as they are, ordinary people may find themselves ‘displaced’ until they agree.

  • Susan Royston Fiori

    I think you put the wrong name with that quote! Credit should be given to BHO! I swear sometimes when I hear him and watch his mannerisms when he speaks, he studied all of Hitler’s newsreels! He looks and sounds just like him!

  • snorky neederecker

    Leftism is characterized by communism, and socialism is the pathway there. Your advanced degree says to me you were just another fluffer for the leftist professors I had to endure throughout my advanced degrees and undergraduate teaching career. You are the type that likes to point out the nationalism of the Nazis and try to claim that makes them “right wing” which is a bunch of horsepoo. Communism is fascist because it naturally takes away the right of the Individual – so they have to force it. Freedom, which is what the right champions, and loves, is for the individual, not about the collective. And, Hitler was anti-capitalist AS HE SO STATED, as I posted earlier… just like any intellectually dishonest ivy leaguer you offer no evidence whatsoever for your “opinion” and retroactive history-making. You also don’t post any words by Mr. Hitler himself, of course, and unfortunately, kids like Matt Mark swallow it whole without chewing. It’s pretty nauseating.

    “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system
    for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries,
    with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and
    property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all
    determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” –Adolf Hitler

    (Speech of May 1, 1927)

    NAZI stands for socialist party.

    Leftists are totalitarian. For example, in America are very totalitarian, telling us even how many ounces of soda we can drink (Democrats, New York, 2012). Hitler was totalitarian, same way….because he was a leftist.

  • James Marcum

    man that’s disturbing!!!!I esp. didn’t like the part where the arrested that older gent for housing the homeless!!!!! Any follower of Jesus is gonna try to help folks. People this could be bad

  • Douglas Morris

    yes, I commented on the article and not I don’t believe theyre rounding folks up.
    YET.
    but it happened in the 70′s and 80′s and will happen again once the press starts reporting the true homelessness issue, which they’ll do if Republican’ts gain the senate, maintain the house and elect a POTUS, then the press will be GANGBUSTERS on the homeless issue in Obama’sAmerica.

  • Doc

    The fool says there’s no God!

  • Ewetah

    Are they using them to supply body parts for hospitals? There was a movie about that several years ago.

  • snorky neederecker

    Amen Cheryl! God bless you dear.

  • snorky neederecker

    False Christians are described every bit as much as real ones, and how their leaders will be held more accountable than anyone before God.

  • Ayenda Pineda

    I just dont get it….with humanity!!! Who wouldn’t want to follow Christ just those people that make the choice to follow their own fleshly desire, the wide open gate, society, the whats in at the moment thing, they follow the crowd……….absolutely nothing of what God asks of us is wrong or bad….absolutely not one …….deed!!! THis world has a system and many humans follow and God has his own system and the perfect one too……. Its your choice to some degree……which path you take…there is nothing in between…God bless America…..& humanity

  • Jed Taylor

    and don’t forget Flavian Titus who the Jesus figured was based upon, Jesus is a story nothing more, the gods of the bible are living breathing beings (not the creator of the universe)

  • snorky neederecker

    “We are socialists, we are enemies of
    today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the
    economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly
    evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of
    responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy
    this system under all conditions.” –Adolf Hitler, Quoted in John
    Toland, “Adolf Hitler”, p224.

    Put into Google Hitler and socialist, and you’re bound to come up with various websites with the above quote. Nationalist healthcare, totalitarianism, all were a part of Nazi Germany.. your pathetic attempts to try to paint conservatives with this brush by re-writing history won’t work, enough of us REMEMBER.

  • snorky neederecker

    Spoken by someone who never studied a Bible in their lives… you know, even little woodland creatures are smarter than this… they don’t reject automatically something they haven’t investigated, themselves, first hand. *eyeroll* Plenty of PHDs and other advanced degreed people know the Bible is the Word of God and has no error. Famous people from Ann Rice to CS Lewis to Bob Dylan to Tyler Perry are Christians.

    You sound like nothing but an ignorant snob, talking about what you never really examined with an unjaundiced eye.

  • cspanjunkie1

    Nov. 19th there is a march planned to washington where those who oppose/dislike/disagree with this administration and many of the policies will be NEEDED to show our opposition. On a fb page (if you google it) the truckers ride for the constitution, the million bikers march to washington, and just google protest- It has now become a DUTY to show our disgust, dislike, anger, (fill in your own adjective) – there NEEDS to be a show of force, a show of many. there are link ups to car pool if you can’t afford it on your own- (thats’ how I got my rideshare) but I do believe it is time to show this admin that it isn’t just a few radicals that oppose his administration-The march has to be LARGE- and I hope we can all make it -I now believe this administration and the democrats who are protecting this potus is against america and our values all the while stating that they are constitutional! amazing in my view. (and I am 60 year old woman who NEVER thought I would have to do something like this but I don’t want my kids living in agenda 21 housing and living under socialsist, communist rules or under caliphate laws) Sound the alarm, pass on the need for warm bodies in washington on nov. 19th to protest this administration)

  • goorru

    YES! eventually all the homeless will get a virus that will turn them into zombies and that will be the end of humanity.

  • goorru

    Use your brains before the zombie homeless people eat it.

  • Justin Green

    If I’m afraid of this so called god, then damned by george I’m afriad santa clause will gip me of all my christmas presents due to being naughty.

  • goorru

    The thought of zombie soldiers is very scary.

  • Justin Green

    uh huh…

  • Justin Green

    What if you’re wrong about the other 9,999 man made gods that you’re not worshiping?! Those gods take so much pity on your soul…. Gods bless you, gods bless you.

  • bdgshv

    What do you call it then Hitler’s Germany did the same thing with UNDESIRABLES!

  • Justin Green

    You know I can actually test to see if I’m their son or not, where as the bible was written, then re-written with complete 20/20 hind sight. You know, I can write any story and throw in a few ‘factual’ facts into it to make it somewhat believable. And in time once everyone that can verify it’s authenticity is dead. Who’s to say it’s true or not? Same goes with the bible. Funny thing about the bible though is if is horribly factually inaccurate.

  • Justin Green

    If there is a god, and I meet him. He’ll have hell to pay. Because my will is a lot stronger than some man made invention to control how you think.

  • JDC

    There is nothing to lose by having faith in God. You will not lose your soul anymore by believing in Him than you will if he does not exist. The end result of God being a lie, for a believer, is nothing lost. HOWEVER, if you are wrong and God is real, YOU have gambled EVERYTHING on the basis of lacking proof, and lost your soul for eternity, while someone of faith has gained EVERYTHING.

  • Joe Hinkie

    And you know as a fact …….HOW??????????

  • ChristianPatriot146

    Snorky, just remember – Jude1:17But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, 18that they were saying to you, “In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.” 19These are the ones who cause divisions, worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit.

    And in 2 Peter3: 2that you should remember the words spoken beforehand by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior spoken by your apostles. 3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.”…

    And 2 Peter 2:10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings;

    Plus John 12:48There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.

    It’s pointless to entertain the foolishness of the unbeliever.

  • JDC

    Re-education facilities are next, for those of us deemed as terrorists for extreme political beliefs on one side or the other. Everything is headed towards partisanship and the damage it can do by people with access to resources like the internet. While the mainstream media pushes partisanship and the drama it creates by telling liberals to hate conservatives, and vice versa. It’s all unfolding and no one notices it. Like the movie swordfish, we are all watching the wrong hand, at the wrong time.

  • Justin Green

    Everyone dies, fact of life, how we live that life will reflect through the whole histories to come. I choose to live my live to help erradicate the faith virus you were infected with as a child.

    Let’s say you were never, AND I MEAN NEVER, told about the jesus story as a child. But on your 21st birthday you had someone come up to you and said, “Have you given your soul to your lord and savior?” The first thing you would ask, being a logical person, would be, “who is this lord and savior, and what is a soul?” To this the idiot would respond, “Jesus Christ, he died for your sins. So that your immortal soul can live in eternity forever!” Hearing this, you would think this person was crazy. You would then ask, “How do I know he’s ‘my’ lord and savior? What is your proof of such a thing?” To which the idiot would respond, “It’s all right here in this bible! The whole story. He made us with original sin you see, and the new testament tells of his birth when God got a girl pregnant to give birth to him self, and life and death, then Resurrection. It’s an amazing story! He even preformed miracles!..” “Wait, what are miracles?” “A miracle is something that happens from the divine without explanation.” “Right… everything has a reason. Everything. So these ‘miracles’ are like some sort of magic?” “I guess you could say that” “And magic is not and has never been real?” ” Yes, to the best of my knowledge.” “Good day sir!” Idiot would follow… “But wait! He walked on water!!! He’s the sun of GOD!!!” “First off, only something with buoyancy can ‘walk’ on water, people do not have the proper buoyancy to do such a thing. Second, you’re quoting a book that has obviously never been peer reviewed or has actual real sources other than it’s word and belief with out evidence. Why should I listen to a word you say?!” “Because… If you don’t accept Jesus as your lord and savior, he’ll send you to hell to be tortured for eternity…” “…So what you’re saying is literally this then. He created him self by himself to give birth to him self, then tortured him self, and sacrificed hims self to him self so he could forgive us of original sin that he himself gave us in the first place?!” “Yes…”

    “GOOD DAY SIR!”

  • Squirrel

    That’s the biggest load of delusional Bullshit I’ve heard today so far.
    And I haven’t even had my coffee.

  • Bill J Janack

    I just read some of these comments and shake my head ! The only thing that i can offer to some of the people is a prayer that before their time comes that they have worked out all the issues that have set their hearts of ice ! I was really bad seed spent half or even most my life in group homes institutions and jail ! I spoke of all the disbelief in Jesus and God, why this and why that if he were real ! I know in my heart that HE is Jesus the son of GOD and he he did save me from the train wreck of a life i was living . My proof was the absolute feeling that washed over me as i prayed for the first time and asked the Lord to save me, it was a feeling i have never ever experienced in my life ! I am not saying that I am totally free of sin only that now I think a little more clearly before i act. And Some here have said its a way of lifestyle , i agree ! It became My way of love and understanding my fellow brothers and sisters under the Lord’s love for us all !!

  • Justin Green

    Yeah, witch burnings, Killing unbelievers, Oh that joys of a righteous world it would be wouldn’t it. You call me ignorant. I call you indoctrinated. You can’t seem to break this at all. So I’m going to ask you a question. Since science has just recently estimated the number of earth like planets in just our galaxy alone at close to 8 BILLION. Has your personal god gone to those planets and saved their immortal soul yet? Or do you think because of your god you are a better person than everyone else of non faith? I’m curious, did you parents teach you about faith as a child when you had not the reasoning skills to think for your self? Do you think there is a reason for that?

  • Justin Green

    Then your Three Kings (wise men) would be a day late and a dollar short. And the little drummer boy without his sticks.

  • Justin Green

    Noah’s ark huh? You mean that great global flood that there is absolutely no evidence of?! That Noah’s Ark? THE NOAH’S ARK THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO OF EVER OCCURRED BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH WATER ON EARTH TO COVER MT. EVEREST! THE NOAH’S ARK THAT THE WORLD WAS REPOPULATED BY INCEST?! THAT NOAH’S ARK?! THE NOAH’S ARK, WHERE ALL THE INDIANS AND PEOPLE LiVING ON ISLANDS IN THE PACIFIC AND IN AUSTRALIA ( NOT TO MENTION THE ANIMALS) SHOULD OF ALL DIED?!!! THAT NOAH’S ARK?!!!

    Hold on, I gotta take a breath. Okay better now. Are you absolutely stupid?

  • Justin Green

    I can not unite with people that think the world was populated then repopulated by incest twice.

    I can not unite with people that indoctrinate their children because they them selves were indoctrinated as children.

    I can not unite with people that take something on ‘faith’ and will never listen to reason and science.

    I can not unite with people that hold the idea of eternal life because they do not cherish this single life we live. Because if you are ‘living’ for your next ‘eternal life’, what’s the point of living at all.

  • clepto

    have you even done the math? stop believing everything you read and start learning how our country really operates…

  • Linda Phillippi

    Just feed them flouride.

  • Justin Green

    LOL Everything in the universe points to a universe without a god. Everything. Take a moment, think about something for me. This may take a few moments due to how horrible your critical thinking skills are. But please try. Do you know how big the universe is? Can you imagine 13.6 billion light years? Can you imagine the trillions of galaxies in that 13.6 billion light years? Can you imagine the trillions and trillions of stars found in each of those galaxies? Can you imagine the Trillions and trillions of planets orbiting around those stars? Can you imagine how ignorant you sound with you say everything was created for just us. on this one planet among a countless other planets in this universe?

  • Justin Green

    I’m waiting for your reply, make it a good one huh?

  • Linda Phillippi

    Better reserve me a room. When I refuse to submit to Obamacare long enough the IRS will put a lein on my property and I will become homeless.

  • Justin Green

    I laughed so hard at this, using the bible to justify the bible is like writing your own laws to justify your own actions.

  • Justin Green

    Which one? Santa Clause or Jesus? Hint, they are both made up.

  • Justin Green

    or make the world a worse place, which ever.

  • Justin Green

    oh now you’re typing here…

  • okjose56

    So as I was reading through the comments I noticed that about the first fifteen comments were about the issue’s in the story then the whole damn thing blew up into a debate about religion and the bible. To those of you that jumped into this debate with both feet please take the religious controversy to the accommodating sites. I have my own views about this subject yet the actual piece I have just read is something that is NOT ABOUT RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!
    There are thousands of homeless persons that have supported our country through their military service, thousands that lost everything they owned and worked for all their lives and are now considered “undesirable” and many many other types of HUMAN BEINGS that have no food, shelter or even a job to feed themselves let alone the families they may possibly have with them. This is the type of issue’s the debate on this page should be concentrating on, not religious debates. For those of you ready to jump down my throat for pointing this out, well, pull you’re nose out of the mirror and stick to the issue’s at hand. If You can’t do that, well, then, I guess, kiss my ass.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Wake.up.Defend.Our.Constitution Shane Ruthruff

    This is or was OUR country. Now WE are allowing this stuff to happen. It is OUR fault it is taking place. WE choose to stand by and not do anything. SO, when WE decide to take OUR country back, We can once again be proud that OUR families are protected from Tyranny

  • http://www.facebook.com/Wake.up.Defend.Our.Constitution Shane Ruthruff

    And as for all the comments on Christianity. Let me give a clue. The book of Revelations speaks of the events taking place today. HOW IN HELL did people thousands of years ago, know what could be taking place today? I stand FIRM that God is REAL. I don’t need any PROOF. Just as Abraham said over and over again “trust in God” I will do just that. NOW I don’t think any one church is the TRUE church. Jesus said when he comes back in the end days, that He will establish His church. So when He comes back, I WILL FOLLOW HIM. And all the ones set on disproving the Bible and the teachings, well that is their loss and they will answer to God in the end. Oh what A sad day, when the ones who knew of Him, but turned their back, and the ones who spoke against Him. In the end they will suffer the most. May God turn all your hearts and open your eyes. It is not just a BOOK or a Faith, it is so much more. IT IS A WAY OF LIFE

  • Synthia Fagen

    Thank you! As soon as it goes there the credibility of the whole thing goes down the tubes. It’s an unfortunate turn off and deters open, intelligent communication about the subject at hand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Wake.up.Defend.Our.Constitution Shane Ruthruff

    okjose. REALLY? look past the red tape. It is about religion and God. It is all part of the times we are living in. God is about to cleans the earth again. Then there will be peace for 1000 years. read your scriptures

  • http://www.facebook.com/Wake.up.Defend.Our.Constitution Shane Ruthruff

    Linda good job…. :)

  • Synthia Fagen

    Thank you. Disinformation is dangerous. That said, I will say that when there is a will to do something, backlash may keep that intent at bay for awhile, but it may rear its ugly head again. It’s certainly something to keep an eye on. I very much appreciate this link you provided above.

  • Synthia Fagen

    I’ll just leave this here as someone else did below:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/columbia-criminalizing-homelessness_n_3866273.html

    Get ALL the data and then form a fully educated opinion.

  • Danny Badhwa

    If all members of the government took the time to go out and meet homeless people this wouldn’t exist.
    I take the time to go talk to the homeless, I have a huge amount of respect for them. I’ve written several articles on discrimination toward the homeless. Please take the time to read this, I hope it will help change some opinions on the subject.
    http://www.lakevoicenews.org/a-view-from-their-eyes-discrimination-toward-the-homelesspoverty-stricken/

  • Possum Hunter

    Looks like the “Right Wing Nutjobs were Right all along!

  • Patty B

    Baltimore, Maryland is right now trying to stop panhandling on the streets with a pretty tough bill, there were many who came to court just 2 days ago in support of the homeless. So now they are revisiting the bill and talking to try and find a nicer way to limit panhandling in high business areas possibly.

  • Charlotte Juett

    I had to borrow this for my facebook page.

  • nwbrian

    Cut the crap. If you’re not a believer, then quit wasting time trying to convince others to think like you. Pretty simple…get a freaking hobby.

  • Sebastian Avery Simmons

    exactly, all these bible thumpers are a prime example of hypocrisy.

  • Steve Spence

    Although they did approve this bill, due to public backlash, it was rescinded before implementation. It never went into effect. Cooler heads prevailed!

  • Patty B

    Here’s an article from Fox news back in August on the subject.. talks about Tampa and Portland too http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/south-carolina-capital-city-forces-its-homeless-out/

  • Darkfallenangel Martinez

    You are 100% wrong …It is written Father forgive them for they do not know what they do !!!! The Blind will lead the blind… A pure Heart will over come the False ones ……You are given your chance of say at Judgement …..

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  • PedroGonzalez

    Scoop em up. Move em out.

  • Edgar Ustinov

    these arent just ANY FEMA camps. they quietly ship homeless people off to them first, then they ship immigrants, then US protesters. why does this remind me of FALLOUT 3 GAME? oh, wait, they did something similar there. I really wouldnt be surprised if FEMA was working on bioweapons, maybe Forced Evolutionary Virus, using these people as test subjects.

  • Sebastian Avery Simmons

    the bible has been changed thousands of times, by men, mostly english kings. It is based on ancient greek/roman methods of population control.

    Source: University world religion class.

  • Vernon Steinkamp

    Justin, it was never mentioned in the Bible that there were 3 kings or wise men. This has only been concluded by people because there were 3 gifts mentioned.

  • Sebastian Avery Simmons

    Wrong, many many things in the bible have been disproven. Here is an example from bill nye the science guy :P . http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/bill-nye-creationism_n_1837505.html . In the bible it says that god created two sources of light, one to govern the day and one to govern the night. This is not true though because the light seen from the moon is simply a reflection from the sun, meaning there is only 1 source of light in our solar system.

  • madgrandma

    “If you didn’t have a manufacturer, there would be no product… ” The Media is hiding this and it is happening across the country…. There will be a ‘great awakening’ and it will come soon. When the time comes to choose, I hope you have a foundation in being an American. Otherwise, we’ll be enemies. I know who my friends are,… DO YOU?

  • Vernon Steinkamp

    Justin, you obviously don’t know much about the Bible. Even non-Christian historians have written about the miracles performed by Jesus. He did these to prove His authenticity. After reading the Bible through, one can only conclude that it is not man inspired. No man would write things about mankind that are found in the Book. The Bible says taste and you will see, you refuse to even taste.

  • Sebastian Avery Simmons

    allow me to rebuttal then, although i could say the same about many of the “pro-christian” posts on this page. Christian’s are absolutely the most judge mental people i have ever seen. Which in and of itself is pure hypocrisy( according to YOUR bible).

  • Darkfallenangel Martinez

    I have read all your words and all I can say is Remember the False Ones have changed the Bible to suit their way of controlling the Masses and to bring confusion to Mankind …Keep you heart pure and come Judgement Day All truths will be known …These camps are a true showing what lays in our mist …….May I ask what have you done for your fellow man / Brother ?

  • The Old Hippie

    Why is it that when people can not prove there is no God, they have to make fun of others beliefs? Is that to make themselves look great and big, at least in their own eyes?

  • joeschmo8675309

    Maybe he should prove that he loves or can love. Prove it. Double dare ya.

  • Maurice Stapler

    Do all “educated people” have as great a command of the language as you?

  • yourneighborhoodfriendly

    He was sharing bible verses with another believer to help him keep in mind what the bible says about people that oppose it.

  • The Old Hippie

    Two questions;
    1: Do you always test a chair before you sit in it or do use “faith” that it will hold you?
    2: When you drive down the street, do test every other driver to see that they will stay on their side of the road, in their proper place or do have some “faith” that they will not impede your passage?

  • Lila Sargent

    When I was much younger I let my faith slip. I went to church faithfully at least twice a week. I started questioning my beliefs at about the age of twenty. This probably lasted about ten years. I then sat down and talked to a minister about this. I could not believe the people I saw in church on Sunday mornings were the same ones I had seen fooling around with other peoples spouses and being so drunk on Saturday night they had to be driven home from the bars.We talked about this for a long time and the minister finally said” Lila these are the ones who are still trying to be good people and this is Jesus’ teachings.Eventually they will come full force to the Lord. Many times they have to reach rock bottom before they realize what they have been searching for has been right here all the time.” I started looking at things a lot differently then. Over the years I have been upset with God. I have even hollered at him. Many times.God is patient and loving and has carried me more times than I have walked alone. I am now sixty nine and facing other challenges and I know I will make it through because of the GOOD LORD.

  • called

    Alas, another sea of Christian-hating trolls who have ignored the topic: strange disappearance and treatment of homeless. By the way, with your beliefs, or lack thereof, you too are homeless and shall someday mysteriously vanish.

  • Lila Sargent

    When I was much younger I let my faith slip. I went to church faithfully at least twice a week. I started questioning my beliefs at about the age of twenty. This probably lasted about ten years. I then sat down and talked to a minister about this. I could not believe the people I saw in church on Sunday mornings were the same ones I had seen fooling around with other peoples spouses and being so drunk on Saturday night they had to be driven home from the bars.We talked about this for a long time and the minister finally said” Lila these are the ones who are still trying to be good people and this is Jesus’ teachings.Eventually they will come full force to the Lord. Many times they have to reach rock bottom before they realize what they have been searching for has been right here all the time.” I started looking at things a lot differently then. Over the years I have been upset with God. I have even hollered at him. Many times.God is patient and loving and has carried me more times than I have walked alone. I am now sixty nine and facing other challenges and I know I will make it through because of the GOOD LO

  • snorky neederecker

    The people calling “idiot”, “retard” and “bozo” were the atheists, read again…….

  • Darkfallenangel Martinez

    AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • snorky neederecker

    There is only one God, friend. His name is Jesus Christ.

    Jesus Christ is God’s veil, so that you may know him, and love Him. But if you don’t follow Him, and you say you love Him, then He will call you a liar.

    He loves you so much He died on the Cross to save you – to pay for all the sins you have done, and will do. If you believe what He said, and follow Him, He said you would be saved.

  • Darkfallenangel Martinez

    AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • snorky neederecker

    Old Hippie, bless you, I think you are right. I also think they are terribly afraid.

  • Kathi Bernier

    If God is so wonderful, why would I have lost my soul for eternity, by not believing in Him? Sounds like He’s punishing me for not believing. “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

  • bodica

    GK Chesterton!

  • deacon_2112

    When did this thread turn into a religious debate? Isn’t the subject of this thread the funnelling of the homeless into concentration camps?

    Can’t you theists and atheists put it aside long enough to agree that this is wrong?

  • bodica

    Oh Sebastian, Sebastian! Science is so primitive. The scientists try so hard to challenge God when all they can produce are weak and primitive IMITATIONS of His Creations! And leave disaster in their wake!
    Sometimes the Scriptures are allegorical, sometimes historical, sometimes anecdotal, and sometimes pure poetry. All the Word of God and if we care to learn His language, He will reveal His meaning to us.

  • bodica

    Beautiful, Lila!

  • Smith

    Amen Cheryl!

  • bodica

    Analysis paralysis. The record of the visit of the Three Kings ILLUMINATES Divine Providence. The gift of frankincense – to sweeten the air in the stinky stable; and symbolise that Christ came to die for us: the myrrh – to heal the new mother, and symbolise the Healing of the world by the Christ Child; the Gold – for the flight into Egypt, and to show that the MATERIAL things of the world are BEHOLDEN to the Lord.
    Happy yet?

  • Justin Green

    You know, Horus did the exact same miracles. Resurrected the same man. But Horus is a egyptian god of salvation. Guess that’s beyond you though.

  • Jay Carlsen

    Of course , they need all the False hope they can Muster ……

  • guest

    Umm, the stars…

  • Jay Carlsen

    What ? The same Flood the American Indians were told to take 2 of every animal & go to the High Ground. & a Town in Colorado , Where first Nation people have chiseled a Line on the mountain side. To show where the water came up to ? All the Flood “Myths” across the planet … Yeah , I’m stupid.

  • yourneighborhoodfriendly

    You can’t see the box when you’re stuck inside!

  • called

    Remember…

  • Disgusted American

    You are more ignorant than Justin.

  • joe bloe

    Everyone is arguing about the Bible, nobody gives a fuck about their fellow Americans…ALL humans will burn in hell.

  • noname justavoice

    o ye of little faith and little knowledge.

  • Justin Green

    cognitive dissidence.

  • Justin Green

    are your reading comprehension skills that bad?

  • Mickey Rayfield

    No Justin, that isn’t true. Christ is real and He will reveal Himself to you, or anyone, that will come to Him in faith.

  • Justin Green

    why is it that the flight to egypt is only found in one book of the bible? And that historians never mention infanticide once in the time of jesus’s birth?

  • Tom Tindell

    I feel sorry for Justin, but you have to admire him as well. I mean, it takes an awful lot of faith to be an atheist. Justin, go ahead and believe what you want, but don’t stereotype the rest that you do not understand.

  • Justin Green

    that imaginary god you call jesus is nothing compared to Allah, Yahweh, Zeus, Dionysus, Mirtha, Krishna, Horus, Thor, ect.

  • snorky neederecker

    The only “religion” lately being shoved down anyone’s throat is Islam and secularism. And that’s a flat fact. Live with it, one day, it will be the end of this nation, if it keeps going the way it is now. Merely defending the tenents of one’s faith is not shoving anything anywhere. Another secularist lie.

  • Justin Green

    we’re the ones out in the open. you’re the ones stuck within a box taught to you at such a young age as truth.

  • Justin Green

    that was a very wise man. I like to think about i like this, If ‘god’ knows you heart, he would know that you’re only being good because you fear ‘hell’. Why not just be good?

  • Anonymous

    Just like Nazi Germany. You have a phone number you can call to turn in a Jew (I mean a homeless person). My bad.

  • goorru

    I don’t understand why someone would distrust the mainstream media and yet trust websites like this one. The real truth is somewhere in between.

  • Justin Green

    yes you quite are, thank you for admitting it though. Because that is a direct contradiction of the bible that says only those on the ark survived. And that the flood waters covered the highest peak of the highest mountain. Meaning your poor Indians would of drowned.

  • Eric Casey

    Eh, away with them. It’d help keep them off the drugs and alcohol.

  • ConspiracyTheorist

    What if not all of the people in these camps were homeless and they are just “domestic terrorists” stripped of their rights, clothes, and identity? “Domestic terrorist” being the buzzword used by CIA, FBI, and NSA to describe patriots.

  • Justin Green

    faith is the belief in something without evidence. Christ is a imaginary figure just like Santa Clause. Just like all the other man made gods. All made up, to control the masses and how you think.

  • April Corley

    How did this turn into a debate about religion…..THIS ISNT ABOUT RELIGION… ITS ABOUT US!!!! All of you get your shit together….you can bury your head in the sand and ignore whats happening or you can do something…and if you all want to turn this into a religious debate lets at least keep it on the topic of the craziness that is happening to our people…what would Jesus do for (all those religious folks)…and just for everyone in general ,,,,,what are YOU gonna do? Stand and fight for our rights or let them continue to take them away. Its time to quit fighting about who made the world or whos religion is right and start fighting to save ourselves!!! Snap out of it people and pay attention… To divide is to conqeur….STAND IN UNITY

  • Justin Green

    shoving christianity down the throats of your children is though. Where is their choice in the matter? Where are their voices? Silenced by you and your lot. You take advantage of them before they can think for them selves for a reason. Because if you don’t get them young. You never will.

  • zod

    You jesus freaks are pathetic. Get the fuck off the internet and do what your deity told you to do then. Shelter the homeless and care for the sick. You worship a socialist hippy that told you to pay taxes, yet you hate all 3 of those things. Christians need to be put into fema camps, not homeless people.

  • Gina R

    If I use a candle in a room, then place a mirror on the opposite side to reflect that candle, that room is twice as bright. This is not because there is only one source of light, but because the single source has been doubled by using a tool. In my case, a mirror. In Gods’ case, a moon.

  • goorru

    the video says that executive order 10990 “allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and seaports”. Not true, it was signed in 1962 by JFK and it Reestablishing the Federal Safety Council.

  • billjcanada

    You sir are a freaking idiot you can’t even get your facts straight..

  • Ryan Bush

    As a conservative, and citizen of Sacramento CA, I am inclined to believe that this story is bogus, and perpetuating false conspiracy

  • Justin Green

    oh? Please enlighten me, Oh so enlighten.

  • Gina R

    I was taught. I remember part of an old church song we used to sing; “…the worlds (plural) thy hands have made…” I’ll have to think a bit to remember the name of it, maybe someone else knows? Still, I remember that particular line because it told me that God made MANY worlds. There’s another line/ verse somewhere in the bible which tells us not to trust those not of this world. I really need to read it agai8n, I know, but it’s there. I’m curious, did YOUR parents teach YOU that the Bible tells us of other worlds and of aliens?

  • Douglas Ginther

    talk about unconstitutional…but then again nobody gives two fucks about the constitution. especially congress the president or the doj

  • Gina R

    Take it easy, dude. You have a lot of hatred bottled up there. Who did that to you?

  • Gina R

    There were many before, and some since, Jesus who were given the authority to do miracles. This is written about, too.

  • Gina R

    Actually, the story is also told of Mithras, with the virgin birth and all. Apparently, God has tried many times to get through to people.

  • Gina R

    You know, I always wondered if God himself has a father. If so, and ‘grandpa’-God has several children- maybe even each with their own galaxies…. Well it would fit in with being told not to trust those of other worlds. Big brother or little sister might mess with ‘his’ stuff just because. It’s the nature of siblings.

  • willie

    Well, I’ll say this. I wasn’t raised in a Christian home, or in a church when I was young. But, I was told about Jesus when I was a child. And one night I was talking to a girl and, I had a massive heart attack. I didn’t see bright lights, family, or friends. When my eyes were opened, I was in a glass casket, I was dressed in a white robe from my shoulders down to my feet. I had sandles on my feet. Around me was green grass about 14 to 16 inches high, in the distant they’re was the most beautiful sno cap mountains sand the air was so pure it was unbelievable. There was no pain, no sorrow, nothhing but, the most awesome felling of peace, and serenity. And, when I looked again they’re was a man clothed in a long white robe, and his hair was shoulder length. And his eyes was so piercing, their color was an awesome gold color. And as I looked at his hands I noticed they’re were holes in the center of them. And he began to speak. But, I could not understand what he was saying. Then he waved his hand. My eyes were darkened, and when I opened my eyes, I was hung on a cross. I was in a dimly light cave, with fire coming out of the walls in places, then all of a sudden these half human, and half gargoyle like creatures came out they were without numbers. And behind me I could feel an intense heat, they’re was the roar of a mighty sound of water. As I turned my head my ears were almost deafened by the sound of millions of voices of people. They were naked, and when I loooked they’re was this water rolling in the ceiling of the cave, and it was consumed by firie. And these people were crawling on top of each other sticking their self in the fire. Theyy would be immediately bust into flames, and when they fell and hit the ground they would be immediately extinguished. I said God please forgive them, and this voice said I gave them room to repent of their sins and they repented not. Now this is their final resting place. All of a sudden as I turned around they’re was the most file disgusting creature staringvme in the face. He had the face of a dragon, the teeth of a serpant, the horns of a ram, the hands of dragon and the feet of an oxen, and his skin was fleshly red all over, and all of a sudden in a deep demonic voice he said, I got your soul for ever. I turned my head cleared my throat turned and spit in his face and told him Satan you will never take my soul. Immediately I was back in the glass casket looking at who I knew was Jesus without even knowing it was him. He then said to me and this time I heard him. He said do you want to stay with ne or, do you want to go back. Me not knowing him, but just knowing of him I was afraid I said I want to go back. Then he said something else and I read his lips. He said there are two scriptures in my Fathers book find them. And 28 years later I did. He said one many will go throw, and the other hold on to. The scriptures go. Fear none of those things thou shalt suffer, behold Satan shall cast some of you in to prison, and you that Ye may be tried and, ye shall have tribulation 10 days, be thou faithful unto death, and I’ll give thee the crown of life. And the other Behold, I come guickly: hold fast that which thou hast, that no man take thou crown. You see me people being just like so many. I didn’t know God, or Jesus. But many years ago he came to me, saved my life, and then gave something to share with others so they may look in His book and know you can have life after death, and beyond our comprehension. I already experienced it a little, and it was awesome. You see I seen Jesus the bottomless pit ,the lake of fire, the fallen angels, andstared the devil in the face, and seen already millions of people already in hell lost forever. I ask why me LLord I still haven’t recieved an answer from him. But I’m more than grateful than words can say. So you can take what I said and look in the Bible and find out if I’m lying. People I will not lie to you about this, why I truly care about people. And I have nothing to gain by lying to anyone. So if this will help to give some piece of mind, then iI’m honored i could help you.

  • Gina R

    Study it in it’s original language, or at least a good portion of it, and add some more sources and you might have an opinion with some weight.

  • ha

    When you learn to spell Santa Claus, maybe you can lecture us about the existence of God.

  • goorru

    The people of South Carolina agree with you, so it never came to fruition.

  • Gina R

    Then go read the originals. The Jews have copies of many books, several museums have others and some are in private collections, but digitally available. Go and look at those so you can quit picking on the failings of men and see what’s true about God.

  • called

    Not true. Some of the firmest believers are the ones who have had a Saul of Tarsus experience later in life. Most of the shakable Christians I have known are the ones who were raised from infancy to be Christians in a home that didn’t properly demonstrate the love of God. Justin, we live in an imperfect world filled with imperfect people. This is why we need to strive for love in a place where the real thing is rare and usually inadequate. Please understand that there is a difference between people who say they are Christians and those who behave as true Christians. If a person has hatred in them for anything but sin, they are not practicing the teachings of Christ. We are to hate sin not sinners not only in others but in ourselves as well. When a true Christian attempts to bring the Gospel to the unsaved it is out of genuine concern for that persons eternal soul. You are loved by people you have never met; loved with a love that is incomprehensible because it goes beyond the temporal into the spiritual. Please seek the truth just as you ask us to do. When a person comes to the real Jesus Christ they too must take time to weed through the false doctrines and teachings that have brought so many offences to the Church. We see those teachings as abominable and are offended by them too. ~peace and shalom

  • Anita Carney

    You forget about the inquistion. Many christians were killed because they didn’t agree with the church. They would burn them, and confiscate they property. No the church is the last organization I would want to govern anybody or anything.

  • Melanie

    Those lyrics are from the song “How Great Thou Art”

  • Jess

    True spirituality will only be reached through the name Jesus !

  • Nunya

    Christians are happy to be oblivious and ignorant. Lol one of them was a landlord that preached to me every time I saw her…OMG Jesus this god that…she was an ex crackhead btw….I asked her one day, just to see what reaction I would get Bc most have no idea where those ideas of the bible even came from or how it was put together, “what year was the bible written?” She said with the famous blank Christian grin ” that’s a good question, I don’t know but I can find out for you”. Lol never heard back from her about that but her and her husband stole almost 300$ from me. Perfect example of Christianity. Christianity is for weak minded followers but they are so far gone they can’t be shown reality. Why do they insist on thinking it’s their business knowing what other people believe about god or religion? Why ńot just start being decent people?

  • Jess

    For those who want to knock Christ, give it a rest ! There is something called a spiritual transformation, where one can not deny the lasting, holy changes that take place in the human being, these changes will not come by no other name than Jesus !

  • Synthia Fagen

    Critical thinking is required. To mindlessly throw one’s allegiance in one direction because one dislikes the opposite is to continue to leave and accept things uninspected. It’s also too black and white. People tend to do that simplify things and then, overall, it can create complete havoc and a hive mind.

  • Guest

    For those who want to knock Christ, give it a rest ! There is something called a spiritual transformation, where one can not deny the lasting, holy changes that take place in the human being, these changes will not come by no other name than Jesus ! You would not deny Christ, if you can be blessed to submit your will, and experience this change through Christ…

  • Jess

    For those who want to knock Christ, give it a rest ! There is something called a spiritual transformation, where one can not deny the lasting, holy changes that take place in the human being, these changes will not come by no other name than Jesus ! You would not deny Christ, if you can be blessed to submit your will, and experience this change through Christ, the same will that leaves you in bondage…

  • Frank Gardner

    So you believe in the “big bang” theory? It just went bang and now everything beautiful just exists? Science can’t explain where we come from. Big bang my ass. You believe what you want I will believe what I want. We all will answer to the Lord in the end.

  • Devon Atherton

    So this is true, because you or the media say it is?

  • Devon Atherton

    Lol I am most certainly no Christian. I believe in god though. But if you don’t realize, that they are saying that god made the MOON and the SUN in that passage. then your a fucking retard lol.

  • concernedinTN

    The Bible never states that there were “3″ wisemen.

  • millie

    We cannot let this happen. It is a problem but to put these people in a “jail” is not legal. Even if it is a glorified jail. When you are in a place where you cannot leave and are monitored, it is JAIL. Not a camp. I certainly hope this is not done in New Orleans. What an embarrassment this would be for Louisiana.

  • millie

    If they are illegal, they need to be deported. But not jailed in any type of confinement

  • Gary Arciszewski

    Give shelter to the Veterans, the rest toss into the camps.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Actually the Bible states nothing about ‘three wise men’ at all. It simply says that kings (no number given) visited Jesus sometime after his birth to present Him with gifts, and not when he was a baby in a manger – when he was ‘a small child’. As well, the Bible does NOT say WHEN Jesus was born. It says there were shepherds and sheep in the fields at the time, however, which suggests He was born between March and October, NOT in December. It was the Catholic church that ‘Christianized’ the pagan holiday of sun god worship and turned it into ‘Christmas’, complete with all the traditions (tree, Christmas ham, etc.) thereof.

    So you may be right about Christmas. But you are very, very wrong about
    the rest of the Bible, and your ignorance of it shows it. I challenge you to find anywhere in the Bible that it mentions ‘three wise men following a star in the east.’ I guarantee you you’ll be looking for a long, long time. Maybe you’ll find some faith along the way. One can only hope.

  • Miksacul

    It is impossible to prove a negative

  • Amy

    “Call the hotline”…Sorta like reporting a stray dog to the animal control. Unbelievable.

  • goorru

    Brilliantly said, thinking in the grey is not sexy or provocative. Extremism in any direction is dangerous. I feel like the kid in the schoolyard watching 2 kids fight over a candy bar and thinking to myself, “why don’t they just split it in half”

  • goorru

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/columbia-criminalizing-homelessness_n_3866273.html

    This is the REAL story. Don’t overreact to this belated story filled with half truths.. It was rescinded before it ever went into effect. There are people who care about the truth and people who care about website hits.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    My parents taught me nothing about faith. I learned about it on my own, later when I finally realized that the proof of God was everywhere.

    You mention eight billion earth like planets. I don’t know if that is true or not. But first off, just because a planet is like earth, that does NOT mean there is life on it, and certainly not intelligent life. Second off, think about that for a second. Eight billion planets eh? And those planets just… popped up out of nothing and nowhere for no reason at all did they?

    Think about the big bang theory, the world’s only somewhat logical explanation for the creation of the universe for a second. In a nutshell, science believes that in the beginning, there was nothing at all. And suddenly, within that nothing at all, elements (by elements I mean carbon, hydrogen, etc.) existed and sprang forth from that nothingness. Then those elements suddenly all collided and brought forth the universe we know of today.

    I ask you, what are the odds of that happening?

    And guess what? People are sinful. So a lot of things have been done ‘in Jesus’ name’ that are absolutely nothing like what the actual Jesus taught. Jesus would not have burned witches – He would have gone into their homes and taught them about the truth. He would have taught you too. He still would, if you were willing to listen.

  • miksacul

    If you need Jesus Christ or God or whatever to be a good, kind, decent and honest human being, then that is your choice. I CHOOSE to be a good, kind, decent and honest human being just because I can. I don’t need the fear of God to prevent me from committing evil acts – I know what is right and what is wrong in my heart. I don’t need you or anyone else who has read the Bible to quote lines from it to try and make me feel guilty. All I ask is that if you are going to sit there and preach this and that from the Bible, you had better live every waking moment living your life for God and at God’s will. Otherwise, keep it to yourself!

  • ChristianPatriot146

    I’m glad I could be of service to humor you today, Mr. Green. For an atheist, you sure are spending a lot of time to “prove” your point. For if you really didn’t believe in God, you’d ignore it. You seem more to be an agnostic…

    Besides, I wasn’t responding to you with my post of Bible passages. Agnostics and atheists don’t comprehend what the Holy Spirit of God has written.

  • linlin

    This must be stopped. Please read ONE NOT SILENT that person just posted and wonderful piece and we all need to do something. How soon will they by killing these “undesirables” who are being rounded up for being “homeless” ? Then comes the death panels, Which are already in place. If you are old and need to go into the hospital, you will die “of natural causes” of course but the reality of this is that you will be put to death. For now it’s “natural causes” next all the disabled will be killed, How soon will it be before the CONCENTRATION CAMPS will be killing millions.? Please God help us stop this horror.

  • tallron

    Nope, the dogs arent on drugs or booze. Invite one of these homelss to sleep in your backyard- I’m sure they would appreciate it, ans so will your neighbors.

  • ChristianPatriot146

    And you exhibit how little you know and understand about Christians and Christianity. And you need a spell checker.

  • linlin

    May I re-post your post on Facebook. OneNot Silent is needed to be read by everyone. Please post it , or let me and we can keep re-posting it and keep it on the page.

  • concernedinTN

    Very well stated. God bless you.

  • Robert Farmer

    Perhaps it is because you think Christians are perfect from the time of acceptance of Christ. God doesn’t change people from the outside in but from the inside out. You have your own philosophy, unfortunately for you it is because for some reason you think t finding yourself has something to do with your soul. Christianity is a transformation of ones heart ad mind and an understanding that you can not save yourself and that our human frailties do not disqualify one from God’s Kingdom. It is unfortunate that you have had no encounter with a transformed or born again Christian….perhaps you should change your search area.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    There are so many problems in this ‘conversation’ I don’t know where to start. First off, God did NOT make humans with ‘original sin’. He made humans perfect and beautiful. It was the HUMANS that chose to sin and turn their back on God.

    Secondly, the Bible itself tells one not to meddle with sorcerers.

    Thirdly, the miracles Jesus performed HAVE been corroborated by non-Christian sources.

    Fourthly, believe it or not, to the best of my knowledge, the Bible does NOT say that a person who rejects Jesus will be tortured eternally in hell. It says the wages of sin is DEATH, not eternal torture. As far as I am aware, the only being it mentions being thrown into a lake of fire is Satan and the antichrist of prophecy itself. Correct me if I am wrong on this Biblical scholars, because this is a subject I need to study more myself.

    And fifthly, as your own statements prove, no book in history has been more thoroughly peer reviewed. Atheists just love to point out what they believe to be inconsistencies, when really all they’re doing is quoting things that, as Bodica said, are allegorical, historical, anecdotal, or poetical and trying to present them as what they’re not.

    If you’re going to attempt to debunk the Bible, make sure you have a clue on what you’re talking about first.

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  • Robert Farmer

    Christianity is based on faith in the unseen rather than the seen. You have your faith in things seen but what happens when those things are gone. when your health and wealth are gone…what then is left for you. When your earthly family and friends have abandoned you, upon what relationship will you cling to.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I have done so for him on several occasions. Calling you an idiot is not in line with the Bible, however, the arguments you present as facts directly from the Bible itself are not either.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    When you meet God, you will see that there is something far more than yourself and you will be humbled in His presence. I pray that before that day comes, you learn something of faith.

  • goorru

    Do a little research and don’t believe the garbage on this website.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/columbia-criminalizing-homelessness_n_3866273.html

  • Yuven Tayclue

    by all scientific reason, radio waves are a myth and should never have been discovered.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    As I have stated above, the reason for this is that the catholic priests could not convince pagan converts to give up their holiday traditions, so they ‘Christianized’ the sun god festival. That does not mean that Jesus did not exist or is not the true son of God.

    Again, the Bible says nothing about ‘three kings’ visiting baby Jesus in a manger.

    And there are plenty of non-Biblical accounts of the miracles Jesus performed. One Google search would provide all the information one needed to someone not determined to blind themselves to the truth.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Think about how unlikely that is to have just popped out of nowhere with no intelligent being behind it and I guarantee you your head will spin. Tell me, what are the odds of all of that just exploding from nothing?

    The prosecution rests.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Which is why someone should not base their judgments of the Bible on modern translations that leave hundreds of verses out verses the original Geneva Bible, or as original as we can get to it. That does not prove it untrue.

  • ZacKeith

    “Um. The claim that they’re being contained in a FEMA camp looks like it’s ENTIRELY FALSE. It’s a private shelter run by Christ Central Ministries, and seems to have absolutely nothing to do with FEMA.
    There’s no actual link to FEMA in the article, and the “link” they provide is just a search of FEMA’s web site for pages about temporary shelters, which…man, look at it: http://usasearch.fema.gov/search

    A page about displaced dogs! Instructions for setting up emergency shelters! What the hell is this article trying to pull?

    Obviously the *actual* news here (here’s their source article) is pretty disgusting, but polluting actual news with conspiracy-theory bullshit is pretty shitty.”

    - My Friend Who Researches Things Really Efficiently.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Tolkien was a Christian, you know.

  • Tammy Sexton

    oh look, the bible has been translated yet again……every time you take a verse from a chapter of a book of the bible and add it to yet again another verse of another chapter of another book of the bible, it gets translated all over again……and only people who think they are above others or feel it’s their place to judge others seem to translate to fit those verses into a translation that fits their own personal agenda or needs……so do us all a favor, don’t think just because you “study” the bible, that you know all, because, as hard as it may be for you to swallow, you really truly don’t know….I think that the bible was written by man to keep us all in line back in the day, call it, if you will, a set of moral codes to live by, and that’s my opinion……it’s my understanding that religion has basically started every war that is known, so it could be looked upon as “the root of all evil” as well.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Oh you’re not afraid of Him now, that’s obvious. But you will be.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Whether a reflection or not, it still gives off light. Therefore, this does not prove that passage false.

  • Tammy Sexton

    wow, there’s that christian love that I’ve seen over & over……I suppose you “give til it hurts” to so the guy standing in the pulpit can afford to wear that $1000 suit as well?

  • dirtbag

    so, if I understand you, the bible is literal when it suits your means, but allegorical when it doesn’t. how effing convenient for you.

  • lee t.

    Well stated sir….well stated !!

  • Lilie Mnuk

    I am a Yoga Master and teach Brain Management, and have experienced the God energy running through my body more than once. I have a deeper understanding of consciousness, of energy, and have felt more than just my physical body, organs, etc. and actually felt my energy body as well and delved deeply into my spirit as well. I learned basic universal laws, and am continuing to learn, help myself and help others. I understand Christ Consciousness as being described as the same thing. I also love ACIM.org as it complemented my learning and helped tremendously. There is also room for education (preferably self-education) to fully experience this physical world and all the unseen realms, as well as our body, the temple. So I don’t think I need to meet born-again Christians unless they have delved as deeply or even more so than what I have done. I have met many Christians that do what I do as well and understand as I do. If you can take your consciousness and move it deep within your heart and feel your soul and develop a relationship with it, this is what gets you and connects you to God (depending on what your definition of God is, of course).

  • Dominodarren

    1940′s rounding up of the undesirables happened in Ireland…

  • Paula J.

    Also reflected light of suns, far, far away! :)

  • Dirtbag

    so then fred, your “faith” is really just fear of the possible consequences for unbelief. you don’t believe in god because you love and respect him, but because, as you put it; ” Justin I’ve always believed that if you are right, and there is no God, then I have lost nothing in my belief, but if there is a God, you’ve lost everything with yours.” That isn’t real faith, you’re just afraid of the proverbial lake of fire.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I’ll share something with you. When I was an atheist, I had no belief in anything at all (obviously, but bear with me), and I was absolutely miserable. I attempted suicide at least thirty times before I was 20, and have well over three-hundred or so self-inflicted scars on my arms, shoulders, legs, and the rest of my body. My life, for lack of a better word, sucked.

    When I visited my roommate from college three years ago, at first she annoyed me. Everything she said was about God, and I missed the ‘old’ Nichole. But then I noticed how much happier she was. She was smiling and cheerful, and she never was in college. So I decided I wanted that for myself. I began to question and ask about God. One day, I said: ‘I don’t know what’s out there, but if You’re there God, and You’re willing to show me, I’m willing to listen.’

    Within two days, I had seen such proof of the existence of God I will never be able to doubt it again. The proof of the Lord exists, for those who will allow themselves to see it.

  • Mike Meidinger

    Not sure it’s a good idea to threaten people to believe in w/e faith you follow.

  • lee t.

    Says “darkfallenangel” lmao..

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Not what they said at all. Clearly you didn’t understand them.

  • Ricky Rogers

    Your actually a prophecy as the bible foretold that people like you would be saying the things you are saying – Check out Roman history and the writings of Josephus, who by the way was atheist, and yet wrote about the miracles he witnessed of Jesus and his resurrection – Only a fool says in his heart there is NO God!!!!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    That is an unfortunate truth. Being afraid of punishment isn’t real faith. But loving God, laying your life down for Him if necessary, following His commandments and turning to Him when one fails, believing in Him when people like you and Justin Green come along and try to tear that belief apart… that IS faith. So Fred has faith to speak out on his beliefs when there are so many atheists here just waiting to tear every comment made by Christians apart.

    Cue the tearing apart of this comment now.

  • The

    How the hell is being homeless worthy of punishment? These people are trying to get back on their feet (i know not all are, but those who aren’t trying are usually those who have given up due to failure at doing so which should not call for punishemnt) and you throw them in a friggin encampment. Just because you don’t want to see and experience the harsh reality that others aren’t as fortunate as you does not give you the right to isolate, or arrest them. Humans are so friggin dumb, we ruin our environment, disregard other life forms other than humans, and even then if they aren’t the kind of humans we like we punish them for being so. We screw with the different genomes like we have the right to. Humans do every living thing a favor and go extinct.

  • The

    my relationship with myself and my environment duh.

  • lee t.

    Not so much the hate for god,as it is the disbelief that in 2013,people still believe that the earth is only 6000 years old.

  • goorru

    What about when liars make fake anti government propaganda, did you speak?

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    You know, how does the belief of Christians hurt you? If you believe in nothing, then why does it follow that you must convince all the world to believe in nothing too? You have said ‘cognitive dissidence’ to someone here in attempt to refute their belief, but every comment you post is proof of cognitive dissonance. You feel like you must convert every Christian to atheism, or you will have failed in life, or so it seems to me.

    For a long time, I wondered why people like you absolutely HAD to try to debunk every Christian comment, belief, and principle ever made if they believed nothing existed. What does it matter if someone believes in a God that supposedly doesn’t exist? If you’re right, there won’t be any more consequence for someone that believes than someone that doesn’t.

    The reason is because God is pulling at the strings of your own heart, trying to help you to see the truth of Him, but you are not willing to believe it. So you set out on a mission to prove Him wrong not just to justify your own beliefs or lack thereof, but to calm the stirrings of the Lord within the depths of your soul that say all have fallen short of the glory of God, and all need the Savior. Deny this all you want; the fact of the matter is that this is the truth. Otherwise there would be no need to argue and try to prove everyone wrong because you would be at peace with your own beliefs and thus have no need to justify them.

    I pray that the Lord will give you eyes to see and ears to hear the truth of the Lord all around you, not to justify my own beliefs – they need no justification – but so that you can know the peace that is the Lord. It’s so lonely without Him.

  • lee t.

    Wait..I thought that Jesus was the son of God,not God himself..?

  • Mug

    Actually I’m pretty sure Tolkien leaves it up to the reader to decide, but he implies that it actually existed but so long ago in the history of the world( or time not sure) that its been pegged as myth/fantasy. : D

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Forgive me, that wasn’t meant to be threatening, but now that I look at it again I can see that it would be taken that way. What I meant is that in the end we will all see the Lord, and know that He is God. It seems to me that on this day people that have had no faith in Him will be afraid. They will know He was everywhere and they chose not to see Him. The thought of that day terrifies me for them. I did not mean to threaten anyone to believe.

  • goorru

    If you do 1 minute of research, you will learn there is no homeless prison camp it was quickly shot down by the people of the city.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/columbia-criminalizing-homelessness_n_3866273.html

  • Dip

    Lol also hasn’t the bible been altered by like several different people over the course of its existence? It’s like if i took the beliefs of seven different people each from a different generation and put them together. (some with no idea about the original text). Its like one really stupidly popular game of a telephone.

  • Gene Nash

    Like Obama ?

  • snorky neederecker

    Yahweh -is- Yeshua…. and if Allah, the manmade god, was a real God, we’d all be in trouble. You are being confused by demons who want you to ignore the message of Jesus Christ. May God bless you with wisdom and truth.

  • Daniel Arndt

    I just realized why the homeless are being rounded up without anyone doing anything to help…See the comments below where people bicker back and forth about religion when the thread was about the homeless. These idiots get distracted so easily that the powers that be can do whatever the hell they want. WAKE UP!!!

  • Randolph Politte

    Wrong, nothing in the bible has been or ever will be proved wrong! It’s a little sad that some atheists have nothing better to do than to sit around trying to get people off their faith. If you think there is a contradiction in the bible you are either misunderstanding something or there is a mistranslation. News flash… there is nothing anybody can say to a well studied Christian to get them to lose faith. One either has eyes to see and ears to hear or one doesn’t. They can be developed but never lost once found!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Unfortunately to be Christian does not imply that a person then becomes perfect. We all make mistakes. I could argue that the LBGT movement is just as judgmental – everyone that doesn’t believe as they do is automatically labelled a ‘homophobic’ and ‘bigot’. That’s just one example though.

  • Synthia Fagen

    Yay! I am your first follower. :) (and now that I look at it, the only one I am following — that is indeed meaningful – lol)

  • Mary Meinel Newport

    As I understand it, the entire western states are within range. Then, the ICBMs’ with nuclear bombs are to tale the Polar route, which sends them down the Atlantic states. This is the threat if we make any first strike at Iran, as Israel is trying to get us to do. Then, There’s Israeli leadership who are proposing that Israel make a first nuclear strike on Iran’s open desert. Then they imagine that Teheran will obey Israel’s orders. Or they are nuked next. I’m sure this has not escaped President Vladamir Putin’s attention. He has a mobile arsenal of Rocket launchers, capable even of acomedating ICBM’s. They could be in Iran, by now. it’s MAD.

  • MARCUS

    So one needs to supply proof in order to believe in the existence of God, but you need no proof to justify your belief in the nonexistence of God? hypocritical at best, poorly articulated Kantian philosophy at worst.

  • SWANG

    homelessness
    is not a religion, race, or creed. they are not being targeted and used
    for experiments nor are they being killed because they don’t have the
    same beliefs as others, to compare this to the holocaust is offensive.
    homeless people are either drug addicts or mentally ill, and they make
    more money begging then minimum wage workers make in a year; which for
    the most part funds their drug addiction. i am from Philly and see
    homeless people everyday, and if you ask me it is a blessing that they
    are being given the option to have a bed to sleep in instead of a
    cardboard box on the sidewalk. get real people and stop making
    everything out to be this huge controversy, its so tiring. Also, it’s
    probably making the streets a lot safer for hard working Americans,
    because like i said MOST homeless people are junkies or suffer from
    mental illness, aside from the few exceptions (like will smith in
    pursuit of happyness [tear]). if i was living on the street i would be
    elated at the fact that someone is offering me a hot meal and a bed to
    sleep in everyday, because we all know homeless shelters are first come
    first serve until there is nothing left to serve that is. is it so wrong
    that communities would want to rid their streets of junkie
    heroin/crack/PCP addicts and schizophrenics? and if so, i don’t see any
    of you doing anything about the issue aside from posting your bullshit
    on a blog.

  • MARCUS

    “Hello. My name is sebastian and I will attempt to discredit a series of documents and letters that have been established for several thousands of years during which time they have been rehashed and debated by nearly every philosopher, religious and spiritual leader, using just the internetz, a huffpo article and Bill Nye the Science Guy.” Yeah. Ok.

  • Albert Perez

    No, your just appealing to consequence.. It’s an illogical fallacy. Good luck with that though

  • Jane Summarsell

    Oh for goodness sake. God is not a God of wrath but of love and compassion and believing blindly in something isn’t right. I believe in a God, not your obviously, but I do. And I have had PROOF that an afterlife exists but in the form the Christians talk about. There is no fear when you are there unless you have been particularly wicked and then you go to a hell which is of your own making once you have been shown how awful you have been. Your conscience, when you had none here, will come and you will have karma come back to bite you. If it’s not too terribly bad then you will be allowed to come back into another life to live a better life and redeem yourself. I know I have nothing to fear and I know I’m right, not by blind faith but by experience and things I’ve seen. Now can you tell me you have seen things that prove a lovely afterlife? I bet not, it’s all about “faith”. I KNOW. That’s the difference.

  • Jane Summarsell

    You really have been brainwashed haven’t you? I feel nothing but sadness and pity for you. Go out into the world and open your eyes and maybe you will find the proof to know there is no such day as a Judgement Day as you see it. If there is anything near it it comes when you die and pass over to the next world. Your life will be shown before you on an Akashic record and you will be able to see all you have done and not done and where you have hurt people, even animals etc. or where you have been kind. YOU will judge YOURSELF, no one else will judge you. You will have lovely beings around you to comfort you, love you and help you to face the truth about yourself. I feel so sorry for people who don’t try to look for the real truth and go on with religious ideology in blind faith. I have found so much evidence for this world existing I cannot deny it even I questioned it for years. Even as a little girl I knew they were all wrong in their teachings about their God. I just walked away at 14 and then later went on a search for it after reading a book which I said, if that’s true then there is a life after death and I want to find out more about it. I did and I feel so good about passing over out of this horrid world, this is hell in this life, but I have to live out this life first.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Also if you believe all you read in the Bible then heaven help you. It was written by man for man. If you have to hang onto that for your faith then you are not very strong. Wake up and go and look out there, you will find it if you look and get proof this all exists. I cannot deny any longer there is a wonderful life after death, unless you have been very wicked in which case you will have to atone for doing those awful things.

  • Jane Summarsell

    You are so pompous.

  • Jane Summarsell

    They are called Sunday Christians. I just walk away and feel sorry for them. I feel sorry for you to, however if your blind faith helps you then go on with it. So long as it works for you.

  • Rambeast

    An absolutely terrifying event in our society is taking place, and all you people can do is rant about religion. Wake the hell up people.

  • J S

    This law was rescinded due to public backlash. However, it’s just a matter of time before they make some use of those FEMA camps. I was informed by Channel 2 news it was rescinded after I made so much noise about it. I checked it out and found out that was true. However, it’s also becoming commonplace for groups who feed the homeless to be threatened with arrest.

  • pfehrman

    For the non-believers who constantly mock God (which is in the Bible), would actually be astounded of the accuracy of the Bible if they ever bothered to read it. It’s hard to deny something that is so factually based and in fact, we are in real time now with the final moments of the Bible prophecies. EVERYTHING has been accomplished and has come true except the very final moments. Jesus will catch us up, there will be a tribulation (the earth is going through the birth pains right now, earthquakes, signs in the heavens, volcanos, wars and rumors of wars, all the nations coming against Israel, etc.,etc. You have to be living under a rock to not have heard all that is going on that matches what the Bible told us would happen. And to continue to deny when there is more evidence in favor of God and His holy word than there is in the blind faith that He doesn’t exist and that there is no salvation; in fact it takes more faith to not believe than to believe…especially now.

  • Mike

    Like stray dogs taken from the street.

  • puromexicanpower

    Pinches cristianos locos. Y luego además, gringos…son igual de radicales y peligrosos que los musulmanes. No se hagan pendejos…In Gold you Trust…!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    This is new age philosophy, not Christianity. The two are not compatible.

  • Diane Schmidt

    lmao

  • SC_Patriot

    A friend of ours was in law enforcement in South Carolina (where we live) and he constantly battled the homeless. The ones that he fought were violent and dangerous and that is something all of the smiley glad hands aren’t bringing up. There are areas, where we live, that aren’t safe to go by one’s self, especially as a woman, due to the homeless population. People that work at the homeless shelters have nothing but problems. So whilst I may agree that the methods are suspect, the problem is very real and one that needs to be dealt with.

  • Diane Schmidt

    EXACTLY!!! ^5 Sebastian!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    You are very, very wrong. Nothing sinful will enter the kingdom of heaven. If we could save ourselves, there would be no need for a savior. There IS no other life – this is the only chance we get.

    I utilize my conscience in trying to separate the truth from myth and flat out lies on this thread. Whether that is good or not is not for you to decide. God is the judge of souls, and yes He WILL judge them.

    And pray tell, what exactly is the kind of afterlife Christians talk about? Because I guarantee you my thoughts on the subject do not at all line up with your interpretation of ‘what Christians think’.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I could not help laughing at this. LOL

  • Diane Schmidt

    and people on this planet are SANE?
    not anymore!!!!
    time to buy land on the moon!!

  • Diane Schmidt

    death is but a transformation from one plane to the next…

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    What is an illogical fallacy? My argument or appealing to consequence?

    I agree I’m fighting a losing battle in terms of trying to convince those determined to believe in nothing, or in a mishmash of everything like new age is, of the truth of God if that’s what you mean. That doesn’t mean I’m going to quit fighting though.

  • Cheryl

    Justin, I did not call you anything. You may call me anything you want. The things I say, is because I have seen God at work in my life. I have experienced His love for me. Sometimes it is not the great big things that can speak the volume of a little act. God has provide for me all the way down to a friend calling and inviting me for pizza. With my God all things are possible. I pray that one day you find the peace and assurance of Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. I am a nurse and I have watched true, Godly Christians die, and on the same token I have watched people that were not saved and did not profess Jesus as their Savior as they were dying, screaming, trying to get away from the faces they were seeing. They complained about their feet burning. The medical term for this condition is “Terminal Agitation”, but I term it as dying and seeing the gates of Hell opening for them. This is my take on life, Justin Green, I pray that before it is to late, you will come to know the love of God through His Son Jesus Christ. You have a Blessed Day.

  • libssukkalot

    …as in the days of Noah. Soon the Middle East will erupt as well.

  • merdenoire

    Better choose prison — at least you have “rights” there as a prisoner.

  • merdenoire

    It is now moral to shoot any law enforce official who tries to force you into a FEMA Camp.

  • Anonymous

    There’s no sense in using logic with religiosity-minded people. They don’t question any of their self fulfilling premises, like the Heaven/Hell & punishment/reward dichotomy. Any system of punishment/reward is suited for the behavioral training of children & animals, not sentient beings.

    SANTA CLAUS IS COMING TO TOWN!

  • Politics Noesbueno

    Randolph, With all due respect, sir, Christianity is faith-based, so why worry about tying to prove or disprove the existence of deity. Just go ahead and believe the teachings of the Bible, live your life within your Christian standards, and be happy. What I think is sad, is that just as many people who call themselves “Christian,” unwittingly “get people off their faith” as you say, by condemning those who don’t fit their self-imposed standards. Remember – God says the most important thing a Christian can do is to “love one another and feed His sheep” (paraphrased). If you believe that God created the world, then you must also realize that we are ALL God’s sheep… ALL… so love us, please. And while you’re at it, maybe you could be kind, gentle and non-judgmental of us — like a living, breathing testament of the truthfulness of what you profess to believe.

  • James Barnhart

    Amen!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    As well, prior to coming to Christ, I had ‘experiences’ that I now see to be the result of an overactive imagination, the darkness of sin, and the desire to believe in anything that would allow me to maintain my selfish lifestyle, yet still believe in something. Be careful of those.

    I am not brainwashed either. I have been through everything from Buddhism to witchcraft and after long searching found the truth in Christ. I’m not a sheltered Christian with no experience of the dark side of the world like the outside seems to think every Bible believing Christian is. I did not grow up in church. I did not live a sinless life and rub it in people’s faces. I attended no Bible camps and few vacation Bible schools. I have even walked the path you speak of, the one that believes in such things as karma and reincarnation, and found after extensive research to be not only abhorrently false, but dangerous because it appeals to the side of man that wants to glorify themselves.

    No, I’m not brainwashed. I’ve not just seen the darkness of this world from the outside; I’ve LIVED it. I’ve justified it. I’ve even preached it, and I’m not proud of that either. I’ve seen this world in all its gristly glory, and lived through it (barely sometimes). I’ve done the research and homework, and come to the conclusion that God irrefutably, undeniably exists and the Bible is the true word of the Lord. That is not brainwashing. That’s life.

    And there is no need to feel ‘sorry and sad’ for me. I’m happier than I’ve ever been, but I do appreciate the concern.

  • Cheryl

    Erin in Luke 16: 19-31 Talks about the rich man who is died and asked for Lazarus to go warn his family, because he went to Hades and talks about being tormented. It does not say they will be tortured, it says tormented. We have a choice while we are alive, when we die our fate is sealed. Hopes this helps some. Be Blessed

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    There is a difference between pompousness and faith. He is merely stating his beliefs. And he’s exactly right.

  • merdenoire

    Please take down the Russian RT and Mooslum Press-TV spots. These are anti-American news sites with zero credibility.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I wonder the same thing of atheists. Why if they believe in nothing is it so important to hijack every single comment a Christian makes stating their belief in the power of God and turn it into a philosophical debate? This article was about FEMA camps, and because one person posted a picture according to her beliefs, an onslaught of vitriolic arguments to the contrary just HAD to be posted. Had that not happened, we would not be involved in this debate.

    There is nothing judgmental in stating the truth.

  • MSMsucks

    Wierd that Glenn Beck denied the existence of FEMA camps a few years ago.

  • MSMsucks

    or back flipped anyway…

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I’m not exactly sure what you’re applying that comment to, but hey, if you want to go live in a dust bowl that changes approximately 580 degrees between night and day, go for it.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Thank you. I’ll look that up and read it more.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Thank you

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Look up the holy trinity. They are one and the same.

  • Matt Mark

    “if you change the wording slightly”

    like if you change the word ‘bogus’ to ‘really amazing’ and ‘retards’ to ‘smart people’.

    Sure.

    Meanwhile, there are no FEMA camps. And you are an idiot of you believe anything you just said.

  • Jahshuewah Villiam

    23

  • Matt Mark

    I tried to make sense of your response, but it’s not written in such a way as to make sense. It’s incoherent :-(

    All I got was you seem to hope that Republicans take over the Senate and POTUS, and that perhaps you are concerned about the homeless and think it has something to do with Obama.

    Sigh.

    I’m stupid for even wading into a discussion on this website. I’m a smart guy, with things to do. No, I didn’t vote for Obama.

    But am I going to act like a complete Bozo now that he is in office? What purpose does that serve? Is this a party politics thing for you? If so I certainly hope you aren’t blindly voting for Republicans. During last decade or so those guys have been immeasurably worse than anything I have seen.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Oh so you think people who believe in karma and reincarnation what to glorify themselves? Obviously you didn’t look in the right places. I see Christians around everywhere who are always pontificating about how their way is the only way and being pompous about it and putting the other things down as “the devil”. There is nothing worse than a pompous Christian who is glorifying themselves unless it’s from a certain Middle Eastern religion or ideology. How dare you put me down as coming from a false side. Obviously you didn’t look into it in the right way. The most peaceful people I have known on this earth have been people who have the same beliefs as me. I do not find that in Christians, definitely not in Muslims and many other religions. I am not in a religion, I am a very spiritual person who believes in spirituality rather than a dogma of religion. I rarely talk about my beliefs with anyone unless they know me well or I know they either believe what I believe or are very tolerant to it. Is that glorifying myself? I think you are the one that wants to glorify himself. But please get on with it, it’s a free world. However please stop trying to tell us that it’s is the only way. I believe all religions are just different paths to the same thing being God. Is that wanting to glorify myself? And if you are happy the way you are fine, but please don’t preach. It is offensive to some of us. And there is nothing I hate more than pompous offensive religious people who do so like to tell everyone else how wrong they are.

  • Matt Mark

    So you think there are FEMA camps, and you believe this article? LOL

    This website is garbage. The FEMA camps hoax is a complete fabrication that has been perpetrated on you. There is no such thing.

    That is the problem with you. You are too willing to believe stories that are bogus, debunked and well known to be complete and utter bullshit.

    You form your opinions around rumors instead of facts.

  • Politics Noesbueno

    The thing about truth is that it’s relative, and
    in light of this government takeover, I think it’s
    likely that many people are kind of easily rattled and then get off topic. Mud slinging from either direction is fruitless, don’t you think?

  • Rachel Cook

    Well we see people all worried and out there against God, but if he is not real then why waste your time and efforts? Do you have the desire to fight against Santa, against the Easter Bunny or any other fictional Character? Would you be as out spoken again Big Bird as God? No because they do not threaten your beliefs they do not make you question their reality. Deep down you feel differently about God than other characters you know are fiction. What is that old saying about you protest too much? If in your gut you believed God was as unreal as the others then you would not give him any more attention than you do them…. Sure you choose not to believe – but you can not force yourself not to deep down question.

  • Rachel Cook

    Very true Mike, they will not follow out of fear – that is not faith. WE need to show our faith by our actions and behaviors – they will feel the love of God as they see it at work in our lives.

  • waltinseattle

    Now that we have settled the afterlife…what to do about life under caesar?

  • Jane Summarsell

    How do you know there is no reincarnation? Did God come and tell you? Or perhaps the Bible told you which is just written by man for man. You are pompous too. And how do you know God will judge you? What proof do you have? Did he tell you? But please be my guest and believe what you want. You will find out one day you weren’t necessarily right. In the meantime I shall believe what I want because I have had proof of it that I cannot deny. Death is a mere passing over of the soul or spirit to the other side leaving the physical body behind. Of course I know Christians think my ideas are the work of the devil and so be it. I don’t really give a jot and I’m not giving anymore time over to this, I have other things to do like studying. I don’t wish to debate with people who are pompous about their religions. And religions can be about spiritual things, but not always. You can be spiritual and be religious, but you can be religious and not spiritual. Spirituality is a must.

  • ManTwo

    As I mentioned I have a PhD in political science, from Brown. So if you want to know why what you said is inaccurate I can easily explain it to you.

    But you would need to be capable of listening and making an attempt to understand why no intelligent people consider him a leftist.

    It really is not that complicated, but if you are completely convinced that you have it right and everyone else has it wrong…well there it is. There is no reason to engage and waste any energy on someone who is not willing to learn.

    Why I find you on this website which tries to hoodwink feckless people with hoaxes like this one about FEMA camps probably says it all. Do you believe the FEMA death camp story too? If not, then why are you on this website talking about Hitler.

  • Jane Summarsell

    I’m sorry Erin Owens, I cannot help but laugh when I see what you say. I’m sorry for this too, but I find it ludicrous and feel such sorrow and pity for you. You have blinkers on and unless you take them off you will never find out what is really there right in front of you.

  • Beth Lovell

    One does not simply theorize the non-existence of middle earth.

  • Jane Summarsell

    He is pompous with it.

  • Independent Tom

    Oh, please, the homeless folks who bothered no one were not “rounded up” this was limited to problem folks, usually chronic drunkards and junkies who wave their wang on a public street or cause problems on private property. Not one single one of the mentally ill kooks commenting would hesitate to call the police to remove someone from their property if they were causing problems.

  • Independent Tom

    It is amusing to watch atheists evangelize a faith they cannot prove :-)

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Well, that last statement I can agree with at least.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I admit it. I lol’d.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I happen to find it humorous that you call me religious. I’m anything but. I think the blinders are on the other side, but this seems a fruitless debate. God bless you, and good luck with your studying.

  • Nick

    They’re not doing this anymore. There was public outrage, including police refusing to get on board. You should be hopeful.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/04/columbia-criminalizing-homelessness_n_3866273.html

  • Hammick

    you are one crazy bitch.

  • Larr Slick

    This article is so misleading…we ( SC) have no FEMA camps, we (SC) are not jailing homeless people……What was done was to enforce loitering laws already on the books. This is done by taking those who are loitering to a shelter. Panhandling is illegal in SC and those that practice this are arrested.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Pompous, offensive, religious people? Hmm. I see no self-glorification in my posts; on the contrary, I’ve been trying to give God the glory. If I haven’t, then you’re right that I’ve fallen short of that. So if I’ve come across as pompous, then I apologize for that.

    But I think what offends you is less me and more the ideas that I believe in. I never said that you personally glorify yourself for one thing; I said that the new age movement is based on that idea. Humanism, empowerment, self-searching, etc. That is my honest belief from having been there myself. There is only one way to God, and if that makes me narrow, then so be it. Believe of me what you will. In the end, it makes no difference to me.

    It’s ironic that while you are ‘feeling sorry for me,’ (and simultaneously calling me names), I feel just as sorry for you.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    No need for that. She’s not calling you names.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Perhaps, but reflections of light still give off light. So the argument still stands.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Laugh all you like Erin. If it has lightened your day then I have done some good as laughter is the best medicine in life. Yes you are religious if you believe in the way you are. And no I don’t have blinders on at all, quite the opposite, it’s when I opened my mind to all things I found out what I did. I don’t need you to say “God bless you”, although I know you mean well. God blesses me every day. I was bedridden for nearly 20 years and I am blessed to be almost completely well again. My study is not only freelance journalism, and I’m in my late 60′s, but also about Islam. I am against their fundamentalists and the dreadful things they do in killing people with bombs, guns, cutting their throats or beheading them. I’m going to fight until my last breath against their intended take over of all western countries, and they have said what they are intending to do. I am even going to read the Quran to educate myself although I really don’t fancy it. I will be in danger, I know that. I have already had a death threat made against me. But I’m not scared because I know if I do get murdered I will simply pass over to a better life. And what’s the bet that if they kill someone like me that there will be a dreadful fuss in two countries because I have dual nationality and am a “granny figure”. And perhaps, if nothing else, it might make a lot of people sit up and do something about it more than they are now by sitting on their sofa’s going tut tut. And saying “but of course they can’t take over our way of Government” by being blind to how they intend to do it. And it will work if we don’t stop them. I have studied it and they know how to do it, long term of course. I wonder if you would be as brave as me to give your retirement up to something like that? I am, and I will be taking to the streets with it to lay the foundation down to get people to listen to the threat we in the west face. It may not happen in our lifetimes but our children’s and their children’s are most at risk. I do it to benefit the world, not myself, I have far less before me than behind me, but because I think we all owe it to ourselves and God to try and leave this world a better place than how it was when we came into it. It’s not all about us, us, us. WWII was raging around when I was born, I’ve lived through the whole of the Cold War. Now there is this. However I feel strong enough to fight and fight I will. How about you, as the saying goes, put your money where your mouth is, by getting up and doing something about it. I bet you don’t. I bet you are one of those couch sitters who just watch the TV or tut tut behind your computer except on Sunday’s of course when you must go to church. And deny it’s possible or call it racist or something. There are plenty of white ones of them and they are often the worst jihadists. So I wish you well with your religion. I just hope you can open your mind up a bit and see that perhaps other people are as good as you, or maybe even better, but have their own path to God and it’s isn’t necessarily your way and then live and let live without getting on your soapbox. And no there’s not much point in debating it. I will never become a Christian although I was brought up one. I still love the hymns. I still love being in the peace and tranquility of churches and cathedrals, a good place to talk to your guardian angels who work on God’s behalf, and I intend going to see some of the beautiful cathedrals in Europe after I go back to England to live. I wish you well. We are all entitled to our opinions. In fact I believe we are all entitled to our own beliefs, to live how we want, to live how we want so long as we are not hurting anyone else. Then we need to rethink what we are doing and modify it. It’s all about peace and goodness in your heart. That is what I’m fighting for, for the freedom for all of us to live how we want, to believe what we want and to do what we want instead of being put in a box and being MADE to live a certain life under threat of death. Our freedom will be gone then, for good. I wish you well.

  • Guest

    I’ve read uncountable messages here and the majority of those who commented seem to be in a pissing contest over Christianity. Not one message with a solution to the homeless problem. I don’t have a solution either, and, with unemployment still skyrocketing we will have more homeless. It’s not a pretty picture. Wish I had a solution. I’m trying to look at all sides of this and nothing seems to be the “be all end all”. Is it possible the homeless would like to have a safe place to go. I don’t know. Do you?

  • Tchaser36

    And just what makes you think believers of GOD get their faith from a book?? They read their BIBLE Yes . Who are you to tell others they are foolish in their beliefs ??!!!! Have you ever seen what they have seen with their own eyes ?. Have You ever experienced what they have in the flesh??? Until you do , You need to keep your false predictions to your self..

  • Jane Summarsell

    I do not call people things like that nor do I swear and use expletives. You are rude and uneducated, that much is obvious. They do say only the uneducated feel the need to call people nasty names. I’m not crazy, not at all. But you are low and vile to speak to someone like that. You will get nowhere in this life by calling people such names as (excuse my language) “one crazy bitch”. You don’t know me. You don’t know where I come from or who I am and I bet you would be too scared to ever stand up for anything in this life that might harm you back because you stand up to it. In other words you would cower down if threatened by bulllies. You are all full of words anonymously behind a computer. One wonders what you would say if we were face to face and out in public. Especially to people who are known to kill and kill and kill. What would you do then? Run like hell I suppose.

  • Jane Summarsell

    LOL

  • Jane Summarsell

    Then show it in your actions. All I see of Christians is Sunday Christians who believe by going to church on Sundays they can atone for all their sins during the other six days. I invite you all to make this world a better place to live in, without spouting off about your religious beliefs.

  • sick.and.tired.

    Stop fighting! That’s part of the problem! No matter what you believe this still effects you, we have to pull together on this or they win. They are taking your fellow man and you want to talk religion/or lack thereof? We can’t add any more opposition, what’s going on right now is enough! Please be tolerant of differences… at this point we can’t really afford to anyway.

  • Linda

    So picking on the homeless is fine but not on the illegal immigrant??!! Talk about Nazi Germany…and isnt the jail over-run? Arent they getting rid of prisoners because of that? So why not put them in FEMA camp instead…

  • raptorep

    It’s historic fact Jesus existed, not only from the Bible, but Roman records and the census mentioned in the biblical account of his birth. The Bible has also been used to find ancient cities and other sites of historic value by archaeologists. Even Jesus’ trial is recorded in the records of the Roman court as well as dozens of first hand reports by spectators of his ministry and crusifiction, unrelated to the apostles or biblical accounts. Do some research for a change or you’ll look more like an uninformed moron.

  • Jane Summarsell

    They obviously haven’t seen what I’ve seen and experienced or they would open their minds a bit more. And the Bible is the central part to Christianity, I should know having been brought up in it. They just lost me when they said Jesus was the son of God and then in the next breath he was God. At 14 I said well he can’t be both so I’m sorry I’m out of this. But they could still believe in Christianity as well as what I believe, the two can live side by side. The Spiritualist Church I go to is a Christian one and the minister there is the loveliest person you could wish to meet. He never preaches hell and damnation. I believe Christ may have been on this earth and been a very good person who was trying to make people better people by preaching to them. However he is not God, he is not the son of God, he was just a very spiritual being who came here to try and make us see what is right and good. And the people who wrote the Bible were rather uneducated people from yonks ago who wrote it from a very uneducated point of view. But there are so many closed minded people who have had said to them “you must believe, have faith”. That is blind faith and I need more than blind faith to believe in something. I have to have it proved. And it has been. And I don’t have “false” predictions. I don’t believe in a judgement day and all that stuff in the way the Christians do. I believe man said it in the Bible to scare other men into being better people because some of them need to be scared into it otherwise they do dreadful things to people. However I do believe we all have to face our actions and have consequences. And I have a right to believe what I want, to know I have had proof and no one else has the right to say I’m totally wrong and “will see the light” or am a “crazy bitch”. I don’t say that to you. I just wish you all well on your other path to God. For we are just on different paths to God. I really must get on now. Lovely talking to you and may you always feel happy in what you have chosen, just try to have a little bit more tolerance to others who are on a different road to you but are people of peace and love. That is the essential thing. Goodbye everyone, I wish you all well and I hope you do remain happy with what you have chosen as your path in life. Just as I am happy with what I have. Most of all I thank God every day for giving me good health back, something we take for granted. But after 20 years in bed you really, really do appreciate it. And on my road to God there is a reason I had to go through that. Does yours tell you that? Is there a purpose in someone being bedridden for almost 20 years? I don’t think so, but in mine there is but I’m never going to try and explain it for your minds are just too closed. Best wishes.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    LOL! You have got me so far wrong I can’t help but laugh. As it turns out, I attend services on SATURDAY when I am able, which isn’t often as I too am bedridden. You see, the Bible says the SEVENTH day of the week is the sabbath, not Sunday. I don’t follow any particular denomination either, because a) the Bible clearly states not to make denominations, and b) not one of them follows the Bible in its entirety. The picture you’re painting of me as a religious zealot is a false one, but as I said, that’s not important here.

    As to comparing me to a Jihadist, my goodness! How far out there can you get?! The last time I checked, believing that Christ is the way the truth and the life does not make one a murderer. I haven’t threatened you with death because you don’t believe the same things as I do. That’s ludicrous!

    And bringing race into it too? How do you know I’m white? It so happens that I am as America is mostly white, after all – statistical fact, not racism – but what on earth does that have to do with anything at all?

    As for your implications that I’m trying to force you into becoming a Christian, no one is making you do anything. I merely stated the truth. If you don’t want to accept it, it’s your choice.

    GOD BLESS YOU and have a nice day.

  • raptorep

    Jesus’ has been confirmed by historic and archaeological record of not only existing, but have many unrelated authors mention Jesus as a healer and prophet. Whether you believe is His message or not, logical, and historical evidence proves he existed. I find more often then not it’s the non-religious who are illogical in debate, resorting to nonsensical name calling and insults in the face of facts.

  • littlefeet

    Try looking into the archaeological digs in Israel and then talk about what you know nothing on, but what you believe. There are historical facts to support what was written. Of course your mind is already made up so education on it is useless to you.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    “me thinks thou dost protest too much” is what you’re going for I think. It’s a convoluted version of the line: “the lady doth protest too much, methinks” spoken by Queen Gertrude in Hamlet.

    And that line is so applicable here.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    If this is the only experience of Christ you’ve seen, you haven’t seen Him.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    This is the winning comment of the day, I think.

  • WeAreOne

    precisely. thank you!

  • littlefeet

    For people who don’t believe in the Bible have never read on the archaeological digs in Israel and the historical references in the Bible to them. You can see scientific proof. You can’t on Evolution which is just others theories.

  • Dan Leidal

    I have seen, and understand both sides of this issue… I don’t claim to know what the proper course of action should be; but these people tend to become a real problem… They will urinate, and deficate in front of retail businesses, damage, steal, and basically ruin the area… They harass the customers, and the public in general… I understand why a city would want to get rid of them… I’m not Mormon, but I do respect how this problem is addressed in Salt Lake City… This is not likely about abusing rights, but in dealing with a huge problem… In this case, they are not going about it in a very righteous way… The other problem is; these homeless will leave the “shelter”, and go back into town because thats what they do… Many of these people abuse substances, mainly alcohol… Oh, and what about the rights of the general public, and the business people who are harmed by these people’s actions??? Perhaps we need more proactive attention on this by the folks who are disturbed by these developments???

  • Teresa Shelton Martin

    They are treating all the same. Not all are homeless for the same reason. Some are Vets that can not handle it outside the military. Some are addicts that need help with addiction. Some were just one paycheck away from being homeless when they lost that paycheck. Some are mentally ill and would be better suited in a different environment. Some are homeless because they are being sexually or physically abused. Or a spouse has cleaned out the bank account and took off. Why and how can they all be put into the same category? I do not want to hear about Church goers. It is the church goers that are suppose to take in these children of The Lord.

  • raptorep

    Middle Earth is the image of us, and the Christian life. The battle for helms deep is almost exactly like the final battle in Medgido from Revelations, and Christ’s return with the saints ending the battle, even the direction Gandolf comes to save them is the same as the biblical account.

  • AXE

    Justin you show your ignorance and hate when you use words like “jip”. Do you know what it means?

  • raptorep

    Your assuming the scripture means a sun, the moon reflects light, but it’s still a light. Also there are multiple modern accounts of people coming back after being dead and documenting as such(Lazarus). Bill Nye has to take a passage, and over-simplify it, in order to “disprove” the bible and match his assumptions.

  • raptorep

    No in reference to context, but I got a not so small hint of sarcasm is bodica’s post however. Song of Solomon, Psalms, and Proverbs are poetry books, Numbers and Judges are example of historical texts, etc.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Oh Erin, I do apologise, I don’t think you have read me right, I never meant to compare you to a jihadist, never at all. NEVER! So please accept my apology if you read it like that. I do not know if you are white, coloured or whatever, nor do I care. You are a human being. I was simply saying that those who call me racist have not looked properly at what I’m doing or listened to me at all and that a lot of jihadists are white. We have them here in Australia and they are in England, where I come from and am returning to. I NEVER meant to put you in that bracket whatsoever. I’m so sorry if it came across that way.

    I’m so very sorry about your illness too. I was like that for years before and after I came out of the bedridden time and I’m just about 95% better now. The doctors say I will never fully recover but I live a good life and can do most things now so long as I pace myself. I know what you are going through from personal experience and it is indeed absolutely horrible. Please never despair though, perhaps one day you will be like me and recover, you never know. While there’s life there’s hope. I used to see people who had recovered and never thought it could be me. Sometimes I felt a bit better and thought I was getting better only to have it, cruelly, back again with a vengeance. I still get lots of pain and strangely if I get severe emotional pain it turns around into physical pain and the doctors have explained to me how that happens.

    Therefore I’m moving for peace’s sake and to get away from a lot of personal problems here but I also see the other problems in England and intend fighting against it. That I can cope with. I see some wrongs and I do feel as I have got a second chance I owe it to this world to do everything I can to leave it a better than it is now.

    I’m so grateful for what I do have I never cease to stop and smell the roses, literally, and thank God for what I have now. I say there is one thing better than health and that is to have good health after not having any. And it’s true as you never have a day where you are not grateful for getting so much back.
    As you go to church on a Saturday I do wonder if you are a Seventh Day Adventist. If you are I would like you to tell you this. My son went to a Seventh Day Adventist college. They accepted anyone so long as they accepted them for who they are. I now have a great deal of respect for those people in that religion, they are very kind, peaceful and never pushed their religion onto me or my son although they did have religious education. They are marvelous Christians. They do live by what they believe all week long.

    My next door neighbours are Catholic. They were very loathe to tell me in the beginning so I pushed them gently when I knew them better and because of all the child abuse that has come to light in the church they didn’t want to tell me as they have been spurned because of it. We now get on famously, me with my beliefs and them with theirs. They are great friends of mine and neither of us tries to change the other, we accept one another as we are. I shall miss them when I move. I know many people from other races and I do not care whether they are black, blue, brindle, white or purple with knobs on top as the English saying goes. It’s what’s inside them that counts.

    A dear English friend of mine is married to an African who was born Muslim but has lapsed however his family are practising Muslims. She is not at all against me in what I’m doing and understands I’m not racist nor do I care about people’s colour. However a friend of mine who won’t listen to a word I say has labelled me a racist because I’m against the Jihadists and fundamentalism. She has kicked me to the kerb and yet she refuses to hear me out, just getting angry and flying off the handle, and I never thought she would be like that. She’s also a feminist and is anti sex abuse and yet she calls me racist for being against Female Genital Mutilation and child brides. It hurts but I do not have enough time left in this world for me to waste my time on her if she won’t listen to my side of it even if briefly. It’s her problem.

    I only mentioned the colour of some of the jihadists to you to say I wasn’t against a race, but an idelogy, not their colour. So please don’t take it that I put you in that bracket. In the long lost past Christians have gone to war over religion but not in recent times. So I do hope I have got things straight now. I realise you are against murder and things like that. But the jihadists believe it’s their best way to get into heaven. I totally disagree. So please don’t take offence, I never ever put you in that bracket. I have just seen your latest post about not having seen Christ. I have no wish to as I have seen so much else. My beliefs have been proved to me time and time again. I, personally, can never dispute it. You have yours. But you have been pushing it to me somewhat whether you want to believe that or not. I did not tell you mine until much further down the line. I don’t believe in trying to convert people to your beliefs, I believe we get much further by just being a good example in life but not saying anything at all.

    Another thing I belong to the Theosophy Society. I’m an active member. They have all sorts of religions there and everyone is totally tolerant to them all and never try to push theirs at other people, it is one of the things to not try to push anyone else. They are just seeking spiritual truth. Discussing it, investigating it, reading about it and various things. It is easily one of the most peaceful and loving places I have ever been to. There are parts of it where you cannot join unless you are vegetarian because they believe the higher you get in your spiritual journey the less you feel the need to kill animals to survive as they have feelings and souls too. You may think that’s mad but I don’t. We can agree to disagree.

    When I became a vegetarian 40 years ago I hoped everyone could be one but I never preached. My brother and his family came to stay with us some years later and my two nieces saw how we ate and tasted the food. Both are now off meat, one being a vegan and fights to get all animal things out of other foods. That is how you influence people, by being a good example and not preaching to them. So I know when I die I have left behind four people who have changed or been that way because of me. My two children and my two nieces. I have helped this world in a tiny way.

    I wish you well Erin. I do hope you get better and if your faith helps you to get through then hang on to it. My belief system helped me. I eventually saw a purpose in it all. And when I can see a purpose I can go through awful things and hold up under the pressure. So I do wish you well. And I do so hope you feel much better soon. As I said if anyone understands what you are going through it’s me because I’ve been there.

    And please remember I never intended to call you anything remotely like a jihadist, you showed absolutely no sign of that to me. You just have just pushed your religion a tad too much. We needn’t have known you were a Christian except briefly if necessary. Remember example is the best way. By all means if people ask you to know more about it then you can say, but not until then. Even then with me I’m slow in coming forward and I tell people to read more books, go to more places and find out for themselves whether what I’m saying is true.

    And as I said I so do wish you well and good health for the future. I hope your religion keeps on giving you comfort, but remember what’s right for one is not necessarily right for the other. There is never only one way. Please remember this is by no means a comparison to you. But the jihadists believe that and it’s not right. They want to impose it on us forcibly. I intend doing as much as I’m capable of to try and hold them back from forcing such a thing on our countries in the western world so we still have freedom. They threatened that our very freedom is what will bring us down as they will use it against us. I want freedom to live and believe as we want. Not Sharia Law and Islam. And if you are American you should know so well what they are capable of. I saw the towers in New York coming down as it happened on TV We didn’t really know exactly what was happening at that moment but we soon found out. It has to be stopped for that is what they are threatening to do again and again.

    Good luck.

  • juliams

    Clause??? hahahahahaha

  • juliams

    CLAUSE????? hah!hahahahahaah

  • Politics Noesbueno

    Oh, so you don’t agree that truth is relative? …or that Christians can bring healing to the world by following the teachings of Jesus found in the Bible? Do you assume that I am something other than Christian and therefore feel compelled to disagree with me? With respect from one Christian to another, might I suggest for you, Ms Erin, perhaps a little less thumping and a bit more application. God bless.

  • juliams

    great point!

  • juliams

    It’s not a threat, it’s a promise from the Almighty

  • justacceptyoucannotacceptevery

    That can be argued for both sides. When people have their opinions you cannot force them to see things your way. Just like they cannot force you to see things their way.

  • juliams

    deep down Hammick is truly afraid that he is wrong….fear makes people lash out

  • Jane Summarsell

    Did he come and tell you?

  • Charie

    This is what NAZI means in English: National Socialist German Workers. There were many NAZI bunds in this country before and during WWII. Many well-known people bought into the eugenics theory. I do believe Einstein was one. Dear Al, little did he know that both Hitler and Margaret Sanger believed that the Jews were ones who should be among the missing as a product of eugenics. She, though I’m sure did not believe ion murdering Jews. I found this link after a little googling. It will make you rather sick, I think.

    http://blackquillandink.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/margaret-sanger-quotes.pdf

    The head of the eugenics theory in the US was Margaret Sanger, the beloved founder of Planned Parenthood. She was a woman of many parts, was dear old Maggie.

    I believe little of what has been posted here, not being a conspiracy theorist. Mark, you are as far off as the conspiracy theorists. It’s simply a lie perpetrated and perpetuated by the Dems and it has gotten a lot of traction through people like you. I think you’re a kettle calling a pot black. Oh dear, now I’m going to be called a racist.

  • Jane Summarsell

    I’m not afraid, quite the contrary. No even in the slightest. And fear is not making me lash out. I have not lashed out, just pointed out a few things to people however some of it seems to have been taken incorrectly. I do don’t ever intend to hurt anyone, it’s not right to, however I do take offence at people who keep trying to convert me to their beliefs. I have mine and I never try to make them believe what I do so why should they feel they have the right to preach to me? In a free society, which we are in at the moment, we have the right to believe what we want without others putting us down. Just open your eyes though because there is so called religion in this world, an ideology, which wants to take us over and our freedom will be all lost and we will be back in archaic times if we don’t fight it. That is what we should be debating out, on how to stand up to it, not fighting in amongst ourselves. United we stand, divided we fall. Never forget that.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Have they ever seen what I have? The answer is no. Have they ever investigated it like I have? I bet they haven’t. I have experienced things in the flesh so to speak. I never make false predictions, I say it as I see it but I don’t make predictions anymore than anyone else does. The Christians think the only way into heaven is to believe in Christ. If that’s not based on fear I’d like to know what is. Not that I’m saying Christians are that bad, but the Muslims believe if you don’t believe what they do you will suffer terribly. I believe it is them who will suffer for the dreadful things they do and the atrocities they commit. I think the Christians on on another path to God than me. But they all lead in the same direction, God. If you don’t want to believe that then don’t. I’m allowed to believe what I want without anyone getting on at me. We still live in a free society in the Western World. I just hope it stays that way and we are going to have to fight darned hard to keep it that way.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Thank you Erin. I do not use bad language, I abhor it. I believe we can debate and talk without such language. I never use expletives even when I hit my thumb instead of the nail with a hammer! I just say a rather loud “OUCH”. It’s the way I was brought up and as a very well educated friend has said to me, people who are educated do not feel the need to use bad language to get their point across as they can find so many other ways to do it. So again, thank you for standing up for me.

  • Cher Ann Blohmski

    Gee Jane, who is the brainwashed person here…..maybe you?. How about you believe what you want and I believe what I want and she you can just shut up about your supposed “truth”. Point in fact, I don’t really care what you believe or don’t believe and when you die….oh well, I guess they just put you in a box and put you in the ground for the worms. Good thought isn’t it. Enjoy your pitiful life.

  • Charie

    You can google all you want but if you only look at Liberal left wing websites you’ll never come up with a true answer.

  • Charie

    Good post, snorky! The Dems do that all the time, first they tell you you’re an idiot and then throw out some left wing malarkey at you that you know was whipped up in the latest DNC meeting and the White House.
    Both Russia and Germany had plans of ruling the world which had to be one of the reasons they were fighting all the time. Anyone who thinks Germany was far right has his/her hat on sideways.

  • Cher Ann Blohmski

    Gee Jane…. you really are a internet troll aren’t you. Obviously you have nothing better to do that post crap. Sorry you life is so boring that you feel compelled to pass off your views as the truth that all should live by. What a crock of crap you are trying to sell. Enough said.

  • Jane Summarsell

    No one has brainwashed me, quite the reverse. In fact it’s quite laughable to say I’m brainwashed. I”m not against you believing what you want to believe so long as you leave me alone to believe what I want without speaking to me in a disgusting way. You are just plain rude. I have anything but a pitiful life. I have a very full life now I’m over an illness which kept me bedridden for almost 20 years. Is that pitiful? For if you think it is then perhaps God will strike you down with it too just to teach you a lesson. At least your God might, but not mine. Now you believe what you want and I will believe what I want and let’s get over it. And calm down. You will feel much better if you do. Goodbye.

  • TheBattman

    I think this is horrible… But I have a question:
    What is the answer to the plight (and by some people’s view – blight) of the homeless? We have to face several truths relating to homelessness –

    Some are homeless by no fault of their own. They have, through situations, lost everything. This is a rather small minority of the homeless.

    Some are homeless through their own bad decisions and actions, whether criminal, immoral, and/or their choice to use drugs. Many of these are where they are because they refuse help. They have literally CHOSEN their condition. Likely one of the most difficult class of homeless to do something about.

    Then there are the mentally ill – an unfortunately large number of which are veterans.

    Some are “content” with that lifestyle. Some hate the life, but refuse to do anything to get out of that position. And of course, the mental issues and drug issues suffered by so many. WHAT can society do? Enabling, being sanctuary cities, and massive outreaches in some communities have done little more than encourage the life. We need real answers. But they are fleeting (mostly because there is no stomach for the solutions).

    God can change them from the inside out – and certainly it is the responsibility of believers to try to help these people – but one has to recognize when one is actually making it worse than better.

  • TerryZ

    None of you poor bastards who slam God and Jesus and his birthday the 25th of December (or October depending on where you are from) are getting anything for Christmas. You saved me a ton of work writing x-mas cards and putting them in envelopes then putting on a stamp and traveling to the post office. Whew. I was going to stop my day off just for you – but nope, not now you’ve gone and dun-nit. I’ll have a week before the holidays to relax. Believe that you non believers you. lol

  • Jane Summarsell

    Me a troll? I think you are talking about yourself. You use disgusting language and are as angry as all blazes. Do calm down and think for a while. I do not think other should live and believe as I do. They have been trying to put their beliefs onto me and I don’t like that so I stand up for myself. Simple really. And only uneducated trolls feel the need to use bad language as they don’t know how to put anything else up as you have done. Goodbye and if you write again I shall just delete the whole thing. I have study to do and I must get on with it. I do hope our paths will never cross again. I can see we would not get on and I don’t wish to waste my life on people such as you. You talk filth.

  • Terrie Smith

    Oh, and then try to tell them the absolute stupid story about Noah and his ark. A guy builds a boat so big that it can fit two of every living thing on Earth and carry enough food for every living thing on Earth, and kept them from eating each other….oh, but wait, back then, they thought the Earth was flat and knew nothing of the America’s or Australia and all the other land masses here with living people and animals, plus they knew nothing of microscopic organisms, but somehow got all of those things on the boat as well, because we still have Kangaroo’s, buffalo, and grizzly bears plus viruses amoebas and other organisms. Then he and his family plus every species on the planet, those they didn’t even know about, survived a major flood that went over every land mass. Great story, for a children’s fiction book. Then, what about the beginning. God made Adam and Eve and they had two sons, and those two sons got married….TO WHO???? Also, I’ve just got to know, Jesus was born in the middle east and so he’s not white, despite the pictures of him, but how would his friends have names like John, Paul, and Peter, and his mom have the name Mary. Nobody has names anything like this in the middle east. These are European and American names. And finally, I don’t know why christians are so caught up in this whole hell thing. It’s only mentioned twice in the bible, and one of those times it was in reference to a place outside the city where people took their trash to burn. I am pagan, and I believe in the god and the goddess and I’ve read a book eerily similar to Jesus’ life. It’s called the book of Odin. It predates christianity. I find it interesting that my beliefs are called mythology but the bible is called reality. My point is: The bible has a lot of great stories about morality and sanitation, along with cautionary tales, just as other books have been written, and before that, there were stories that were told by elders to children in order to teach them to live a healthy life, inside and out. There have been many messengers throughout time who have taught the people of their time how to live a healthy life, and instead of simply taking the message of – Treat others how you want to be treated, and be good to yourself and to your neighbors – Horrible wars have prevailed and treatment of others that aren’t just like you are commonplace because of people believing different messengers. Bottom line: It doesn’t matter who the messenger is, did you get the message????

  • littlefeet

    Being a person who has been homeless but now is a property owner they deserve better than being locked up. Some yes but not all. Especially since Obama and his policies caused a lot of the homelessness. Take the illegals and put them there until you send them back.

  • Terrie Smith

    If Jesus was performing miracles and walking on water and stuff, doesn’t that make him a sorcerer?

  • ManTwo

    I have a PhD in Political Science from Brown. I would say that college is largely center right.

    And I’m telling you right now, if you think Hitler was on the Left, you are being willfully ignorant of the facts. The bottom line? He was not a socialist, despite whatever cherry picking of information you have done. His government was not a socialist government, despite whatever cherry picking and misquoting you have done.

    They had currency. Socialist economies do not have currency. Unions were illegal. Socialists and Communists were imprisoned and killed. Successful business people, liberals and intellectuals were rounded up and imprisoned or killed.

    The fact is, Nazi Germany was an anti-bourgeois fascist state. Not dissimilar to someone Hitler admired, Benito Mussolini.

    I’m only on this site because some poor soul, one of my facebook friends, fell for this article and I read it. Then I read the comments. I was so disturbed at the low level of intellect of this crowd that I felt the need to investigate.

    It’s both shocking how uneducated the people on this page actually are, and what a bubble they seem to be living in that allows them to both believe and then turn around and comment in such increadible

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    No. It makes Him divine. There is a difference.

  • ManTwo

    You’ve gotten confused.

    Stalin and Ho Chi Minh were on the Left, Hitler and Mussolini on the Right.

    The spectrum is not for you to recalibrate at will. While there can be some discussion about it, you haven’t made any compelling arguments here.

    In regards to Eugenics, that has nothing to do with the political spectrum. I guess it could relate to the mythical FEMA death camps, if they existed. But they don’t. It’s a hoax.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Actually no, just the first part I don’t agree with. Truth is absolute. The rest of it is true enough, and I assure you I try to apply it as best as I can.

  • Terrie Smith

    The belief of christians hurts us because christians use their beliefs to justify their harm and hatred against other religions, countries, racism, class strata, sexuality, women, women’s health and choices, politics, monetary gains and other freedoms of people.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    I agree with you about the jihad threat. Actually, the book I’m working on now takes place during the first year of that war, and I just got finished doing massive research on Islam and the attacks that day. It was terrible, the attacks I mean, not the research. :(

    No, I don’t subscribe to Seventh Day Adventist beliefs either, though I am closest to them and Messianic Jews in what I believe. I don’t like denominations at all, but that is my personal belief. I have respect for 7Day Adventists because they really do try to follow the Bible from what I’ve seen, but I believe that there should be no division ideally. If you’re Christian, you should be following the same God and that’s the end of it. If not, then… well I don’t know what to tell you about that.

    More or less I was trying to correct the misinformation people were spreading about such as the three wise men (not in the Bible) with my responses. But I’m human too so I’m not infallible to mistakes. I honestly am not trying to be condescending or… umm… can’t think of the word… domineering I guess? Something like that. I just have firm faith in my beliefs and I don’t hesitate to share it.

  • ManTwo

    Stalin and Ho Chi Minh were on the Left, Hitler and Mussolini on the Right.

    Here is a fairly conservative view of the chart. Most put Hitler farther right than this, but it was as far left that I could find for you, within the bounds of any credible individual or argument.

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

    Of course, you can disregard intelligent analysis and continue to spout total nonsense, it’s up to you.

  • G. Girl

    Jane hat’s off to you I could not have said it better. I have walked your walk in my own Life…and have found from my searching the same conclusion as you have found. I couldn’t believe any longer that so much evil could be done by such a Loving God. Jesus taught above all else Love is the most important of these. Many other things I read bothered me…Then I started reading history and other teachers of the world….and also gained so much from, Michael Newton, PH. D. “Journey Of Souls. I think his books should be read by all human beings.
    It is time for these brainwashed people to stop trying to destroy the Earth and end the world…. because they believe when it is destroyed
    the Christ comes back and streets of gold will be their reward.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Just had to add something. You have the unique privilege, if you want to put it that way, of being the first person to have ever called me an “internet troll”. LOL Now I wonder if there is a badge for that. I never usually hang in there talking so much on the internet but I got fed up with so many people hanging their Christian beliefs out to dry on me as I did. We all have a right to believe what we want. We still have a freedom in our countries although if certain people in this world get their way we won’t have it for much longer. And in the process of sticking in here I found out that Erin is actually very sick and it sounds similar to something I had for nearly 20 years. You may not understand this Cher but if you don’t have your health you have nothing. I have been able to clear up some things with him and I have wished him all the best and hope he gets well soon because I do understand personally how difficult it is to be in that position. Even one kind voice in the wilderness when you are so very ill can be valuable and don’t I know it. So I hope he will now understand that he misread what I had said and never called him what he thought I had. I presume now, as he’s on a different time to me, that it is night there for him. I do hope he sees my reply to him when he awakes. As for you, well I am at a loss for words. One thing Erin did was never call me nasty names and actually stood up for me when someone else did. I do not use filthy language, I do not find it necessary to get on in life. My life is anything but boring. Perhaps one day you might see me doing what I want to do. I lead a very busy life and I’m selling my house at present and moving overseas, all on my own, so there is a lot to do. And before you say anything about me doing it on my own, it’s my choice and I have friends and family at both ends. However it’s my choice to go home for the last part of my life. You may ‘troll’ your way around the internet spouting off all your filthy language all you like because you won’t be hearing from me again. Happy trolling!

  • Chris0113

    So, after reading this, I have to ask, aren’t we now just like the Nazis? Aren’t we putting the ‘Jews’ in concentration camps here?
    WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP. I say again, WAKE UP!!!!!

  • theundeadtalkinghead

    shut up stupid….intelligent people are talking here.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Thank you for replying to me Erin. I thought you may have retired for the night because if you are indeed in the US it should be night now there. Although you may be like I was when I was sick and my day all went out of sync and I couldn’t sleep in the night and then felt a desperate need in the day.

    Whatever you believe if it works for you then so be it. I’m not one to question that and as you are sick I know what a sincere belief can mean to you in that time of endurance, and it is endurance top be sick like that. One thing though I learnt a lot from being sick, it’s hard to explain it and it didn’t feel like it at the time, but now I see it.

    As you say we are human and we are not all infallible. And I believe so strongly that most, not necessarily all mind you, religions or beliefs do lead to the same thing being God. I believe a sincere heart and love in your heart are the right things and God knows best who is like that and not like that.

    As for the jihadists, that is not love and kindness in their hearts, quite the opposite. They are chilling and a force to be reckoned with. I have a friend who wishes to be like me and be an activist against it but she had the same illness as I have had and just as she was recovering she has come down with the most dreadful (but unrelated) neurological disorder that has affected her brain stem. Thankfully it is rare but I cannot imagine a person who deserves it less than her. As I have told her the problem will still be there when she is heaps better so to just concentrate on that first. I fear she will never be the same young lady as she was though.

    I understand now what you were trying to say. I’m sorry if I offended you but I do get a little peeved when Christians mock me as something evil when I know it’s nothing but love and peace. I do not mock them but support them if that is the right path for them if they just leave me alone. I will firmly believe until the day I die all religions, peaceful ones that is, are just different paths to the same things being God. And I believe he is the same God everyone prays to, he’s just called different names or thought of in different ways.

    So perhaps where religion is concerned we can agree to disagree. I wish you so much goodness in your life. I do hope you recover and soon. I must admit a computer does help when you are stuck at home and able to at least sit up, for just sitting up can be a problem at times. It brings the world to you and that helps so much. You don’t feel quite so isolated and can keep in touch with people and things on there along with the news on TV etc.

    Take care. I wish you so much for the future. Jane

  • CCG

    Goddamn it Christians. This is about homeless people getting sent to FEMA camps and you’re talking about saving your soul and religion? When will you stop? It’s annoying! Stop making everything about religion!

  • bdgshv

    Think what you want when they put you into one…lol

  • Justin Green

    Actually god (yahweh) does have a father, his name is El. He had many sons and daughters. You can look it up by doing a google search for El, along with Yahweh. While you’re at it, also look up Asherah, Yahweh’s sister-wife. She was “edited” out of the bible. But then again, the bible is perfect so no editing can occur, right christians? lol

  • Justin Green

    /facepalm Demons huh? You know, I know a couple guys, named Sam and Dean. They deal with demons.

  • saharagold

    This same thing happened in Dallas in 1984 when the Republic National Convention was in town. Now I lived in Dallas for 10 years while I was in grad school, and I lived there at the time. Dallas has this sense of shame because of the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963 in their fair city, and they are bound and determined that a similar incident will NEVER happen again there. The Dallas Police Department was in charge of the security arrangements for the convention, and one of the measures they took was to get all the homeless off the streets. The homeless mentally ill they moved to treatment facilities. (I worked with the homeless mentally ill in Dallas at the time). We noticed that homeless people who were NOT mentally ill were caught up in that dragnet and hospitalized. I’m not sure what they did with the other people. Perhaps they moved them into shelters. At any rate, the city streets were free of the homeless while the convention was in progress, then after it was over, we had LOTS of discharges all of a sudden.

  • Justin Green

    I laughed out loud at that one. lol

  • Justin Green

    Here here! Well said.

  • Dan Leidal

    Like I said, I fully understand both sides… It appears that the city govenment here is going after the “street people”… Those who choose to live that life, and could care less about the rights of others… I have seen these people in southern California actually destroy family businesses… As for folks who lost everything due to misfortune, they are a completely different problem; one that deserves all the help and compassion imaginable… People whe “fell down” usually still respect others… Remember; those “homeless” people have the option of departing that municipality, and avoiding this problem altogether… They seem to have little trouble wandering down into Florida in the middle of winter…
    Yes, I would round up all the illegals, and send them back home, including those who over stay their visas… I would also confiscate all their property and money, to use for enforcement and repatriation expenses…

  • Jane Summarsell

    Thank you for letting me know you understand. I have researched everything over many, many years, in fact around 40 years now of more. I do not believe God can be behind so much evil, he is a God of love and peace. I shall try to get the book you mentioned about, it sounds like the sort of thing I would like to read.

    As you say the brainwashed people are trying to destroy the earth and we only have one. We destroy it and we have nothing left. I don’t believe Christ will come back as they do, however I do believe that perhaps there was a man called Jesus Christ who came to this earth to help men to be more peaceful towards each other but because of their lack of education back then they viewed him as coming from God or God himself. Christ only preached good things and to be kind towards one another. Not to kill and hurt people.

    Now though my greatest concern is the jihadists and fundamentalism. I am almost completely well now after at least 20 years of illness and what life I have left and energy I intend to use towards trying to do something constructive about holding them back from our Western countries so we can keep our freedom. They threaten that they will actually use our freedom of speech and our welfare systems and many other things against us to gain control over all of us because their way is the only right way. And that Sharia Law is the only way. I do not want to live like that nor do I want any of the future generations living like that.

    Now I’m older I may never actually see it in my lifetime but I owe it to the world and the generations coming on to try and lay down a foundation for them to keep up the fight whilst we still can, before it spreads even more and becomes harder to overcome. They are already trying to take over Britain and Europe, things are bad there.

    So I’m returning home to England to get into the fight. I had always said, in fact I promised myself when I was 19, that I would spend my latter years there never thinking it might be for something like this. But I had also said very strongly if ever my country was at war or under threat I would return home and fight for it. I’m going back for both reasons now. One voice alone will not solve this problem however many, many voices raised against them can win it. The more we can get the better it will be and if my small voice helps then that is just great. My life will have been worth something.

    So my house is up for sale and I hope it will soon sell and I can be on my way. If it weren’t for my spiritual beliefs I’m not sure I would have the strength and will to do this without getting awfully scared. And in spite of the threats I don’t feel one iota of fear about it strangely and I’ve already had one threat on line about it. One person has already stepped down from it, they think under constant death threats to him, his wife and children and also the establishment, the police and possibly MI5. The governments will not listen. But many things have been like that in history. even the suffragettes had to march in the streets and ended up being arrested, thrown in jail and all sorts. But they won in the end. Sometimes in the morning I feel overwhelmed by it but then I think back to my parents generation and how they had to go through 6 years of WWII and how they must have woken up and felt terrified about what they had to face each day but just had to get up and get going again. That’s if some of them had houses to go back to or relatives etc. had not lost their lives. And many did lose their lives. It kept our freedom, a hard won freedom and we can do it too, I really believe that.

    So all this talk about who’s right and wrong with religions isn’t really the main issue. Our freedom is at risk to debate such things and we have to agree to disagree however when it comes to Islam I won’t bend. I don’t believe all of them are quite like they say they are but you have to weed them out from the rest. In the meantime I know that those people who blow people up in suicide bombings etc. are not going to a nice place. They will have heaps to atone for, if they ever can.

    Now if any people are brainwashed, which I have been accused of being, it’s some of them. They are into brainwashing big time starting from when their children are so little. I consider that child abuse. As I do FGM and other things done to young girls such as breast ironing. Oh well, there’s heaps to do, heaps to learn. I shall get off the world from time to time and do the things I just love doing in England with all it’s history, wind down, and then get back into it again and all the while my spiritual beliefs will be holding me up. If I lose my life through it then I know I will be going to a better place and it will not have been in vain. For if they kill a “granny figure” it will hit the press big time, especially in Britain and Australia, both places I have citizenship in. So as I said it will not be in vain. And I will be in a better place quite safe from it all.

    I wish you all the best and thank you for your understanding, and also thank you about the book. I will try and get it asap. Sincerely Jane

  • Justin Green

    There is no ‘death’ only transformation into other life. Your body is 100% recyclable. And what ever decides to use it, you will become a part of.

  • Justin Green

    Sean bean, the poor man, he’s only survived one movie that I know of.

  • Jane Summarsell

    You are so right Justin. Our soul or spirit or whatever we call it lives on in another place, we just shed our body which if we grow to an old age because it’s worn out, or through illness, and move on to a good place. But we are eternal spirits.

  • Justin Green

    Correct! And the indoctrination of children. Those nations that live without religion are less violent nations.

  • Charie

    OMG, you believe in the “Big Magic al Party Switch” don’t you? Be still my heart! You didn’t have enough intestinal fortitude to come right out on say it because it’s so ludicrous That makes your party racist free in your mind. Too funny. Who was the old fart who sat in the Senate for about 300 years on the Democrat side? Golly, could it have been KKK Byrd?
    Who was Bull Connor or George Wallace or Orval Faubus? They must have been Republicans, right? WRAWNG!!! They were dyed-in-the-wool Democrats! They were standing in doorways to schools forbidding tiny black children to enter or turning hoses and dogs on young black people.
    Let’s see now, who sent the Federal Marshals to Little Rock to make sure a young black man was allowed to enter and attend College. JFK? No, it was Republican President Ike Eisenhower. Who put through LBJ’s Civil Rights act? It was Republican Senator Dirksen. Who fought against all the Civil Rights acts until they were finally forced to accept them? THE DEMOCRATS! (I know you love caps) And Al Gore Sr. was among them. And there was civil rights legislation that was passed by Republicans with not one Democrat vote! It’s history. Read a history book sometime that hasn’t been revised by leftist so-called historians.
    You Liberals will believe anything farfetched that your “leaders” tell you. At least Republicans and Conservatives can find out what they want to believe on their own. The GOP sure isn’t telling them this conspiracy stuff they believe. You Libs know a lot but it’s all wrong. Sheesh!

  • Charie

    By that time, Hitler had already been dropping bombs on Jollie Old England so I do believe the Western World outside of Germany itself perhaps, would have applauded the act. Too bad Hitler’s own officers weren’t able to pull it off.

  • Charie

    This is where Matt puts his fingers in his ears and sings, “Lalalalalalalalalala” as he exits the playing field.

  • Charie

    Keep on bragging, buddy boy. I think you’re living in your mother’s basement.

  • Charie

    Except when he gets his Mussolini on!

  • Charie

    Nobody is actually sure of when Jesus was born. Also the day of his birth is commonly known as the 25, not the 24th. The 24th is the Eve before Christmas.

  • Watch Them Fall On Their Faces

    There are dozens of US Supreme Court cases on the right to work, to live where one pleases, and the right to interstate travel that – can be used to bring a class action suit against the city of Columbia city council members in both their official and personal capacities. The city acted on very bad legal advice. But that does not exclude them from responsibility. There are also criminal statutes that likely can be utilized to send a strong message to these idiots in office, statutes that will put them behind bars. As it is well written, ignorance of the law is no excuse. They, and the city of Columbia tax payers, will pay dearly for this mis-conduct, I am sure.

  • Charie

    It’s called parental teaching, something schools are supposed to be doing instead of indoctrinating the young in this country!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    The Bible does.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Welcome! One may not agree with your ideas on God, but that doesn’t mean they need to be nasty about it. We’re all (I think) adults here.

  • Art Swart

    So, you do not believe that Man was created equal? Keep paying your Taxes to your Masters until, one day you wake up and realize, man why do I feel like such a slave! It’s because you are, to the “Gods of the Flesh”! So either serve to the one True God, or be controlled by the “Gods” = Big Brother! My belief is “Death” is inevitable! But do you believe in “Another Life after death”? Absolutely! That’s what gives some of us “Moral Principals and Authority”! It “All” comes down to our beliefs my Friends, even the “System” is built on beliefs!

  • bloop

    Propaganda and mass indoctrination. Read some history.

  • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

    Hey HamDICK, Go suck a dick! Fucktard! LMAO!

  • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

    And he also eats dicks!

  • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

    You are a disgusting FUCKTARD! Worms would avoid your scank ass!

  • Sky King

    The HOMELESS today… Which group is next??? Let me get this straight… They can round up homeless people, many of which are military veterans, and inter them into “FEMA CAMPS”, but they can’t round up Illegal aliens and send them back where they came from. Something dreradfully wrong with that picture.

  • Dave

    Why are these comments all about religion?
    I don’t believe the topic of this article has anything at all to do with religion…

  • g girl

    Blessings in your Journey and I am thankful that you are in a place of knowing to take a stand and try with all your might to help these girls and women that are so victimized…may Spirit keep you safe in your task you are undertaking, I do not argue at least I try not to but I can only here so much before I have to speak. Ya know if all the spouting on here would change to the fact that our Governments and Police, City officials, and sheeples, (mind the law no matter if they tell you to kill your neighbor kind of people) are scooping up and putting our people who need our help the most into pens with razor wire …Prison Camps…People!!! We’ve been wondering what these prison camps were being built for…and rail road cars with chains and shackles. Places with massive vaults like mass graves it was all done in loom of prep for some natural disaster. I think it is starting with the people who’s homes were foreclosed on who haven’t been able to find work and their unemployment has run out…finding themselves down and out and on the street. Along with our Veterans who breathed in Uranium while shooting shells overseas at innocent people children, women, and men …and yes some bad guys too. Only to come back and find that their country promises at recruiting were full of Shit. Now they can’t get a job and the Uranium is eating their brains and they are going insane because of it. Then you have your alcoholics that have disease an are too weak to put a cork in the bottle for one reason or another. Drug addicts that have only money to buy their next fix. And a few that are sick of society and want no part of playing the game. This is the topic we should be talking and not what our God is to us….and a debate on the Bible is it real or mans/Governments/Church’s way to control the masses if you study your Roman Catholic History…not the bible…you may find your own answer to he questions. Any Way These Caged up Fellow Americans need Some Good Neighborly Americans to come to there aid. Instead of feeding the corporations with all your cancer donations…when the cure is being suppressed for profit. Help these Poor down on their luck people out…they should be helped not caged. Open your Eyes…it is not My God, Our God, Your God….When Moses asked God his name at the burning bush He said…I AM….Yes ….I AM….was the answer. We are to walk in KINDNESS and Help the person next to you at all times…. Open your hearts and Minds….It is these People looking at Razors on barbwire we are talking about. Forgive me my Heart took over…hopeful it is read by others I started talking to the Rest of America…I reckon. Blessing in your walk….<3

  • Jane Summarsell

    I will enlarge on something I said a little about before. I have a friend, who is a psychiatrist and very well educated. He says that only mentally unstable people or ones that are badly educated feel the need to swear and say very back language. Which bracket do you come from?

  • Jane Summarsell

    Thank you for your lovely reply. I totally agree with you. We came on here because of the dreadful things about the homeless in the US and then it’s turns into a rather heated debate about who’s wrong and who’s right regarding their religion. It matters not at all what we believe to do with God. What matters is that these poor people, who probably no fault of their own, are homeless and then being turned into criminals for being just that and treated so badly. It’s plain disgusting. They need help not the rest of us debating about God. What is happening to these people is the criminal thing, I almost couldn’t believe what I read and I felt so terribly sorry for them and wish I could do something. The wrongs in this world are just so awful some days it’s overwhelming about mans cruelty to man. People call bad people animals but animals don’t behave like that, only humans do. As you say so many veterans are treated so disgustingly too, people who have put their lives on the line for the rest of us. Don’t any of you other than g girl care about this? Can you not stop calling people names and putting them down? Is that more important than mans inhumanity to man? I don’t know where you are all coming from but it’s no wonder this world is in such a mess with people like you around. I just despair some days, I really do despair. In many ways we are no better than cavemen, there seems to be no civilisation, no compassion, no live and let live, no help for the people who are hurting or down on their luck. Just murder, mayhem and because we are sitting behind computers where anonymity can be had filthy insults. I have to leave this, to be honest dealing with the fundamentalists seems almost better than having to deal with this. And that’s really saying something.

  • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

    I was not talking to you! If you want to find out what I am well get on your knees and I will give you a real pearl necklace! ;)

  • Jane Summarsell

    I shall treat you with the contempt you deserve… ignore you in future you filthy human being. And I have several REAL pearl necklaces thank you. They actually come from the sea.

  • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

    OOOH! Talking dirty? I like that! You know what they say about pearl necklaces? The hard ones and the liquid ones are both SALTY!

  • billy real

    off topic?? i’ll say.
    I had to scroll all the way back to top and re-read the article again to make sure I wasn’t on the wrong page.
    reguardless of ones beliefs or religion….for we as human beings to allow this to happen to people in general,homeless or not…is a travesty. and a for certain discending downward spiral for us all as a society.

    people fall on hard times…..it happens….and is happening more everyday

    …. it can happen to us all.
    but to put homeless people in FEMA/internment concentration-type camps is wrong. …and could be the beginning of the end for us all.
    we already have an overcrowded prison population.
    and I guarantee…some if not all people are related to or know someone or will soon find out first hand in coming years what it’s like to be homeless or will fall on hard times….that being said …two words: “glass houses”

    our current debt that is in the trillions is not because we are helping our own…but because it is being misused with foreign policy and relations. which has put us all in danger.

    we need to be all on the same side….not like how our government want us:

    “divided” ….whether it be…he believes this or she believes that….

    same goes with politics…..we are all divided….all the while its business as usual for those political crooks that are suppose to represent the public as a whole….and they surely don’t…but their own agenda or the corporations they bid for….and has been this way for decades.

    I think we all have good hearts and mean well or have the potential to.

    I care not what one believes as long as they are true/righteous/and good to all.

    stop the division / find solutions / work together / and we all be for the better.

    we need to stay on this subject…”FEMA Camps: City to Exile the Homeless; It’s not a Conspiracy Theory Anymore
    cause if this is true……IT WILL EFFECT US ALL.

  • Jane Summarsell

    No I don’t actually, but then I have never mixed with filthy minded people like you. I don’t come from the gutter, I just step over it and all who are in it. Like you.

  • disqus_ffJw1TiF6G

    I don’t come from the gutter, I just say it like it is and you need to get that stick out of your ass and insert it elsewhere! Please pass the Grey Pupon?

  • https://www.facebook.com/mother.should.i Mother, should I trust the gov

    It is criminal to not register with the state, per both parties. Reap what you sow.

  • Jane Summarsell

    We all need to read this and act upon it. We need to raise our voices collectively to the heavens about the dreadful things going on in this world and the things that are being threatened. It’s not too late for those… not yet anyway.

  • Politics Noesbueno

    The Bible is absolutely subject to interpretation – thus over 20,000 or so Christian denominations worldwide. You have every right not to agree about that, but I would like for this exchange to end now; no offense intended. Take care.

  • Sarah De Weese

    Well we all know where your going…….. I guess its true when they say, The devil comes in all kinds of shapes and sizes…. So how about shutting the hole in your face

  • Politics Noesbueno

    Well said, Bill. I completely agree with everything you said. We are all in big trouble. Reading this article, I’m wishing that there could be another way to provide beds and shelter for all homeless people that didn’t involve incarceration.

  • Glen Saunders

    Justin Green prove your words or shut your mouth.

  • DD

    What the hell do any of these comments have to do with this article? This is about removing people’s rights, not GOD! No wonder why the world is falling apart. This has NOTHING to do with religion!

  • ManTwo

    LOL

  • bikerdogred1

    At least SC is doing something about it more then anyone else is,it is getting out of hand.

  • john

    You free patriots should be cheering. You won’t have to worry about those bums bugging you for money so they can buy beer.

  • snorky neederecker

    OMGESS Susan……. you’re right!!!!! It sounds EXACTLY like this administration.. and they won’t stop until it’s done. :(

  • snorky neederecker

    Erin you are 100% correct!!

  • snorky neederecker

    The Christians think the only way into heaven is to believe in Christ. <<< that is 100% correct, Jane, that is what the Bible teaches. In many places, all over the Bible, this is said…And if you go look at testimonies of people who have died, thousands of them you can find – go to youtube, look them up, watch the very sincere people who have had doctors revive them after accidents, car accidents, surgical traumas, etc… THEY ALL SAY THE SAME THING. They see heaven, they see hell… in fact, a surgeon recently wrote a book about it, you might want to check it out, called "TO HEAVEN AND BACK" – Mary Neal, M.D…. she's an orthopedic surgeon, she explains why it is -not- the result of a dying brain. She died while kayaking, got trapped under a waterfall with her boat upside down. She drowned. They brought her back. This happens all the time because science is so advanced now. Many people have crossed the line to the afterlife. There's also a neurosurgeon, a Harvard professor, a buddhist monk, a little boy of four, all kinds of different walks of life who have experienced this – you might want to check it out before you settle on your "beliefs". Because the one thing I will tell you is that all of them, every person who experiences an NDE turns to Jesus Christ – because that is who they see. And there is a "rule" in Heaven, they will also tell you – people who don't believe in Jesus Christ do not get to Heaven, no. You may think that is unfair, but what is happening is God reclaiming His people and that's why the News of Jesus Christ will be spread throughout the world. God says to each one, before He "sends them back to Earth" – Jesus tells them to spread the Word when they get here. The Good News, which is that you don't have to die in your sins. The Word about Jesus Christ is getting to every corner of the planet. Which – the Bible said would happen at the End of Days, one of 2,500 prophecies, of which more than 2,000 have unfolded…and by the end of the world, the Word of Jesus Christ will have reached every corner of the Earth. God bless you, Jane, and I hope you are filled with the thirst to know Jesus…He is God's veil, so that you may know, understand, and love an invisible God. :)

  • snorky neederecker

    God bless you, Jane, but …..I’m sorry that you believe your “acts” can get you into Heaven… they can’t. You could work from now, every minute, until the end of your life, trying to “make up” for all the sins you’ve done with your “acts of goodness”, you will never get there. And, you will never STOP sinning, so, you will always be behind that 8-ball. God doesn’t want a bunch of braggarts, either, who run around saying what “good things” they’ve done, comparing and competing – we do good acts BECAUSE we are saved, not to GET saved, that’s how it works. The fact is, repeatedly, the Bible says if you don’t believe in Christ, to God, your good deeds are like “trying to clean with a dirty rag”, that you cannot “pay” for your own sins, they are too numerous. Only the blood of Jesus can cover you, friend. I pray for you, Jane, that you begin to get the wisdom that comes with knowing Jesus Christ – because He is God. :) Have a great week.

  • Frank455444

    I’m Ok with it. 9 out of 10 of them are bums by CHOICE, just too lazy to work and I’m sick and tired of them bumming off me and making me feel like I’m in a slum when I’m in a nice part of town. Haul them off if they don’t want to work, they’re not my problem.

  • Frank455444

    Dont forget that bible also says that a man who does not work. DOES NOT EAT.

    God does not condone laziness.

  • snorky neederecker

    Jesus came to remove man’s religion, Jane. Man’s religions are nothing but trouble. There’s no “religious acts” you can do to save yourself. Only following Jesus and believing in Him…that’s what He taught. You might want to read Case for Christ by Lee Strobel, or C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity, which are both very fine works that someone educated like you would appreciate. But no, following Jesus isn’t “a religion” which many people don’t know. Perhaps that’s where your understanding might fall a bit short, that might give you more wisdom if you studied it. God bless you, and we pray for your health – congratulations on your sickness being healed – that’s God, you know. All GOOD things come from Him, and I hope you learn that. Take care, and remember, the Christians love you which is why they are trying to save you, so you may be in Heaven, eternally, with all of us and God. :) So you should really be anything but annoyed! heh. God bless you dear.

  • Colin Ratcliffe

    maybe you are right Justin, maybe wrong who knows but good and evil definitely exist and everyone must decide which side they are on

  • snorky neederecker

    I hope some of you clicked that “inappropriate flag” – that helps them remove this kind of nasty foul-mouthed troll.

  • snorky neederecker

    God cannot comingle with evil or sin. You might want to check out your Bible a bit more, and history, and science. You’ll find that God only kills the wicked, friend. God bless you.

  • Zionistout

    Anyone notice all the faces behind that fence are white faces? I don’t see any non white faces there. It is a known fact that white males with High school education are being hit the hardest in this depression the Jews have put us in. The amount of unemployment among these white males is higher than any other group. But of course this is what the Jews want. The destruction of the white European American race. The destruction of our culture, heritage and people. The only way to accomplish this is through economic means. The Jews have turned the table on the goys. The white goys are now being put in the camps, just as the Jews planned. Their goal is to wipe out the white European race. Look what they are doing in Europe. White birth rates are down and Europe is being flooded with immigrants from Africa, the Middle East and Asia. The same thing is happening here sadly. It pains me to see all of those white faces behind that fence. Instead of fixing the economy and bringing our jobs back home the politicians have decided to just arrest and imprison all the homeless white males. This can only be happening in a Jewish run police state. The United States is no longer the United States, but is instead the Jewnited States. In the last 10 years the only employment gains have been had by non white foreigners. How much longer will white Americans sit back stupidly slack jawed and gawk onward as their race is totally decimated by the Jews? The fact that this is happening means white America needs a reawakening and fast.

  • Colin Ratcliffe

    Weather you believe or not doesn’t matter, our creator (something created us inarguably) that we call a god, gave us life to live not to spend our lives debating whether a god/creator/spiritual existence exists or not. But the main thing is to be on the side of good not evil.

  • Zionistout

    I guess you wouldn’t mind being locked away in a prison camp if you lost your Job and became homeless? Remember as the Jews say no American is guaranteed a Job and you can lose yours over night.

  • snorky neederecker

    Jane.. just so you know, I was raised as an atheist, and have been in three graduate programs, have taught in a major university…. if you look around, you’ll find that there’s VERY “educated” Christians all over the world. Please try not to lump us all into a stereotype? :) The Bible speaks of real Christians and false ones. The real ones are obvious to me, the ones that love like Jesus did… but let’s not stereotype Jesus either – He also used a whip, and called people snakes and vipers. The Bible is the truth, the Word of God, and has such historical accuracy as to be used by universities for the study of history and science such as archeology – and it is found to be true more and more each day. We can see the Bethlehem Star with NASA’s software, we found Noah’s ark, can see the chariot wheels under the red sea….we even find the giants that are pre-flood, HUGE skeletons, all over the world…. If you are TRULY, truly educated, you don’t shut the door on this information, you study it, with an OPEN mind… instead of standing apart from it, and criticizing what you haven’t truly investigated wholly. That is being “uneducated”, full of fear, and stupid to boot. God bless you!

  • Zionistout

    America needs a moral shift. You see so many supposed “conservative Christians” preaching about religion and then they turn around and support very unchristian like things.

  • lather

    LOL.. Like you dirtbags care about the homeless, what a fucking joke!

    FEMA! BENGHAZI! MARSHA MARSH MARSHA!

  • Colin Ratcliffe

    You have spoken this from experience in your life rather than believing in off the shelf fantasies. I feel much the same way and strongly believe (nothing to do with religion or fantasy) that we are reborn over and over again and our new lives are judged by what we did in the previous life. Life is for living not praying and devoting our lives to things that have been brainwashed into us and don’t exist in the first place.

  • snorky neederecker

    Matthew 13, the Parable of the Farmer

    (tares are weeds)

    4 Another parable put Jesus forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

    25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

    26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

    27 So
    the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not
    thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

    28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

    29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

    30 Let
    both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will
    say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them
    in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    36 Then
    Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his
    disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the
    tares of the field.

    37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;

    38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

    39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

    40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

    41 The
    Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of
    his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

    42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

    (Do you have ears? Can you hear? God will destroy the wicked first (tares) right in front of your eyes.)

    God bless you, Jane, with wisdom, patience, and the thirst to find the truth in Him.

  • ossobucco

    hurray for capitalism!

  • spud

    you are a moron

  • Zionistout

    what do you expect when Jews run your country. All I see is white faces there. Not surprised. It is the Jews plan for the white goys.

  • Zionistout

  • snorky neederecker

    Awesome point… it’s the fear of God, the fear they’re wrong, the fear they have to change, the fear they have to give up sin… You’re a genius, Rachel! God bless you :)

  • Connie

    LOL! Did you make this up yourself or did you get this from an “occupy” site? This is complete BS. Get your facts straight before you make a fool of yourself for the world to see.

  • Connie

    Wow, how hateful. Do you know a homeless person? Have you ever worked in a soup kitchen or helped in a homeless shelter? It’s pretty arrogant to assume that you know a persons situation that you don’t even have a clue about.
    +

  • lather

    MYTH: ACA Caused Cancer Patient To Lose Her Coverage. In a Wall Street Journal op-ed,
    cancer patient Edie Littlefield Sundby blamed the ACA for the loss of
    her coverage, calling herself “one of the losers” of the health care law.

    REALITY: Sundby’s Coverage Is Being Dropped Because Her Insurer Did Not Want To Pay For Sicker Patients. In
    a ThinkProgress post, Igor Volsky pointed out that Sundby’s dropped
    coverage is a result of her insurer, United Healthcare, being unwilling
    to insure sicker patients:

    MYTH: Obamacare Caused Businessman To Cut Back On Employment. On the October 11 edition of Fox News’ Hannity ¸
    host Sean Hannity interviewed Paul and Michelle Cox, business owners
    who claimed that ACA regulations were causing them to “cut back on
    hiring full-time employees” and “keep [employees] below 30 hours”

    REALITY: Cox’s Business Has Only Four Employees And Not Subject To ACA Regulations. In
    an October 18 Salon post, Eric Stern, a senior counsel to former
    Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer, contacted Paul Cox after the segment and
    found that his business employed only four people, well below the
    49-employee threshold that would have affected his business:

    MYTH: ACA Caused Family’s Premiums To Double. Hannity’s October
    11 show also featured Allison and Curt De Nijs, a couple who claimed
    their existing health care plan was being cancelled and their new health
    insurance policy would double:

    REALITY: The Couple Had Not Compared ACA Plan Pricing And Would Likely Save Money On The Exchange. Salon’s
    Stern also contacted Allison De Nijs, who admitted that she had not
    shopped on the exchange. After researching their situation, Stern found
    that the couple would save 60% on their health care costs:

    Are you sure you know what is real? Idiot.

  • snorky neederecker

    The propaganda and mass indoctrination is in our public schools as secularism, mocking God, evolution, promoting sin. History has passed; today’s world disrespects people of God. It takes a lot of strength to be a Christian today, a lot of learning, education, to get beyond the lies against it. :) As the Bible said, real Christians will be persecuted by people like you, bloop, in the end of days… you’re actually proving the Bible true. It says we Christians will warn you, and warn you, and you won’t listen. Then God will come to destroy you. Your time is short, friend. You might want to investigate what you’re rejecting – even furry little creatures out in the woods are smarter than that. They check it out before they turn and run! God bless you with the wisdom to open your eyes, friend.

  • Connie

    It’s getting out of hand because of the direction our government is taking us. Unemployment is sky high, people trying to pay the ever increasing taxes, the mortagage companies ripping people off right and left. You wonder why our homeless population is increasing? These poor people lose everything & you assume that it’s because they drink or do drugs? Let’s just ship them off to a FEMA camp so we can all pretend that it isn’t happening? Try helping out at a homeless shelter, or a soup kitchen. Hear some of the terrible tragedies some of these people have gone thru in their lives.

  • snorky neederecker

    Oh Frank… you are right!! 100% …..very good :)

  • Stephen Lawson

    True Christians know where we are in the stream of time. We have an obligation to “sound the horn” just as in the days of Noah, just as in the days of Jericho, just as in the days of Moses. A true Christian would not expect to be met with anything less than ridicule. For the very truth that separates us is foolishness to those who are destined for destruction. Just as blood was smeared on the doors of the faithful on the night of passover, so too shall we be saved by the blood of the lamb we carry in our hearts. It matters not that the unbelievers mock us. For they mock what they do not know. For the scriptures clearly state that God blinded the minds of the unbelievers. It is not for any man to save what another man eventuality might be. For God Himself has reserved Judgment and Vengeance to Himself lest any man boast. It will not be due to any mightiness on your part that you might be spared. It is by the grace of God by means of Jesus Christ our Savior and King now and forever, Amen.

  • Connie

    You are a true liberal aren’t you? Deceive, Deny, Deflect. What does your reply have to do with your original BS you posted about those that make $50,000 a year and what they pay in taxes?

  • snorky neederecker

    What did Jesus say?

    “If you say you love me, but do not follow My Ways, you are a liar”. – Jesus
    “Not all who call me Lord (God) will enter heaven.” – Jesus
    “…they worship Me in vain..” – Jesus

    Jane, the Bible speaks of false Christians every bit as much as real ones. If all you’re seeing is “Sunday Christians” then my dear… you need to get out more! God bless you :))))

  • snorky neederecker

    You are minimizing a God that is way more powerful and magnificent than you think – He is ALL THOSE THINGS. He is Love, but He is also wrath against evil and the wicked. God is not so “simple” as you paint Him, dear Jane….remember, Jesus insulted people plenty. God bless you, Jane, I will be praying for you… because you see partly… that you may see wholly that HE LOVES YOU so much!! He just wants you to love Him back. :) If you study about Him you will see, He keeps His promises, of which this is one:

    If you seek Him sincerely, He will reveal Himself to you!

    I will also pray you sell your house soon :)

  • snorky neederecker

    So well-said!! Beautiful, Erin.

  • snorky neederecker

    She didn’t call you “false” – she called the concept of reincarnation false, and I agree – being raised as an atheist, I experienced all those “other religions” too – buddhism, hinduism, reincarnation.. yadda yadda. They don’t have the solid evidence and foundation of Jesus Christ. Again, you might want to read. Two of the best I can think of would be Case for Christ (Strobel) and C.S. Lewis (brilliant man) Mere Christianity – both of which were atheists who discovered that Jesus Christ was real. I’m sure you recognize those famous author’s names. I liked those two myself because as an atheist, I used to mock Christians, and hated them and the way they would “push their religion” on me – what I discovered is – they were just trying to tell me the truth. Just like we’re doing now. Nobody has insulted you, or called you names in any way – we’re merely saying – THIS is the truth, God’s veil is Jesus Christ, He loves you, He wants you to be with Him forever. And other views are yes….in error. If you find that “offensive” then I wonder why… because it’s just another viewpoint. Someone’s “right” and someone’s “wrong” on every issue, the fact that someone tells you that your position is “wrong” shouldn’t be eliciting such negative, hateful emotions from you. Seriously. I really think it’s the guilt, because deep down, God writes right and wrong on your heart. You’re born that way. So… somewhere, deep inside of you, you know you’re rejecting the truth and it makes you feel guilty *shrug* God keeps knocking on your door, I just wonder why you are afraid to answer. You said you had studied all these religions, it makes me wonder why you don’t appear to have really, seriously, genuinely studied the scriptures. Take care and God bless you, again.

  • Pat in the hat

    the pics or videos that were up are no longer see.

  • snorky neederecker

    Eric clearly isn’t the least bit pompous….that’s a false narrative merely to dismiss what she’s saying. Erin spoke to you with humility about the truth, even pointing out her own previous sinful life. I’m starting to see you as being intellectually dishonest :( You ask, what kind of “proof”? It’s all around you if you look. 2,500 Biblical prophecies, coming true, one-by-one, over thousands of years.. there’s only a few hundred left. People who actually DIE… and SEE Him. Thousands of them…. That’s just the beginning of the evidence. You aren’t looking at it, yet, you want to tell everyone they have no proof? LOL.. That’s downright silly. .. “spirituality” is for people who don’t understand who their Creator is. And Jesus came to remove religions. It’s about GOD. What kind of “good” Creator wouldn’t give a true pathway to know Him? No God I would want to worship would remain a big mystery. Fact: We know who He is, HE TOLD YOU who He is… so… do you think Jesus Christ was a liar, or just crazy? Because He never committed one sin, and nothing but truth came out of His mouth. And He told you over, and over, specifically He is God, and “I am I AM”, He is God, the Creator of all things….. Only God could not sin, friend. And even the Muslims know Jesus was born of a virgin (God cannot comingle with sin.) I wish you the best, and pray for you, Jane. You are a smart girl, but, your “intelligence” appears to be getting in your own way…as you deny the testimony of Jesus Christ that He is our very Creator. Eternity is a very long time, so I hope you’ll consider it carefully.

  • Bigbird

    I don’t see people going around threatening each other with an eternity in hell for not believing in big bird.

  • snorky neederecker

    I’m really, really glad you’re going to study the Qur`an. That is where I learned about Jesus Christ…. because the Qur`an is a whole mess of perverted Bible stories, you can’t study it alone, you have to compare it to real scripture, that came thousands of years before it. I was working for a man who was teaching Muslims about the Bible, for a long time – and inadvertently, he wound up teaching me, too. :) The Qur`an is so perverse and sick, and twists and mangles the Bible so terribly, hopefully, you will start to see the beauty and truth of Jesus Christ that they want to deny. The way they deny His death is really pretty comedic, too. I have faith that you have the smarts to see through it, and perhaps come to the ultimate truth: Jesus Christ is God. <3 And He loves you dearly, more than anyone on Earth ever could.

  • snorky neederecker

    I’m so glad you and Erin are friends now! AWESOME!!! xoxox – snorky

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Like someone else pointed out above, Atheists don’t waste their time trying to disprove Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. The light offends the darkness.

  • RHLee

    Obamavilles are the new Hoovervilles

  • snorky neederecker

    Is that why we can see the real bethlehem star, the real place Jesus was crucified, the real ark of Noah, the real chariot wheels of the pharoh under the red sea… come on, Sebastian… you’re really grasping at straws dude…we can even see the pits where the balls of fire fell on Soddom & Gommorah… lol.. but hey, you keep trying…good luck…

  • RHLee

    There, but for the grace of God, goes any of us, numb nutz.

  • RHLee

    This IS about religion…for those that claim to be religious. The golden rule applies.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Now that I read it a little more carefully, there is far more than a small hint of sarcasm there.

  • snorky neederecker

    You are so right, but then, who will teach them? shall they continue to speak blasphemies and confusion without someone speaking the truth? BTW, I think you are fantastic. What great scriptures you chose. You taught me something. Careful, I’m liable to “follow” your threads. :)

  • jeff van zant

    let the reporter give them his house!!!

  • Jessica Davidison

    Philadelphia has been doing worse for years. At least they aren’t just jailed.

  • Tarri Mcc

    this does scare me abit.. a lot of people laughed at me when a few yrs ago I saw all of this and I warned that something like this would come.. yea it’s no conspiracy any longer.. they’re starting with homless.. after that what next… it is scary.. it’s no longer what most called bologna.. it’s actually happening.. this is the worst the states have seen.. a lot of people with no jobs, help has been cut drastically.. what’s next?? yes I do know now we’re living in the times the bible spoke of.. it’s only gonna get worse before it gets better.

  • Justin Green

    Or maybe we comprehend it much better than you think, since most atheists were once christians.

  • Vladimir Surgay

    Have you seen middle earth your self? No. you just believe it must be by your logic

  • Justin Green

    You see, you’re making up an impossible scenario. True friends don’t abandon you. And have you ever seen a family just kick grandma to the curb?

  • Justin Green

    If you’ve been there, tell Radagast I said hi.

  • Justin Green

    Do you know nothing of quantum physics? Do you even try to keep up with our current findings? Do you know the answer to 1 – 1?

  • Justin Green

    Lol, yeah, ya got me. I’ll be shaking in my boots just like my illogical fear of the Ishtar bunny.

  • Vladimir Surgay

    No I have not. By logic i believe there is one. Also by logic i believe there is the signature on an any living cell. If your logic is superperfect you must win this grant- http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/agcomm/magazine/winter05/n_million.htm

  • Justin Green

    A lack of confidence in your self does not mean you are correct about some god. You know that feeling you get when you think god is talking to you? It’s called mirror neurons. It’s how we self reflect emotions back on our selves.

  • Justin Green

    You know I can make up any story from back in the 40′s right now. And keep passing that story around and have those people pass it around. Until a couple hundred years later no one will question if it’s true or not, there’s no way to. The jesus story was written down over 50 years after the fact. When all possible people who witnessed it were already dead.

  • Justin Green

    Just because you mix a truth with a lie does not make it truth. The bible was constantly re-written to align with the history’s, that’s a proven fact.

  • Justin Green

    you are no more eternal than your body is. However, in the sense of time. Every moment you are a live is a eternity. If you existed now, 20 years ago, 20 years from now. Those moments are and will always be. We experience time going forward. However, time can go forwards and backwards.

    If you are alive now, you will always be alive.

  • Justin Green

    the astrological event takes place on the night of the 24th of decemeber, Meaning if it took place on the 25th, the wise men/kings would of been a day late.

  • Arthur Brutus

    Well, you can allow those who are homeless by choice to live life as they wish. You have no right to imprison them just because they offend you.

    Or you can cut taxes so that working people don’t become homeless. Right now it is the other way around. Two taxpayers support one person on public assistance. Let those who work keep their homes and then we can deal with those who don’t wish to work. I’m not saying put them into internment camps like here. I’m just saying find solutions for those who are the problem instead of forcing the problem on those who would otherwise work to survive.

  • Justin Green

    Actually it comes down to your need to reproduce. You see if you go about killing people or whatever. society will turn its back on you, or kill you, which lessens you chances of breeding. Everything you do is a by product of your need to breed.

  • Justin Green

    My nose? Then my voice sounds funny.

    Did you know that jews believe in no hell. It’s not mentioned once in the old testament. Not once! However in the new. Well jolly gee!

  • Justin Green

    One can not prove a negative. Can you prove to me there is a magical tea pot in orbit around mars right now?

  • Justin Green

    Good and evil are subjective terms. What you mean to say is what is morally acceptable and not morally acceptable.

  • Justin Green

    provide evidence of said statement.

  • Drew in VA

    The Abrahamic God you refer to is merely a literary device created by old men wandering around in the Sinai Desert for the purpose of controlling their followers through fear and intimidation. Christians do not have a monopoly on God or the Afterlife. They are simply clinging to misguided beliefs to give their existence here on earth some meaning or purpose.
    Why would a God create beings and souls, give them free will, and then destroy them in a lake of fire if they didn’t relinquish the gift of free will and believe in his son? This makes absolutely no sense.

  • Arthur Brutus

    The war on drugs created part of this. Tons of taxpayer money goes to this so-called war, so taxes on national and local levels are high, making it harder to survive. Illegality of drugs forces the price of drugs through the roof for users, so they can’t afford to work and do drugs. They need to steal or sell themselves. Prisons are overflowing, destroying the working ability of millions both now and in the future, and again forcing up taxes at over a hundred thousand dollars a year for each inmate, on average.

    This is idiotic. The illegality keeps those dependent on drugs from seeking help. And a whole violent criminal underworld, complete with human trafficking and murder, has grown from this lucrative enterprise.

    Take ten percent of all this money and open clinics that supervise drug use, counsel, and provide paths to drug free lives and much of this homeless “problem” will go away.

    But nobody wants to hear this. People claim that this is condoning drug use, which is evil. I don’t condone drug use, but notice various drugs have been used in just about every culture in our history, from peyote to cannabis in the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. Only we have declared all drugs evil, and it has become a self fulfilling prophecy.

  • Justin Green

    So because we all have dna, there fore Middle Earth? I’m confused by your statement.

  • Arthur Brutus

    “Like I said, I fully understand both sides…”

    Nobody fully understands both sides.

    The rest of your post shows that you understand very little of either side. Some who choose to live that life choose not to live in a system that they didn’t create. As for “some of them” destroying family businesses, there exist those who are not homeless who destroy family businesses as well. You say those who lost everything are different and deserve help, but who plays God and makes that decision? People who fell down usually respect others… for a little while, until they are forced to do anything to survive. And not only good people fall down. Sociopaths also fall down. And believe it or not, they have rights too.

    Remember they have the right to avoid those municipalities? Sure, they can call their travel agents and lawyers and fly out to places that don’t yet have these regulations. Wow, are you off base!

    I agree that illegals should be sent home. Confiscation of property without the right to sell? You are full of hellish life destroying absolutes and clearly have no compassion or fairness in you whatsoever.

  • Arthur Brutus

    Law enforcement deal with all violent people, whether they are part of society or not. And the problem is to stop pushing people out of society.

  • Arthur Brutus

    No copmpendes espanol. Try English as a Second Language.

  • imying72

    did you EVER stop to consider that religion may not be so much about the belief of a seen or unseen deity? And that just MAYBE it’s more about a code of morality? right and wrong? You are obviously too ignorant to understand that. When people lose religion, they lose morality.. and thus you have what we have here today… a nation of non caring fools.

  • Jay

    It isn’t the fear of a god, but rather the fear of people who believe in it. These people who will do anything to gain the favor of their imaginary friend are a danger to society.

    There is no need for a god or religion in general in today’s society. The whole purpose of religion was to answer unanswerable questions back when there were no explanations to natural occurrences such as natural disasters and the mystery of the sky.

    -”In dark ages people are best guided by religion, as in a pitch-black night a blind man is the best guide; he knows the roads and paths better than a man who can see. When daylight comes, however, it is foolish to use blind old men as guides”

    Heinrich Heine, Gedanken Und Einfalle

  • Jay

    So, you follow your god out of fear more than anything else?

  • Dan Leidal

    So, you kind of missed my points… Many of these homeless urinate, and deficate on public streets, alleys, and sidewalks; they care less if this causes problems for the store’s customers… They care less about the health hazards to the people who have to clean all this up!!! They harass the customers, they go inside, and steal merchandise, etc… These people have no respect for the rights of others, they just take… I remember dealing with that “homeless” guy who stole that girl in Utah… I caught him stealing items off a semi truck at the Flying-J in Salt Lake City… The family who are living in their minivan do not generally behave like this… I drive a truck, and see this in many cities… The street people seem to get from town to town just fine, from hitch hiking… As for the illegals, these people are stealing the opportunity of others… They decided that they would not wait their turn, so they helpede themselves, and took the jobs, the opportunity, and the lives of those who followed the rules… Why should they be rewarded??? These people are not victims, but are a huge problem… So, I think you are way off base…

  • Sarah De Weese

    Your nose? You only have one nostril huh? Weird, I guess you missed pre-school that day, when they taught everyone the song, “Head, Shoulders, knees, and Toes”. And I’m sure you have read both the old and the new Testament cover to cover? Yeah, That’s what I thought. Its ok, people make mistakes, so I forgive you.

  • Justin Green

    Are you completely stupid? All animals have morals, even apes. Losing a religion does not make you immoral. If this were the case, Sweden would be over run with rapist, murderers, and the whole 9 yards. Since by your logic, being an atheist means having or losing your morals.

  • TheBattman

    So it is their “right” to camp out and panhandle? It is their “right” to sleep on the sidewalk or bench in front of your business? Its alright for them to take a leak (or to defecate) on the side of your building or behind your house?

    And I did not suggest imprisoning anyone. But as to your second paragraph – you then mirrored my position – but there are other problems besides taxes at work here… All the tax cuts in the world won’t put someone who DOESNT want to work, in a job where they can support themselves.

    We moved a few months ago from North Little Rock, AR where I got to know a woman about 60 years old, who was a manager at a Little Caesars franchise – yet she was homeless. She lived in her car… even in the winter – she lived in her car. I never figured out where she was getting a bath, and she used the bathroom at her work during the day. Her car was stuffed so full of “stuff” – that I don’t know how she could even drive it. She would idle her car all night to sleep in it when it was cold. Even being a relatively smaller vehicle – I’m sure she burned enough $3.20+ gasoline to nearly afford a place to stay. Her income was borderline – she would have qualified for some housing subsidies… but she apparently had another issue that was a roadblock to renting – she is a hoarder (though she wouldn’t admit it). She had lost previous places to live because of this behavior. Tax cuts won’t help this woman. She is homeless by choice.

  • Justin Green

    Your stupidity astounds me. it really does. I’ve never heard of someone refering to their nose as a noses. Noses being plural, Nose being singular.

    Do you have multiple noses Sarah De Weese?

  • Edward Mott

    It does apply to other religions, you dolt. You should fix that cranial-rectal inversion dilemma you have going on before you try to comment.

  • santa

    666 i win, i <3 the homeless, lettem party, long as their not religous then their jus crazy ppl, send them to a camp/crucefix burrrrrrrn!

  • Edward Mott

    I have absolutely seen a family kick grandma to the curb. I’ve seen families completely turn my friends away. I’ve watched people go downhill because they don’t have God in their lives. Like “Walk” stated: “For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don’t believe, no proof is possible.” It’s all about beliefs. Who are you to question my beliefs? Who are you to try to tell me that I’m wrong for believing something that you don’t believe. Just because it’s not your truth does no automatically make it not my truth as well. Just because I cut off my finger you won’t automatically lose your finger as well. Yeah, that’s an extreme example, but to me, my belief is as tangible as my finger. If you’ve ever truly hit rock bottom, and I’m sure you haven’t because mommy and daddy have given you a cushy lifestyle, you would know why those who have faith continue to have faith.

  • Edward Mott

    Rachel, I don’t think I’ve ever heard an argument put quite so eloquently AND for it to have no negative votes is beyond impossible, lol. Kudos and well said. :)

  • Edward Mott

    Watch this, and you might just have a different look on things. Instead of being close-minded and convoluted in your line of thinking.

  • Edward Mott

    You could benefit from watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

  • Edward Mott

    For you to sit there and call yourself whatever religion you are, you’re not being very tolerant. Who are you to judge how other people carry out/follow their own religion? Sure, it differs from yours, but who’s to say that yours is better than theirs, or vice versa, or that they’re in fact the same thing, just worded differently and you’re just speaking a bunch of mumbo jumbo to get people to turn to your line of thinking. What you’re all failing to realize is that everybody has a different truth. What may be true for you is not always going to be true for the next person and the next person, and so on and so forth.

  • Edward Mott

    I have to disagree with you. A crazy person would 1, not realize they are crazy, and 2, continue on with a conversation that clearly has no end. The incessant need to have the final word is the definition of crazy. :) Just food for thought.

  • Whiskey Rye Bread

    This comment section makes me laugh so hard.

  • Justin Green

    LOL My father gave me nothing, my mother gave me nothing. I think it’s funny how you post about me but you don’t even know about me.

    Anyways. Absence of belief is not belief. I’m sorry your parents and peers indoctrinated you as a child. It’s really the worst form of child abuse. But. Immoral people will do immoral things. “Don’t impose your will upon others.” Then they precede to impose their ‘beliefs’ upon you. All children are born Anti-theists. It is only after their indoctrination that they become theists.

  • Edward Mott

    How did this go from “They’re rounding up the homeless” to “If you believe in God, you’re stupid”? Seriously. This is why the country is so fucked up (pardon my language, but I feel it fits). We get so caught up with all the incessant back and forth of “God’s real” and “No he’s not” to realize that we’re missing the complete bigger picture! This right here is my point: there are homeless people being rounded up and put into concentration camps (remember Hitler and the Holocaust?). Last time I checked, it’s our right to live wherever the fuck we want. The Constitution gives us that right. Hell, the preamble says we have the right to Life, Liberty, AND the pursuit of happiness. If being homeless makes that person happy, then who are you to say they can’t be anywhere? What kind of person does that make you? Don’t get me wrong, I believe in God and I love Jesus. He died on that cross to absolve us of our sins and so that we would be forgiven any sins we do commit. He gave his life for the lives of all. I don’t know any other sacrifice of such magnitude. His final words were, “Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do.”

    We need to stop fighting about whose religion is better than whose and worry about what’s really important in this country. Like these Death Camps, and that wannabe Nazi in the white house trying to give us universal healthcare that’s broken. You know why it didn’t work? Because he’s not Hitler. Hitler got it right. (Not morally, mind you.) But still. He has yet to answer for Benghazi (lack of action there), the Fast & Furious scandal (of which he knows nothing), the IRS scandal (of which he knows nothing). Either he’s a liar, or he’s the world’s worst president because he obviously isn’t fit to lead his shit to a toilet. End of story. Gah.

    May God bless all of you, though, in all of your endeavors, be they big or small.

  • Kevin H

    what’s with all the thumpers in here ?

  • Edward Mott

    Likewise, you claim to know so much, yet in reality know so little. Indoctrinated? You act as if I grew up in an internment camp. How narrow-minded of you.

    So instead of pointing fingers and assuming here’s a question: How did you come up with the nonsensical theories that you claim to be fact (for you)?

  • Jay

    Exactly.

  • BluesDude

    I respectfully disagree, Justin.The Roman census disproves your point about the human existence of Jesus. Also, Jewish chronologists were just as accurate as the Greek, and both wrote of his existence. Of course, the fact that his teachings and workings were witnessed by over 10,000 people is a little tough to discard as fiction. His appearance after His crucifixion was witnessed by between 300-500 people. Plus, He said He was Lord.
    So, since His existence was proven, the question remains… was He a liar, a lunatic, or Lord. If you examine it further, an intellectual person such as yourself will probably come to the same conclusion that this intellectual person writing you did. Lord.
    Perhaps your question/aversion isn’t really with whether He was, but who He was, and what He represented. It would be worth looking into even if you don’t believe. The life lessons contained in the Bible are still excellent (Proverbs, for example), are still useful. Take care..

  • Ron Palmieri

    Your ability to be succinct is admirable. Christianity is the very philosophy, you describe. There is no altering it. Many religions reinterpret the teachings of Jesus’ reign on earth, usually for their own benefit. Jesus was god’s son…sent to earth to set down god’s law to man….he proved his self with acts not replicated by man. The bible is writings of scholars and educators, as well as average people, as proof of these teachings and happenings. You don’t have to believe documents handed down for centuries, you just have to look at the vastness of space and consider the miracle of human form. Having had many exposures myself, it is up to us as individuals to be able to rationalize the real, from unreal….same as good and evil. If you don’t find the proof around you to have faith and belief…you are lost. It is our belief, and god’s will, we share and reiterate the truth of god’s word and promise of everlasting life. Judgement day and the teachings of last day’s…as promised with god’s return, is fairly inconsequential to the grander scheme of things. Knowing and believing in god, in your heart, will promote goodwill and prosperity to others, as you are compelled to share wealth and resist want and evil. We will always have sin and will never live up to god’s standards…is why we are forgiven…this further compels us to continue to be better,however. Fellowship is required…talking and sharing, but we are not to be feared….like good mlm, we want you to be saved, but we’re not going to force it on you.

  • Justin Green

    Tons of research, specifically into other ancient deities with similarities to christianity.

  • BluesDude

    Have you read and studied the Bible. My guess is, no. So, if you haven’t, aren’t you speaking from a point of ignorance?

  • BluesDude

    No Jane, it was written by God through man, and all points to Jesus Christ. I could cite verses, but I doubt that would change your mind. But continue on… you are certainly entitled to believe what you will, and you seem to desire a peaceful life, and that’s good. Just try to remember that Jesus commands Christians to share the Word, in the Great Commission. So, we are following direction, but not indoctrination.

  • SPB32399

    Yes, As a matter of fact, I have!

  • Grandma

    Yes, it happened to me and my Grandmother……my father didnt like my mothers’ mother so we never saw her or helped her in any way. Now Im a grandmother and the family did the same to me. I believe in Jesus Christ and that he died on the Cross for my salvation. Thats all ….nothing more…nothing less.

  • puck90

    Big Bird doesn’t have followers trying to force his fictional story into science class. Big Bird doesn’t have followers trying to get government sanctioned prayer to him in schools or public gatherings. Atheists don’t fight god. They fight the people who try to encroach upon secular life with their personal belief system.

  • Megan R. Suiter

    In my own opinion, I do not believe in a “God”, yet I feel that if there is a deity or spirit that controls my afterlife, then if i live a good life, help others, and always do what in my heart I know is right, but on the day of “salvation” I do not get into “heaven” and some child molesting pastor or priest who “repented his sins” DOES, then I would rather burn in hell than sit beside him.

  • Jay

    Exactly.

  • Dr. Evinstein

    Have you read the Quran? Have you researched the other 1000s of gods and religions before Christianity? Zeus anyone? They are all right, or all wrong…none of us know.

  • Anonymous

    The topic at hand is about MISTREATING HOMELESS PEOPLE. Why are you guys arguing over religion!!!!!!!!

  • Edward Mott

    So you read a bunch of stuff that man wrote for man? Sounds a little counterintuitive to me. I mean, your whole basis is that the Good Book is written by man for man so it can’t be credible. Ergo, your “research” is moot.

  • my2cents

    Communities are truly struggling with the issue of homelessness. These people are often victims of crime and are misunderstood. I can’t say it is better to leave someone on the pavement or a stoop somewhere as opposed to providing a facility for them. The particulars of freedom to come and go from these places I can’t vouch for, because this seems to be one persons side of the issue and I have questions that are not answered in this article. As for vacation or foreclosed homes, really… Are they prepared to take care of it, pay the bills, maintain it? Most could not, even if it were given to them. Then you have property values to consider. If you are trying to build up an area it is not prudent to have vacant or abandon properties as homeless shelters spotted through out the community. I know few people who would pick a homeless person up, put them in their car, take them to their house, and put them up in their guest room night after night. So to those who would not do that, is leaving them on the curb is easier to live with then the thought of a facility somewhere where they can be housed, hum. I also imagine very few people would want to see their foreclosed neighbors house being offered up as a homeless shelter. This is a complex issue. Many homeless struggle with mental health issue also. They need help on many levels and yes, I believe someplace safe to go. They should not be incarcerated or put away, but I see nothing wrong with a city not wanting to have such a place as their downtown main attraction either. My 2 cents.

  • Lisa Page

    ^^ These brainwashed youth among us are what enabled this government to be able to do all they are doing. We can’t hold them responsible, so many lies and deceit. It’s everywhere in school, on TVs, violence in movies and games, on and on.

  • Captain Sarcasm

    How did this go from “They’re rounding up the homeless” to “Roooarrr Obamacare!!” and “Hitler got it right”? Seriously…

    “Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Christian, but Hitler got it right.” Bah!! Moving right along. You, sir, are a retard.

  • Jacob

    Why keep them in camps? That’s a waste of money. Just shoot the worthless bastards and burn the bodies.

  • Jean Amick

    I live in SC (teabag-republican state) where Corporations are given free land & taxes to move here & minimum wage is encouraged by our governor & representatives.. FEMA does NOT have anything to do with this mess & THANK GOD for the CHURCHES in the area who are trying to help these poor people. Some are homeless by choice but not all are bums, some are veterans or people down on their luck

  • [email protected]

    Why do these Christians keep going on about god saving us. Look at the news you are commenting on. America is the most christian nation on the face of the planet and this is how you treat those worse off than yourselves. The USA uses more co2, invades more countries and refuses to accept more statutes on human rights than any other country. To call the USA a country on the verge of insanity is an understatement. But that’s ok you need a mental illness to believe in invisible friends anyway. All these inmates will be turning muslim soon anyway so you’ll have something to fight that’s just as insane as you are. Actually that works to everyones benefit. Let all the fundies wipe each other out and the jews get their messiah. No wonder they think they’re the chosen people.

  • Arthur Brutus

    You stuff everyone who is homeless into the same bucket, even though out of the other side of your mouth you say those who are good people should be treated differently.

    Urinating and defecating on the street is not reason to put them into prison camps, even if they would have someplace else to do it. “They don’t care about health hazards” is a lame excuse for imprisoning those who make you feel uneasy.

    And I’ll tell you something that you will find hard to swallow. A lot of these people were dumped by society. First the mentally ill were dumped on the streets because of a political corruption scandal years ago that closed state psychiatric hospitals. Then the housing bubble followed by the banking meltdown that is now being so neatly solved by having the banks pay fines to the government! Then last year income tax regulations were changed so that the wealthy cannot deduct more than $350K to their chosen charitable deductions, so private shelters and such are disappearing. On top of that, illegal aliens, instead of being deported, are now “legal undocumented workers” so Americans who were crushed can never get on their feet again with a low paying job. I don’t blame a guy in that situation for stealing off a truck! Their government threw them under the bus for political gain.

    I don’t have a CDL, but I have done everything from driving a wine truck to digging graves to being a VP of a corporation. Friends of mine in all walks of life HAVE become victims from the rocky economy. I have two friends who have lost their jobs once again after taking what they could get during the recession. I know two others who are in specialized fields who have been out of work for about six years now. One is such a brain worker that he can’t even get a job as cashier in Walmart because he can’t deal with anything practical. I have not been homeless, but I needed years to get back up after losing everything on 9/11.

    I think that seeing people living like this scares you to death because it could be you. You want them out of your sight. You are bigoted against those who can’t make it.

    Yes, some are freeloaders. But putting all people of one group into one moral basket happens to be the sign of a bigot.

  • bornintochains

    666! back Satan! I rebuke thyself back to the depths from whence you came!

  • dante616

    did you know that almost all of the holidays that you celebrate was stolen from pagan festivals???
    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/health/how-christianity-hijacked-pagan-holidays

  • bornintochains

    that’s the spirit

  • [email protected]

    Yes, because that’s a sane reply isn’t it?

  • Arthur Brutus

    Yes, she is homeless by choice. It is her right to be homeless.

    I have been in dire straits and have never taken a penny from any government program, be it unemployment, disability or anything else. That is the way I was raised and I believe in it, and I applaud her for keeping her self respect even if you don’t respect her.

    As for defecation, where would you like them to do it? THEY ARE HOMELESS. The government shut down the psychiatric state hospitals, shelters are far apart and dangerous for those alone, stores throw them out because customers would stop coming if they were in and out all the time. There is no place for these people because their governments have taken away all their facilities.

    I’m not going to repeat what I’ve said elsewhere on this board. But know this: Anywhere you look in history, there were homeless and beggars. Read literature from old England, or watch a movie on feudal Japan. Read the Old Testament or the Bible. All societies dealt with it. Most honorable societies had customs such as individuals voluntarily giving a tithe to the poor, inviting them to sleep on cold or rainy nights, etc. I remember houses of worship acting that way when I was a child many decades ago. I took people in for meals for years after I married.

    But now they are vilified by mayors and governors, and the money and opportunities that were once given to them by individuals (with unlimited tax deduction for charitable contributions) is all but gone. The Government promises to take care of the poor; just give the government more than half of what you earn and all these ethical issues are off your back. But of course those who need to get back on their feet never can in such a system. The most they will get is some self important bureaucrat treating them like children.

    It was the handing over of ethical responsibilities to a nanny state government, the making of the government some kind of moral compass, that has led to these problems. They are just a group statistic now. In the past they were a class of individuals.

  • BluesDude

    I disagree, Doctor. You are suggesting moral relativism, a common approach. The fallacy of that position is the assertion that there is no absolute truth. This is incorrect. Even the scientific method does not propose as much. I assume you have read the Bible, am I wrong? If so, you know that, “In the beginning was the Word”. The “Word” being referred to is the pre incarnate Jesus. He refers to Himself as the Alpha and Omega. Now, many people do not believe in the triune God. It is difficult to truly understand how it works. Simply because one has not read the Bible, does not mean that the facts contained therein are untrue.

    BTW, I have read enough of the Quran… enough to know that it proposes the extermination of unbelievers, if they do not repent, and convert, or pay the required monetary amount instead. In addition, can you name one religion where the founder rose from the dead? Only Jesus. All of the others are dead. Does that provide a hint as to who is God? Take care.

  • dante616

    think im gonna join you

  • Whtehorse67

    Prove it……go ahead…..I challenge you. It doesn’t take much intelligence to claim something isn’t real……so I challenge you……prove it….what;s unfortunate for you is…..you can’t.

  • dante616

    i see what you did there ^5 supernatural such a good program

  • E82

    I believe in God, I don’t necessarily believe in Church, (because I don’t believe I have to be a part of a group or in a man made building paying money to the organization to read my bible or believe in or talk to God, but I find your comment interesting. You are right in the sense that no one has the right to tell you that your faith isn’t “true” it is true to you and that is all that matters, but I will say that Christians, truely faithful Christians, tend to spend their time telling others that they are wrong, that their way of living and believing is wrong, and that if they do not find God and/or church they are damned. Why then is it not okay for those who do not believe to say the same “you are wrong” statement. If you don’t want them to “attack” you and your truth then don’t attack them and their truth; it works both ways! I also find it interesting that a person who claims to follow God and have faith in one breath also found it necessary to make a very snide and quite frankly attacking comment such as “mommy and daddy have given you such a cushy lifestyle.” You know nothing about that person and to quote one of the most overly used and quoted Bible versus that Christians and nonchristians alike tend to forget about “Judge least ye be judged.” That comment was very judgmental and unchristian like in my opinion. It is also my understanding that as Christians it is your job to try to preach the word of God and build faith and his followers, but with comments such as that you will never do such a thing you are actually doing the opposite. So hold on to your Faith, follow God, but until you practice all of what is in the Bible then do not judge anyone.

  • Christine Zeppieri

    LOL!

  • rebekah

    It would be great if you could cite some sources.

  • Laurie

    They have places to house them….try all the huge grocery stores and other large business stores that have gone out of business. They are just sitting there empty!!!

  • Trish House

    We will end most of the culture insanity when we insist that it is the birthright of each one of us to a free and fair share of the land and resources of this country so we can make ourselves self sustaining. There is no point in admonishing people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while making the bootstraps illegal. Try to simply use a piece of land in this country and see how fast men with guns come and drive you off it…

  • Adahy Linda

    Never thought I would see the day .Where I live , we are getting ready for winter with more beds also donations of knitted hats , scarves & mittens !

  • Edward Mott

    Cuz that’s what I said. I never once said that what Hitler did was the right thing. I said the way he did it was right in that HE HAD A VIABLE PLAN before implementing his nonsense. In that regard, yes, he was right. You dolt, you need to get your reading comprehension up because I never once said that Hitler’s extermination of Jews and other people was right. Not even once. And on that note, I never went “Roooarrr Obamacare!!” either. I mentioned it as another detractor. A detractor that, as you just demonstrated, perverts the American public’s attention away from the inhumane actions that are taking place behind the scenes. Go ahead and put your blinders back on and move along with the rest of the sheeple.

  • Edward Mott

    You’re absolutely right, it was very judgemental. I should not have stooped because that’s all he’s been doing to everybody else. I felt that I should join on that parade.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Oh you are so right there, a crazy person does not realise they are crazy and not keep on having conversations to which there is no end. I QUITE AGREE!!!!! I presume you have ALL looked in the mirror today? There you will see the crazies.

    I get up this morning and find emails right down the bloody page from all of you especially Snorky Neederecker who obviously has the NEED to preach to me whilst I was asleep for the night. ON and ON and ON AD INFINITUM. OH YES I SEE YOU ALL HAVE THE NEED TO TRY AND PREACH TO ME TO SAVE MY SOUL BLAH BLAH BLAH. WHEREAS I THOUGHT YESTERDAY WAS OVER TODAY WAS A NEW DAY AND THE PREACHING WOULD STOP AND I WOULD HAVE PEACE AND BE ABLE GET ON WITH MY LIFE AS I WANT TO AND NEED TO for I have things like shopping to do so I can eat. You know, those sort of basic things to keep us alive? And also to start getting my house ready for the open inspection this week before the real estate agent rolls up with people trampling all through. You get my drift? i HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN SIT IN FRONT OF A DARNED COMPUTER UNLESS IT’S TO EDUCATE MYSELF (not like you would wish me to do though and HOW DARE YOU TO TRY) OR KEEP IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD.

    Yes I know about life after death experiences I HAVE A BOOK ON IT WHICH WAS WRITTEN IN THE 70′s BY RAYMOND A. MOODY JR M.D. and it’s called LIFE AFTER LIFE. Did you read it when it came out back then? I DID. I still have it in my library. He says that people recognise the being full of love when they die according to what religion they are in. Some see Christ, others something else and so it goes on but he does NOT say we ALL SEE CHRIST. He does not say that we all need to believe in Christ to go towards the light, go through a tunnel and out into the next world, He just repeated what patients had told him, he travelled the world to collate the information for the book interviewing people in all sorts of races of all sorts of religions and they all basically had the same experiences. WE ALL GO THERE REGARDLESS. HOWEVER we are judged, by ourselves on our AKASHIC record by ourselves with a beautiful and loving being beside us helping us to see what we have done wrong and right as we review our lives over AND GIVE US COMFORT AND SUPPORT.

    Also “IS DEATH THE END” by P. and S. Phillips published in 1972. I bought that in a little back street shop in Melbourne Australia when I was on my honeymoon in 1972. That’s what lead me to the truth as I know it!!!! I said when I read that if it’s right then there is a life after this and I set out to find the proof for myself. IT DOES NOT MENTION CHRIST WHATSOEVER. Also SONIA CHOQUETTE’s books, she has written many about the spirit world and I’m reading one at the very present moment. She gets her information through mediums who connect with the spirit world. As yes I can see you all now going spare at that one. Oh dear she’s into something evil, wicked etc. etc. The BLOODY CHRISTIANS tell you that so you will all go along like sheeples and give them money for their churches. That is the truth.

    AND so my intelligence is getting in my way is it? Well well, I suppose when you have a genius level one in excess of 150 it gets on some people’s goats because they are just plain downright jealous as they are basically stupid and do what they are told to do because they can’t think for themselves and never actually investigate things, they just read the Bible, and use their IQ’s? Basically they don’t have much to use to find out the truth. It’s all “follow the leader” like sheep do.

    I am only going to read the Quran so I can say I have read it to educate myself so we can get rid of these wicked Islamic Fundamentalists who want to blow us all up, mow us down with guns or behead us or cut our throats. AND YES I HAVE SEEN EXPLICIT FOOTAGE OF IT AND IT’S CHILLING AND SICKENING. I HAVE READ WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO AND SO ON. I WILL FIGHT TO MY LAST BREATH, WITH OTHERS, TO STOP THEM FROM TAKING OVER THE WESTERN WORLD WHICH THEY HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF DOING AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT VERY CLEARLY. YOU won’t be able to be Christians then or they will behead you. And I’m researching it on the internet every single day to educate myself into what they are like and about so I can fight them. You can only fight something properly if you educate yourself as to what you are fighting. You cannot do it if you are ignorant about it all.

    Edward, if I were crazy my dear friend who is an eminent psychiatrist would have worked it out by now as we have known one another for over 40 years now and have done something to get me help… RIGHT? I wonder how many of you could get on with a man like that and not be labelled a bit la la. Not many methinks. He thinks I’m so sane that he’s even going to visit me in England and stay with me for a while, if he thought I was crazy and a bit lulu he wouldn’t want to come and sleep in my house would he?

    NOW PLEASE, LEAVE ME ALONE! DON’T PRAY FOR ME, I DON’T NEED IT. PRAY FOR YOURSELVES BECAUSE YOU ARE TYPICAL OF THE BLOODY SORT OF CHRISTIANS WHO JUST WON’T KEEP THEMSELVES TO THEMSELVES AND FEEL THE NEED TO HAVE TO PREACH TO EVERYONE TO DAMNED WELL SAVE THEIR SOULS AND BIBLE BASH ALL THE TIME. MY SOUL DOESN’T NEED SAVING THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

    PLEASE DO EXCUSE THE LANGUAGE, IT’S NOT NORMALLY ME BUT I’M SO INCENSED YOU WON’T LET THIS GO AND I JUST WANT YOU TO LEAVE ME ALONE. Besides which “bloody” is a colloquialism in Australia, however not in England where I’m going.

    And as for the person who said their acts and good deeds are not necessary, that enlightens me very much. No wonder the bloody Christians all think that so long as they go to church on Sunday or whenever they think the Sabbath is and then come out and do filthy horrible things to people for the rest of the week thinking they are all right. They are so damned righteous. BUT I HAVE NEWS FOR THEM THEY ARE NOT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!

    As a lady said last night everyone seems to have forgotten what we are in this site for.. to DEBATE ABOUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN AMERICA WHERE THEY ARE CRUEL ENOUGH TO LOCK UP THE POOR HOMELESS PEOPLE UP IN CAMPS BEHIND BARBED WIRE AND NEVER LET THEM OUT. Now THAT is EVIL. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE ABOUT, NOT ABOUT CONVERTING PEOPLE OR POINTING OUT THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY AND THE BLOODY BIBLE IS SO BLOODY WONDERFUL.

    Yes I have been through so much of the Bible and I have found it boring, as no doubt the Quran will be, and talks a whole lot of nonsense. My attitude towards the bible is that NO ONE WITH ANY REAL INTELLIGENCE WOULD BELIEVE THAT ROT. Now you have it. You ALL have pushed me to saying this as it is and telling you straight. YOU have intruded into my home and preached to me again and again and again and again. It’s a wonder my computer has overheated and gone up in smoke. I have no doubt the Quran will be just the same as the Bible and so long as I don’t fall asleep over it and can retain parts of it then it will be all right. Of course I will have to mark off passages because I will never remember all that rot in one go, it just goes over my head because it just doesn’t make sense to me that people are so stupid as to believe it and REMEMBER, I have an IQ of over 150!!!!! And a member of Mensa.

    NOW PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE, GO AWAY. I will never get into a debate with you again. If you continue to write I will simply delete the emails and get on with my life. You are the crazy ones, you talk like people demented. However whatever rocks your boat I suppose. So long as you aren’t doing any harm believe what you want. HOWEVER at this present time you are DOING ME HARM BY INTRUDING INTO MY HOME AND NOT LETTING ME GET ON WITH LIFE.

    I have been very, very ill for over 20 years. I am now thankfully heaps better but I do not need to be wasting my valuable energy on debating such things as you want me to. You have no right to intrude upon my life in this way. I will use what I have to try and get rid of a very dangerous fundamentalist group, or at least keep them out of western countries. Perhaps you could do something like that if you weren’t such wimps as to hide behind your computers bible bashing. LEARN SOMETHING. So go out into the world and do something about the threat. I believe you may all be in America. Well you have already had the World Trade Centre come down and various other things. GO AND FIGHT THE ENEMY – NOT ME. For they have threatened that after they have got Europe they are going for the US. How does that rock your boat?

    I have a good idea, why don’t you start petitioning your weak and useless President to get off his backside and do something kind and decent for the homeless people instead of locking them up behind wire and not letting them out again. Now if ever there was an injustice that is and it’s happening in YOUR COUNTRY right here and now. What a wicked country the US must be. I have never wished to visit there and I will never go there. I flew via New York and Los Angeles in 1970 from England to Australia and although I was just got off the plane for it to be cleaned etc. I will never forget how they treated me. It was vile and I vowed to never go back there again. A young woman with nothing to hide just flying through and you would have thought I was a terrorist.

    Go and look at the English Defence League site and see what you can there. You will see all the things the “enemy” have spouted posted up for you to see. There are a few radicals in there, but don’t take any notice of them. I have a plan to work my way up in it and get rid of them, out on their ears. The British are taking to the streets in protest about the serious situation. Instead of preaching and bible bashing do something for this world other than just saving your own souls. That is utterly selfish and you need to do something other than think of self, self, self. I know I will get death threats, I have already had one on the internet. I just don’t care. They will not threaten me into submission as you will not with your preaching. I’m much stronger than that. I just don’t give a damn. People do not frighten me. I’ve had a hard life and have learnt to stand strong and tall. I have no family they can threaten to harm, just me and I do not get scared.

    However I do take umbrage at you preaching to me whilst I’m sleeping for the night to try to save my soul when I’m quite happy the way I am.

    Remember Ghandi? Do you know about him? He was the most peaceful man you could wish to meet. He was not a Christian. I wrote an essay on him when I studied modern history at uni a few years ago. He was my chosen person to write about.

    SO GOODBYE. PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT ME AGAIN, DO NOT WRITE ANYTHING TO ME AGAIN SO IT COMES THROUGH IN AN EMAIL. JUST BLOODY WELL LEAVE ME ALONE. DO NOT PRAY FOR ME, I DON’T NEED IT. PRAY FOR YOURSELVES INSTEAD BECAUSE YOU DO.

    THIS IS NOW GETTING INTO THE SERIOUS TERRITORY OF HARASSMENT AND CYBER BULLYING. PLEASE REMEMBER THAT. AND TO THINK SOMEONE HAD THE HIDE YESTERDAY TO CALL ME AN INTERNET TROLL. METHINKS IT IS YOU THAT COULD BE LABELLED THAT MORE THAN ME.

    GOODBYE. NOW PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. FORGET YOU EVER ‘MET’ ME ON THE INTERNET. I’M NOTHING TO YOU AND YOU ARE NOTHING TO ME. NOW LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jane Summarsell

    Erin, I have written how I feel to another person who was quite rude to me. I do not want a reply to this or anything else. However I felt I had to say something to you. I think we have parted, to some degree,on reasonable terms. I wish you all the good health you can get in the future. I do hope you get better and can go and live a full and happy life. We will have to agree to disagree when it comes to religion or spirituality, but so be it. However you do have my sympathy as I know what it’s like to be in your position. Do not take offence as what I have written to other people, I find you a decent person although somewhat pushy with your preaching. But if it helps you through this awful time in your life then I do not deny you that.
    I doubt we will ever meet again in the future and perhaps that is for the best. I do not wish to keep on debating about religion on this site. I merely came on to it with regard to the poor homeless people in America who are being rounded up and kept behind wire. I find that wicked. They should be doing something to help them have a leg up in life, not putting them down like that. It is a serious injustice. I would like to try and do something about it and if I can start a petition against I will.
    Goodbye and all the best for the future and may you regain your health.

  • Jane Summarsell

    Yes I have seen things with my own eyes. Now leave me alone to get on with my life. There is more to life than sitting in front of a computer debating religion with people.

  • Jane Summarsell

    I totally agree Colin. I have said in another blog just sent off that I didn’t want anything to do with anyone on this site anymore. However I came across the email with your comment in it and realised you do perhaps get what I’m talking about. I’m afraid too many people are too closed minded to be able to look into things and work out what is right and what isn’t. They believe in blind faith. I think how you live your life and what you do or don’t do all counts against or for you and you do reincarnate into a life which you can learn the things you did not in a previous life. It’s not about praying all the time. It’s about learning to be a good spiritual person. We just inhabit this body for a short time in the scheme of things but our soul, spirit or whatever you want to call it goes on and on. I have never known another person who believes what I do to behave badly or hurt people whereas a lot of awful things have happened in the name of Christianity and they believe so long as they go to church etc. they will be forgiven. It’s just not that easy.

    Now I’m off to do all the things I need to do. And I will not be getting into debates like this again. I shall ignore them. I learnt what I have from reading books, speaking to others and experiences I have had, it’s all a combination of things and I cannot deny what I have seen and experienced. I have questioned it all along the way over many, many years. Tried to find other answers for it, never taken anything at face value or in ‘blind’ faith. They accuse me of being stupid. I think not. I have a very high IQ and I guess that is one of the things which pushes me on to question everything.

    All the best, and again thank you for your answer. Now we have to try and do something about what we were supposed to be debating on this site, the poor homeless people being rounded up and put behind wire so they “are not seen and not heard”. Any of us could find ourselves in that position, we never know. We need to have compassion for them and help them, not herd them away out of sight so we can pretend they don’t exist. They are humans too and there but for the grace of God go I.

    Thank you for writing and supporting me. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Obviously you are a thinker and believe how you live your life is the most important thing.

  • tom p

    If the homeless people weren’t drunk all the time. Or did positive things to help communities. They wouldn’t b so bad. Why don’t you guys let the homeless people stay at ur homes?

  • V.Stallion

    Wow, there’s ONE comment relative to to this article while all the rest are arguments on Christianity and religion….Did Y’all forget about the homeless being sent to concentration camps? or do y’all care at all about this problem?

  • Tizzy Mc Fizzy

    There are over 3 times as many empty homes in this country than there are homeless people! We need to give every one of them a Home and every poor Family a better home they are just setting there empty while we build More! Move The poor back up to middle class by getting off your ass & speak up at least you frickin Sheep!

  • Jane Summarsell

    IT IS NOT ME NOT BEING VERY INTOLERANT, IT IS ALL YOU BIBLE BASHERS. I’m a Spiritualist and I’ve said that before but obviously you can’t read very well. I do not try and convert people but Christians are never happy unless they ARE. HOW DARE YOU SAY I DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS THEIR TRUTH. I HAVE AGAIN AND AGAIN SAID THAT I BELIEVE EVERYONE CAN BE ON A DIFFERENT PATH BUT ALL LEADING TO ONE THING BEING GOD. Can’t you read? But when I say those things I get howled down and told that Christianity is the only way and the Bible. I AM JUST DEFENDING MYSELF. IT WOULD DO ALL YOU BIBLE BASHERS TO REALISE THAT THERE ARE OTHER TRUTHS IN THIS WORLD NOT JUST THE BIBLE AND CHRISTIANITY. THAT IS THE ONLY POINT I’M MAKING BUT BY HECK YOU ARE NOT. HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING. TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

    HOW DARE YOU SPEAK TO ME IN THIS WAY WHEN I HAVE MADE MY POSITION QUITE CLEAR. GO TO READING AND WRITING CLASSES, YOU NEED IT, FOR I HAVE MADE MYSELF VERY CLEAR ON ALL OF THIS.

    NOW PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GO AWAY. I DO NOT WANT TO CONVERSE WITH ANY OF YOU ANY LONGER. YOU ARE CLOSED MINDED AND THINK YOU CAN TRY TO CONVERT ME. I NEVER WEAR MY RELIGION, OR SHOULD I SAY SPIRITUALITY, ON MY SLEEVE BUT I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND MYSELF. YOU ALL WEAR IT ON YOUR SLEEVES AND THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SPOUT OFF AT ANYONE NEAR YOU.

    NOW I HAVE ASKED YOU TO LEAVE ME ALONE. THIS IS CYBER BULLYING NOW AND I SHALL BE REPORTING THIS IF NECESSARY, FIRST BY GOING TO THE POLICE AND ASKING THEIR IDEAS ON HOW TO TRY AND STOP IT. LEAVE ME ALONE. And yes I’M SHOUTING AT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO AWAY AND LEAVE ME ALONE TO THE PEACE AND QUIET OF MY OWN HOME. YOU WERE NOT INVITED HERE AND YOU WILL NEVER BE. SO GET ON YOUR BIKE AND GO AWAY.

    I’M TRYING TO STUDY, I DIDN’T GET ANY DONE YESTERDAY BUT I HAVE TO TODAY. THEN I HAVE TO GO SHOPPING. WHAT A BORING THING BUT I HAVE A PASSION FOR EATING TO KEEP MYSELF ALIVE.

    NOW TO TO HELL OR WHEREVER YOU GO, AND BLOODY WELL LEAVE ME ALONE. I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU CAN SAY I’M TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WHEN I’M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM YOU ALL. THAT IS ALL I’M TELLING YOU TO DO IS TO LEAVE ME ALONE AND PRETEND YOU HAVE NEVER “MET” ME. SURELY YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO DO IN THIS LIFE.

    PLEASE GET LOST.

  • Jane Summarsell

    One thing I would like to add before I finally go and add something. When I have made it quite clear I want nothing further to do with this debate and I say ‘GO AWAY’ may I ask what part of that do you NOT understand? But please don’t ask me, for God’s sake don’t reply to me about it. Just explore your own mind, maybe even ask God, and answer yourself as to what right do you have to harass and keep on going at someone who has asked people to GO AWAY. I have ONLY defended myself on this site if you have bothered to read all the posts. I never wear my spirituality on my sleeve, it was them getting stuck into me and I purely came in in self defence. In future I will just say I never discuss religion and politics. But I had hoped they would be a bit more tolerant but I should be ‘big and ugly’ enough (as the saying goes here) now in my later years to know that Christians are NOT tolerant to anything but Christianity.

    NOW GO AWAY!!!! GET LOST!!!! What part of that do you not understand?

  • Captain Sarcasm

    No, in “that regard” he f–king wasn’t right, you closet Nazi scumbag. His plan was fascism, and his plan was genocide. You can’t just cherry pick that, you dumb@ss. It is 100% wrong. It was fascism, and if you think that is viable, well whether you want to admit it or not, that makes you a fascist. And if not being a fascist makes me one of the “sheeple” (a term people like yourself use to make themselves feel special in the presence of overwhelming evidence to the contrary of your stupid ideas) then I guess I’ll leave you alone with all the cool kids who think Hitler was “onto something.”

    You think you are going to hurt my feelings by implying that I go with the herd? What are you, thirteen?! The herd goes away from Nazism because it’s WRONG, you tool! Meaning 99% of the world possesses the chromosome that shows us how it was not, and is not, a “viable plan”–AKA “having COMMON SENSE.” But you run along and be “independent” now. You go on away from those bad old sheeple who disagree with your “I agree with Hitler/I don’t agree with Hitler” mixed-up mind. Everything he ever did from the very first thing was nonsense, and if you don’t know that, then you are beyond the reach of reason. It has nothing to do with conformity, you stupid a-hole. Try using your brain!

  • Captain Sarcasm

    Yeah, well I got a present for you. It’s called a nice, fat Fact Salad. Dig in whenever you feel like it, and Happy Holidays!

    Where in your bible does it say Jesus was born on the 25th of December? Find the passage. I double-dog dare you! I’ll be happy to wait…

    Bonus question, what does a human-sized bunny rabbit passing out EGGS have to do with the resurrection of a crucified Jewish rabbi? Hate to break it to you, but all your cards and holidays are a lie, Chester. They give you no power over others because you yourself are completely ignorant to their meaning. Don’t believe me? Go find that passage about Jesus’ birthdate. Like I said, I’ll wait while you, for once in your life, actually READ that book.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Yep.

  • EL GABACHO LOCO
  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    LOL! I don’t celebrate Easter either, because that may be the first true thing you’ve said. Easter IS based on Ishtar, which is why I don’t get involved with it. Or Christmas. Yeah, people call me crazy, even Christians. But I try to follow what I believe to be true, the Bible. Whether you follow that belief in life is your choice, but in the end everyone will know He is God. So have a good night, and I hope you’ll actually study some of the scriptures in your pursuit of believing in nothing at all. You might be surprised by what you find.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    At first yes, because I AM human after all, but now I try to follow Him because I believe his judgments good. So no, I follow Him out of love, not fear.

    Just an observation, but if I were afraid of judgment, why would I post my beliefs out here that are not only contradictory to all the atheists on this thread, but even among mainstream Christians? I’ve certainly been judged for them at every turn.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    You have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about Justin. How do you know that my experiences of God were not actually concrete, provable things versus a little voice in my head? In fact they were tangible, not merely intrinsic thought, but I don’t particularly expect someone so determined to tear down any belief in God or anything else for that matter to BELIEVE anything I say.

    And the truth is, often what God says runs quite contrary to our emotions. How is that a reflection of our emotions when the things He says are exactly the opposite of what we feel?

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Keep in mind that a lot of Christians – the true ones, not Sunday Christians – were once atheists. Myself for one.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    No doubt that since I draw the conclusions that the scientists are wrong about the origin of the universe, that must mean I am an idiot.

    I have little experience of quantum physics, because I’m not a quantum physicist; I’m an author. But I do know something of anatomy and biology, and the sheer complexity of life defies the nonexistence of God. Explain to me how, without intelligent design, the billions of species that exist on this planet came into being? You said estimates say there are eight billion planets similar to earth. Assuming those planets have life (which is not guaranteed simply because they exist), what brought them into existence?

    I’m assuming the belief you subscribe to is the big bang theory (one that has been proven to be incorrect, by the way). So you honestly believe that, in a nutshell, there was nothing, and then there was something, and then that something divided and made everything?

    Which is more unlikely here? That an all-knowing God designed the Universe with the precision needed to create and sustain life, or a bunch of inanimate elements with no purpose and no capability of sentient thought simply got together one day, threw a party, and created the incredible diversity of life this planet hosts? I’m paraphrasing here for the purpose of brevity, but the point still stands.

    My personal belief is that God is far more likely, but you’re welcome to draw your own conclusions. In the process, I kindly request that you not insult those that believe differently than you. God bless you, and have a good evening.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    That’s not a proven fact actually. The Bible has been subject to more scrutiny than any book in the history of mankind.

    The translations from 1599 (the Geneva Bible) and the modern day translations (NIV, NRSV, etc.) all pretty much say the same thing. There ARE passages left out in the newer versions, which is why I do not read them, and certain words are changed in a few places, but the essential truths of the Bible have remained virtually untouched for centuries. And guess what? It still lines up with science, with no need to alter anything.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Santa *Claus.

    If you are going to present yourself as superior in knowledge to everyone here, please at least try to spell properly.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Comments like this don’t exactly further the cause of Christianity. Of course, I’m not sure if that’s what you’re trying to do, but calling people morons isn’t in line with Christ’s teachings.

  • snorky neederecker

    Yes, Dr. Evinstein, I have. In fact, the reason I came to know Jesus Christ really well is studying the Qur`an. If Allah is “God” then we are all in very deep trouble, friend. :) God bless you!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Since she referred to ONE hole in the original statement, the only place on a person’s face with one orifice, not mirrored on the other side, is one’s mouth. So your argument here is a bit pathetic, though I get that you were trying to be sarcastic and entertaining.

  • Dani

    Who’s to say that they stop after the homeless? Highly unlikely. It will probably then begin with those living below the poverty line already in government housing (just move them from one prison cell to another), then those who have their own places, and then on and on until it’s just the wealthiest and those deemed “genetically fit” to live in this world. We must do something now.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    How have I harmed your country? Or any of that? As well, not everything done ‘in Jesus’ name’ is representative of his teachings.

    By the way, I assume by your comment on ‘women’s health’ you speak of abortion. What of the child’s health?

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Those that are true Christians that follow the Bible aren’t violent either, though one should try to keep in mind that ‘Christian’ is not synonymous with ‘perfect’.

  • Kingjames510

    Church and state should remain separate period!

  • snorky neederecker

    On the contrary, the light and truth that come from Jesus Christ guided the founders of the first truly free nation on Earth, first to be without a dictator or monarch, the United States. The Founders were deeply Christian.

    “The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were
    the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then
    believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity
    are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.” 1 – John Adams, Founding Father, Signer of the Declaration

    “The hope of a Christian is inseparable from his faith. Whoever
    believes in the Divine inspiration of the Holy Scriptures must hope that
    the religion of Jesus shall prevail throughout the earth. Never since
    the foundation of the world have the prospects of mankind been more
    encouraging to that hope than they appear to be at the present time. And
    may the associated distribution of the Bible proceed and prosper till
    the Lord shall have made “bare His holy arm in the eyes of all the
    nations, and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our
    God” [Isaiah 52:10].7 In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of
    Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first
    precepts of Christianity.8″ – John Quincy Adams, 6th US President

    “I conceive we cannot better express ourselves than by humbly
    supplicating the Supreme Ruler of the world . . . that the confusions
    that are and have been among the nations may be overruled by the
    promoting and speedily bringing in the holy and happy period when the
    kingdoms of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ may be everywhere
    established, and the people willingly bow to the scepter of Him who is
    the Prince of Peace.11″ – Samuel Adams, Signer of Declaration

    http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=8755

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Santa CLAUS is a made-up figure that the Coca-Cola company was primarily responsible for making famous.

    clause (klôz) n.

    1. Grammar A group of words containing a subject and a predicate and forming part of a compound or complex sentence.

    2. A distinct article, stipulation, or provision in a document.

  • snorky neederecker

    Are you really that biased?

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Saint Nicholas was a real person. Santa Claus is a myth based off of said person.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Love that you’ve read the book of Enoch. So many Christians haven’t.

  • snorky neederecker

    I’ve seen this before, I like it a lot. God bless!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    That is unfortunately very true of many churches today. But keep in mind that just as much as true Christians that try to exemplify Christ’s teachings in their lives, there are false Christians in name only that don’t do much of anything Christ actually taught. The faith of Christianity isn’t to blame for this; false, self-serving ‘Christians’ are.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    The inquisition was actually organized, to the best of my knowledge, by Luciferians, not true Christians. BIG difference.

  • AprilJean

    The Bible says there will come a time when
    “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.” Matthew 10:21
    Don’t kid yourself.

  • Edward Mott

    You must not know how the internet works. You comment, and we gather an opinion about what you wrote. We comment, you get a notification. So if you don’t want opinions, shut up and remove yourself from the internet. :) Maybe you should just not comment on anything and keep your opinions in your little circle of friends, this way your “precious time” (of which you apparently don’t have enough of to sit in front of a computer, yet your long response probably took the better part of an hour) isn’t wasted talking to us. And my original point of “a crazy person doesn’t know they’re crazy…” << Notice what you did? You sat down and continued this never-ending conversation. Way to go. You just did exactly what you said you weren't doing… With that I bid you good day.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    Yes actually. I’m currently researching the Qu’ran as I’m writing a book that takes place about the time of the Sept 11 attacks. And I’ve been through many, many religions in my life before coming to Christ. All of them are false, except the truth found in Yeshua.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    The person that started this argument was a non-Christian, not a Christian. In this case, we are defending our beliefs against the people who would try to debunk them, not the other way around.

  • Jane Summarsell

    I can type 150 words a minute… can you?

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    has this been proven at all? If so… how terrible!

  • Dean Ace Thomas

    I hate to tell you this, atheism is a belief, you believe that God doesn’t exist, I think it’s funny how the atheists show so much fear of something that they claim doesn’t even exist, so much so that the mere mention of His name throws them into a tirade and makes them attempt to convert all around them to their belief system by shoving it down everyone’s throat, which I find amusing as I sit and listen to them bitch about the Christians doing the same thing, why don’t all you atheist’s go to your nearest mosque and tell them that allah doesn’t exist, then we will all know that you are true to your convictions.

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    It’s funny; I didn’t see any religion mentioned in WALK’s comment. It does apply to other religions, and pretty much anything one wants to apply it to. It even applies to *gasp* atheism!

  • http://Starbornbooks.com/ Erin Owens

    You haven’t researched the Bible very well apparently, as almost nothing you say comes from it actually does.

  • tryingtomakeit

    Where do the Presidents get off thinking they have more power than their bosses? Do you really think the People will put up wit these unconstitutional Executive Orders?

  • sandraleesmith46

    Ever hear of a group called the National Socialist Party? Maybe you heard of them by their nickname: NAZIS. That was, in fact, common practice among them, betrayal of even family members; and since it did happen, as historic fact, less than 70 years ago, among members of one of the more educated and enlightened populations of their day, I see NO sound reason to suspect or believe it can’t happen again. The Marxists were pretty good at it too, but among less well educated and enlightened populations, generally, so not quite as convincing an argument.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Actually, all humans are born with a “God shaped” hole in their souls, for which they seek something to fill that, as any vacuum is abhorred. Every human has some deity, whether it’s a recognized deity or not. Money, power, beauty, fame, the State {as for Marxists}, some idol, even intellect or ego, can be use in the effort to fill it. None will actually work, but that doesn’t stop people trying. Science is a popular one today too. But there is NO SUCH CREATURE as an atheist; everyone has SOMETHING in that space, because it’s how our brains and souls were designed.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Really? Name one. I’m curious because I’ve also studied other religions and not found that at all really.

  • sandraleesmith46

    You were doing great right up ’til you pulled that old chestnut our of context, like SO many do, on both sides of the fence; non-believers to shut down a discourse, and believers because they don’t understand it in the context of the Bible as a whole, which is how we’re instructed to learn and discern the Word rightly. IN context, that verse properly means that we’re not authorized to decide who is comdemned to hell and who isn’t. But we ARE instructed to judge in the sense of discernment in many more verses, in both testaments, because it’s necessary that we recognize sin and segregate it from us, and we can only do that by judging or discerning. Jesus doens’t judge to condemnation; it’s a person’s own sins that do the condemning, but Jesus did come to sort the sinners from those who would follow Him, and therefore His Father, which is also done by “judgment”.

  • sandraleesmith46

    If you’re afraid of God, that means you most likely know in your heart you have a reason to be. Why not just tell Him what it is, and repent of it, turn from it, and ask His forgiveness? Then you won’t have to be afraid of Him any longer.

  • sandraleesmith46

    God isn’t threatening anyone with Hell. There’s a difference between a warning and a threat. Suppose you see someone heading toward a washed out bridge over a swollen river, and you try to divert that person; is that a threat? Or is it an effort to save a life? It’s not now and never has been God’s desire that ANY human be sent to Hell; but there are consequences to our choices in life; and one of those is that when we sin, death is the price. God won’t cross your free will choice, even to save you from that fate; but He does try to warn you from it.

  • sandraleesmith46

    But it’s okay for the fictional religion of science to be taught in those classrooms as fact? Because that’s been going on since I was a kid. And it’s okay to IGNORE or TRAMPLE on the Constitutional rights of those who believe in and seek to pray to their God, because it bothers a few? And why does it so bother those few, if not the conviction of their own spirits that they should also be doing so? Atheists DO fight God, in their own minds every single day. And the First Amendment guarantees the free expression { as in UNRESTRICTED} of our faith too. I’ve been to synagogues and to city council meetings at which the invocation was given by a Rabbi, I’m not Jewish, and don’t believe the same as they do, but it didn’t bother me. I’ve been at city council meetings where that invocation was given by “new age pastors” too, and didn’t get all upset by it. Why does it so disturb you that someone wants to pray to his God? Neither Jefferson, nor our Constitution EVER said or mean that God and faith should NOT be part of our public and national lives; rather that clause you’re all so fond of invoking only meant that GOVERNMENT was to keep ITS hands OFF the churches and religions! In other words, exactly the OPPOSITE of how you use it as a club to silence any mention of God!

  • Asillem4

    Nevada gives their homeless a one way bus ticket to California and 3 days of medication and lets the door hit them on the ass on the way out.

  • Robert Graff

    Well, I cannot say that only uneducated people or those who are mentally unstable feel the need to use obscenities and call people names. I have witnessed many people who are supposed to be very intelligent do these things. I am not perfect. I don’t consider myself mentally ill or unstable but if i am pushed in a corner most people would be lucky to just get only a few choice words. LOL.
    That being said, disqus_ffJw1TiF6G what is your major malfunction. It should be very apparent that no one here has found your comments amusing in the slightest. That means its OK to stop being an ASS because that is exactly how you are presenting yourself. Just so you know once I read these things I usually don’t come back so any comments you make to or about me, I will more than likely not see. Not that anyone cares what I think but the bible says GOD is Light.
    So, being that he is light and all things could be light in a different phase of existence Would it not be true that all things are from GOD and remain in GOD. Energy Equals Mass times the Speed of Light squared. To me that means all things are relative to how fast you are traveling. GOD has no speed limit which means GOD IS EVERY WHEN only this can explain HOW HE IS EVERYWHERE. RIGHT NOW HE IS THEN AND NOW. IN THE PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE. GOD IS THE FILM ON WHICH ALL THINGS ARE RECORDED.

  • marcyharris92

    Just what I was thinking of this poem that is.

  • Justin Green

    There is a huge problem with your bringing in the roman census. If every person in the middle east complied with the census and returned to their home city for it. Of the Millions of people located in the middle east, it would of been a logistical nightmare. As well, there is no mention of infanticide once by historians during the so called birth of your “lord.” Not once. You would think something as horrific as killing all the children of a city would merit such a thing. But, this is where jesus and moses start to get mixed together. Along with another deity from India named Krishna. Krishna was born under the same circumstances as jesus, and had to escape infanticide as well. Krishna was also a salvation deity.

  • standup

    all this horse $hit about relegion!!!! what about the article…is it true?…if so i fear the time will come when those that have become the “sheep” of the system and the rest of us will have to fight and spill blood on our soil once again to set right the injustices that are being levied against the people by corrupt powers. IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR LIBERTIES FOR SECURITY, YOU WILL GET NEITHER AND DESERVE NEITHER.

  • Justin Green

    Huh, the bible was written by man for man. by your logic it is ‘moot’ as well.

  • sandraleesmith46

    “It’s appointed unto man once to die and then the judgment”; there’s no coming back for a “do-over” like on the playground in kindergarten, when you didn’t like now a particular play went. Karma is a HIndu belief, along with their pantheon of deities, among them the lovely Kali, goddess of assassins. God isn’t a God of wrath, but He is a God of righteousness and justice. He doesn’t condemn anyone, the individual’s own choices do that for Him. No, God doesn’t seek “blind” faith, but He does expect FULL and COMPLETE faith and trust in and reliance on Him.

  • marcyharris92

    In my relatively short lifetime a lot that was taught as “scientific fact” when I as in school–even university–are now disproven. Theories are theories. Recently some young scientists apparently found a hole in Einstein’s theory of relativity.

  • Justin Green

    You seriously do not know history very well. Go read up some more about it. And how the founding fathers were afraid that if religion was allowed to gain to much power, it would be the down fall of our country.

  • Justin Green

    Actually if you go up about a thousand posts it was a christian.

  • Justin Green

    I find your statements funny. Do you know why all religions are in massive decline? Knowledge. Knowledge now flows at the speed of light right into the palms of your hands. The unknown is rapidly becoming known, and the questions left unanswered are quickly being figured out. Human knowledge doubles every 18 months. You can either be a part of this and help humanity advance beyond stone age reasoning. Or you can get out of the way.

  • Justin Green

    LOL Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? “I’m an atheist so I can sin.” Well then, lets change the words around a little bit. “I’m a criminal, and I don’t believe in cops so I can steal!” “I’m a sky diver, and I don’t believe in the ground so I won’t go splat because I jumped without a parachute.” “I’m a race car driver, and I don’t believe in empty gas tanks, so I’ll never run out of gas!” Ridiculous your methodology of thinking.

  • Justin Green

    You have no proof, how about you give me proof without using your bible or slanted articles from christian propaganda machines?

  • Justin Green

    I couldn’t resist lol

  • Iam Cake

    I will have myself, because that is what I honour first and foremost, and is what humanity is missing…. WE DON’T KNOW OR LOVE OURSELVES! I have faith in Love, the vibration of Love. I do not give intent to lose anything, and even if I do, I will stand tall from a strong, calm center.

    Once you come to know, love and honour yourself, everything else falls into place!

    We are out of touch physically, spiritually, emotionally, energetically and mentally, not only with ourselves but with nature / mother Earth as well.

    Love, to all humans :)

  • Jane Summarsell

    Again a Christian has got it wrong. It’s the Buddhists who believe mostly in Karma and reincarnation. They say we reincarnate immediately after we die Although I do not necessarily believe that. I’m not sure about the Hindus. I have gone into the Buddhist religion a lot. I have many beliefs which are not in conflict with the Buddhists. We don’t come back for a “do over” as you put it, giving ourselves a right to live a dreadful life and then make up for it later on, we come back to satisfy our karma and experience other things we have inflicted on others to make up for the things we have done wrong before and to open our eyes.

    Now, as you don’t seem to have read my other post, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. I SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU ALL LEAVE ME ALONE. I HAVE A RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT I WANT AND I WILL. YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT AND YOU WILL. ONE OF THE THINGS I’M FIGHTING FOR AND GOING TO PUT MY LIFE ON THE LINE FOR IS TO KEEP THAT FREEDOM OF CHOICE, EVEN YOURS, FOR THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WHO WANT TO TAKE US OVER AND FORCE THEIR RELIGION ON US. I AM PREPARED TO GIVE MY LIFE FOR THAT CAUSE IF NECESSARY, AS IT’S GOING TO BECOME VERY PUBLIC AND NASTY. IT ALREADY IS. I’VE ALREADY HAD A THREAT MADE AGAINST MY LIFE. ARE YOU PREPARED TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED FOR OUR VERY FREEDOM TO CHOOSE OUR LIVES, OUR RELIGION AND OUR RIGHT TO SPEAK AS WE WANT?

    HOWEVER YOU DO NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO HOUND ME, HARASS ME AND TRY TO CONVERT ME. IT’S CALLED CYBER BULLYING. NOW YOU GO OFF INTO YOUR LITTLE LIFE AND LEAVE ME TO LEAD MINE IN PEACE. i’M ALMOST INCLINED AFTER THIS EPISODE BEGINNING YESTERDAY TO BURN THE BIBLE I HAVE IN THE HOUSE, FROM MY YOUNG YEARS, AS I DO NOT WANT LOOK AT IT, EVEN THE COVER, RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE PUT ME OFF SO MUCH.

    GET IT? HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT… I WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE!!!!!!!!

  • Justin Green

    Maybe you should submit your self to have a MRI done on you while this is occurring, I’m sure scientists would be ecstatic about the chance to study your brain while your ‘god’ is talking to you.

  • Justin Green

    Keep in mind that a lot of atheists, were once christians. Myself for one.

  • Justin Green

    Wow your arrogance must know no bounds. The Big Bang Theory is about as factual as the theory of gravity, The theory of electromagnetism. I could go on and on. Maybe you should actual read real science articles and get away from your christian slanted science stories.

  • Justin Green

    Thats why Asherah was completely edited out of the bible right? Guess you never read real articles about such things.

  • Justin Green

    Sarcasm is my specialty. Really.

  • someotherprick

    damn good fucking troll!!…..HEY what was the article about?

  • Justin Green

    Of course there’s a hole in it, Space can do what it wants, matter on the other hand can not.

  • Justin Green

    If atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair color.

  • Jane Summarsell

    WOULD YOU ALL GET IT THAT I WANT OUT OF HERE. IT’S NOTHING BUT PEOPLE ON THEIR SOAPBOXES. I DO NOT WISH TO BE INVOLVED, I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO SO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE. ALL FUTURE EMAILS WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT LOOKING AT THEM. I’M TRULY SICK AND TIRED OF THIS.

    AND FOR ALL THOSE THAT THINK I MUST SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON DOING MY REPLIES I SAY TO YOU… I CAN TYPE TOUCH TYPE 150 WORDS A MINUTE. CAN YOU?

  • Justin Green

    Okay, you seriously need to stop drinking the Kool-aid.

  • Justin Green

    Because I don’t talk to my self?

  • Todd Chaney White

    they made it illegal to “camp”within the city limits of austin texas back in 1996

  • judyt00

    I don’t need a relationship. I can stand all by myself. and by the way, the christian charities are supporting those cities locking homeless men in camps

  • judyt00

    your preacher told you that line of bull crap, didn’t he? just because something sounds nice, doesn’t make it factual.. and stop telling people what they believe, because that makes you the nazi you tend to denigrate

  • judyt00

    no! atheists have no belief in gods, yours or any other. you have no belief in gods besides yours. By your theory, you would be druid, since you don’t believe in those gods. and we DO tell muslims regularly that their allah does not exist and that mohammed was a pedophilic war lord. After reading the quran and studying diseases of the brain I tell muslims that old pervy mo was also spreading syphilis throughout the whole area because he had all the symptoms of advanced syphilis

  • judyt00

    OOO, the nazis also persecuted jews, atheists and other fringe groups that did not follow the teachings of the bible. JUST LIKE CHRISTIANS TODAY DO

  • judyt00

    ITS STRANGE HOW A STORY OF FEMA CAMPS BEING FULL OF THE HOMELESS HAS BEEN TURNED INTO A CHRISTIANS ARE THE BEST STORY/. funny how those christian charities are supporting those imprisoned homeless people by assisting the city in keeping them there. shame on you ! who is next, atheists or homosexuals? you are nothing more than a bunch of nazis

  • Andiar Rohnds

    dude, shut up

  • Stevan R. Grimes

    ” My father gave me nothing, my mother gave me nothing.” You are truly delusional! What they didn’t give you was a sense of Appreciation! Appreciation for others beliefs. For if it were not for the Belief held by Christianity this World would not be tolerable. Having Faith means having Peace and Tolerance. You are where you are, as a result of your Parents bringing you into this World with Food, Clothing and enough Education to write this B.S. on this Site. I don’t think you, know you. You are truly a lost and troubled soul or you wouldn’t be wasting your time trolling on this site about something you don’t believe in! My Mother and Father Gave me “Life” then threw me in an Orphanage so I could grow up and read this! They didn’t have to! But, they did something for me, for which, I am Truly Grateful and Appreciative! And I have God to Thank if no one else!

  • Jane Summarsell

    I realise you want to have the last word and I’m trying to get out of here and have YOU LEAVE ME ALONE. So perhaps YOU should SHUT UP. Unless, of course, any of you wish to do something to keep your freedom of speech and right to worship as you want and fight the jihadist fundamentalists who wish to change all that and possibly putting your life on the line then don’t get back to me. However if you would and you are prepared to swear on the Bible on Skype and say you will then you can write back to me. I will delete all other messages all other messages that come through. We’ll see how many “courageous” Christians there are then won’t we?

    Then if you do that I will give you an email address you can get me on and then we can work together, and with others, to keep our freedom. You don’t seem to realise it but it’s on the line in this world particularly for the younger ones as this threat may not come to fruition in my lifetime. That is a far greater problem that what we believe in i.e. the Bible, or whatever. Remember the saying “United we stand, divided we fall”. We are, for now, able to have the freedom to express ourselves.

    Also some of you need to remember this site is about the poor homeless people in the US who are being herded into camps that are like Hitler’s. Please Google his name if you don’t know who he is and show your ignorance but you can do it anonymously so know one will know you are so ignorant.

    And you Andiar Rohnds, otherwise known as “dude” looks far too young to even know who he is and what he did to this world. I do know as I was born before he died and grew up in a world on it’s knees from his pure evil.

    Now if any of you can put your money where your mouth is and actually do something other than sitting on your blasted backsides anonymously behind a computer spouting off about what good people you are to be Christians and actually do what Christ said you should do, to “do unto others as you would have done unto thyself” to save this world from a very real threat then I will respond, otherwise I WILL NOT!!!!!

    Erin you are excluded from this as I know you are very ill and when that happens you have to look after yourself first. I’ve no doubt the others have good health but probably don’t work, sit on welfare, and don’t do anything for the community as they seem to be on here all the time. I’m on an aged pension so I think I’m entitled after a life of working until I became gravely ill to have a break now. However it will not stop me doing what I have to do to save this world and our western freedom.

    By the way they, the jihadists and extremists have threatened after they take over Europe that the US will be next. All sitting comfortably now are you on your little high horses? And you won’t be allowed to believe in Christ as they will behead you or something equally as grisly.

    Now let’s see who are wimps and who have some courage. It should be rather interesting. I will add I have already had one death threat, on the net, so it is real. I wonder what it will be like when I’m getting down and dirty on the streets and it’s publicised everywhere. It just makes ME want to work harder to rid this world of such people. Now if a lady of my age can do what I’m doing surely you can……..? Even “dude”. Or will he be running home to Mummy to protect him.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Wow, that one held up almost a century! I just read an article about brain degenerative diseases that blew something I’d been taught about brain metabolism in nursing school right out of the water, not five minutes ago. It’s based on new research in the past couple of years, and almost completely the opposite of what I’d learned some 45 years earlier as a professional I lost track a long time ago of the “myths” science has been teaching as fact that have been debunked, but heaven forbid creation should sneak in there or even Intelligent design. The problem is that those walking in darkenss, and choosing to stay there really CANNOT TOLERATE the light, or those who bring it into their presence.

  • BillOtinger

    Same BANKING Families that own the EVIL Federal Reserve Stole the American Money System in 1913 with a BRIBED and BLACK MAILED President Wilson, Jacob Schiff Sent 20 Million to Russian and 300 Trained ASSASSINS in 1917 , The JESUITS were Standing by to Help,

    see Video FIAT EMPIRE and THE SECRET OF OZ on youtube

    SHORT ROBE JESUIT Al Gore Daughter Just Married Schiffs Grandson
    In some Areas SHORt ROBE JESUITS are the Sheriff, DA, Judges , Mayors etc They Controlled News Meadia Puts them in Office , ALUMBRADOS ILLUMINATI PHONY JEWS Started the JESUITS in 1526 with BLACK NOBILITY see VATICAN ASSASSINS and Video of BLACK NOBiLITY

  • sandraleesmith46

    Guess you missed the memo from your top guy, the new one, just last week… seems the Southern Baptist churches are following the herd, caving to the demands of the homosexual lobbies, and the IRS {501c3 reins}demands….

  • sandraleesmith46

    Well, the roots of “Santa Claus” are actually based on a 3rd century saint, by the name of Nicholas, who was pretty real. And then there are the secular historians who spoke of Jesus back in the 1st century; I suppose they’re liars and mythologists too? Bet you believe in Julius Caesar; yet we know LESS about his life than we do Jesus’ from first hand accounts of him, so…must be a myth, I guess, and ALL those explosions I’ve see did it wrong, because they were supposed to produce ORDER, not chaos! PLEASE!?!

  • sandraleesmith46

    Your environment will be among the “gone”!

  • Dan Leidal

    Sorry, but either I didn’t quite get my point across, or you failed to read it thoroughly… I made a distinction between homeless, and street people… And as for the case in Utah, the fellow who I caught stealing equipment off a truck was the same individual who abducted Elizabeth Smart… Being homeless does not excuse this creep’s actions… It appears that these jurisdictions who are “imprisoning” these “homeless” people are trying to fix a problem… They seem to be happy to let them go, but do not want them to stay in their town… This is not exactly a prison… I am aware of the mentally ill component,the illegals issues, the tax policies, and the bankster issues… I am not quite so worried personally about the sanitary issues, but the legitimate business people are because it chases off their customers!!! I am also sick of the double standard; we tolerate the street people relieving themselves in public areas in cities, but if someone traveling in their vehicle were to get caught going behind a bush, or discreetly away from traffic next to their vehicle, they get busted, fined, and in a few cases, charged in a way that they end up having to register as a sex offender… All because they were too far from a facility, and had to go!!! This issue has even happened with children!!! Yes, we need to do something, especially with the mentally ill… Of course, you failed to bring up the cruel, and abusive nature of a number of mental institutions in the past that also fueled their being dumped into society… It appears you could care less about the legitimate small business people, many of them families, who end up damaged by these people’s behavior… So no, this is not a “lame excuse” or “bigotry” to make it less desireable for these people to want to loiter in these towns… From what I see, these people are free to leave the area, but will not be allowed to continue to stay behaving as they do… And no, I am not thrilled about the use of “FEMA camps” for this…

  • sandraleesmith46

    Buddhists got it from Hinduism because the Buddha was a Hindu before going off on his own, And if you don’t wish to have people reply to you, the simple solution is to NOT post, but “yelling” about it is neither appropriate nor mannerly. You’re NOT the only person who has studied other religions, and clearly your choice is made; so I shake the dust of you off now BTW, I took an oath to the Constitution over 40 years ago, which doesn’t expire ’til I do, which includes all the amendments as well.

  • Jane Summarsell

    After what I’ve had said to me, the vile abusive things and disgusting things I think you will find what I’ve said is just nothing., tis very mild. And I’ve been pushed to the brink, believe me. So get off your high horse.

    And your oath to the Constitution won’t matter a jot if the extremists get hold of you. In the meantime you are quite welcome to your country. I’m so glad I don’t live in it with what you do to the poor homeless people instead of helping them.

  • Fred Cowles

    I understand your hesitation to believe. But rest assured that it in know way stops God from knowing about you. Do you even wonder why the mere mention of his name would anger you? Does it seem right to you? Look at the world around you my friend, really look at it! Do you not feel that something isn’t right? Something is coming. You even feel it inside you, but can’t figure out what it is? Examine things, know the truth. Good luck.

  • sandraleesmith46

    The NAZIS were primarily OCCULTISTS, as a party, not Christians, and I suspect you’ve been referencing that funky dictionary that libs are so wont to use. Persecution is something that Christians have been on the receiving end of far more than practitioners of; with the exception of pointing out sinful practices, and that isn’t persecution, any more than throwing a drowning man a life preserver is assault. But that’s okay, you keep on demonizing those who have the only useful answer. it’s not us your rejecting but God, and you’ll get to answer to him for that also.

  • Edward Mott

    Really? What does typing 150 wpm have to do with whether or not you should be on the internet?

  • Morvis

    Nonono they were for slicing the watermelons, ya dolt.

  • Edward Mott

    I’m not the one claiming that being written by man for man is a good enough reason to mark it as not credible. How do you know there was no prophet that spoke with God? How do you know that’s not possible? You don’t. Which means everything you “know” about religion is merely opinions of other people that you have researched and formulated your own opinion to match. Against faith logic holds no ground. The “what if” and “how do you know” questions will always be there. And nobody truly knows the answer to those questions. Those that believe in the Lord, Jesus Christ, choose to follow faith and believe that all the “what ifs” and “how do you knows” have positive outcomes and choose to use that to enlighten themselves and pick themselves up out of negative emotional situations, while others, the non-believers, choose to assume the exact opposite. So to question faith, you must also question your logic. It appears that you are assuming that because it cannot be proven one way or the other, the negative is more true than the positive, and sticking by it. Sure you have all this “research” to back it up, but is it really “research”? Or is it just other opinions of other like-minded individuals?

  • Edward Mott

    No, ding dong, He never said atheism is a religion, he said atheism is a belief. That means that you BELIEVE there is no God, and you feel anyone that does is wrong.

  • Edward Mott

    God Bless you!

  • Edward Mott

    Abso-motherfucking-lutely!

  • snorky neederecker

    hey justin, i can only troll you for so long… got other things ta do lol

  • Edward Mott

    There you go with your leftist beliefs. We are not trying to get government sanctioned prayer in schools or public gatherings. We just want our right TO BE ABLE to do so back. (Yeah, it’s in the Constitution, which the information in this article is a violation of, but we’re too busy arguing about God).

  • Ricky Trimnal

    That is sad news for anyone but true for all. Wake up people.

  • Andy

    how did this go from fearless peeps (politicians) sending others to camps to atheism vs christianity?

    here be what you all arguing about.
    atheists will not be punished by God, only ‘christians’ will be judged. oh, you don’t understand, right? works like this, if you don’t live by Gods word, you will not be judged by His word, simple…so called ‘christians’ stop judging atheists as they are free from judgement, HOWEVER, they will not inherit what comes from God’s word AND not all that call out God’s name are children of God…all i have to say…no, i am not atheist or ‘christian’ or any religion you can label.

  • snorky neederecker

    Sandra, that’s not true of my church, which is a Southern Baptist Church. The Bible describes false Christians as well as real ones, that applies to churches too. Remember:

    “The road to destruction is broad, the road to salvation is narrow and few people find it.”

    Not “most of the people” or “half the people” but “FEW” people find it. That means many so called Christians are not going to Heaven. Jesus said many people who knew He is God would also perish:

    “Not all who call me ‘Lord’ (God) will enter Heaven.” – Jesus Christ

    God bless you, Sandra. The “memo” is to:

    “LET NO MAN LEAD YOU ASTRAY”. << study the Bible, it's wonderful! <3

    That means no pastor, no church, no religion should lead you astray from the truth of Jesus Christ.

  • Daniel J. Bishop

    You know what? Let’s bicker and argue about whether or not there is a god, and ignore what is happening. People being rounded up and thrown in camps? Who cares?!?! Religious people can do real evil when they imagine that some are more important than others. Irreligious people can do real evil when they imagine that no one is actually important at all. Neither camp is free from “Me First, and Others Be Damned” thinking….as this thread clearly shows.

  • Daniel J. Bishop

    You know what? Let’s bicker and argue about whether or not there is a god, and ignore what is happening. People being rounded up and thrown in camps? Who cares?!?! Religious people can do real evil when they imagine that some are more important than others. Irreligious people can do real evil when they imagine that no one is actually important at all. Neither camp is free from “Me First, and Others Be Damned” thinking….as this thread clearly shows.

  • Alia Corbeil

    You DO know EVERYONE sins, right? We ALL fall short of the Glory of God EVERY DAY. I say people need to stop foaming at the mouth over everyone else’s sins and start focusing on their own, period.

  • judyt00

    no, there is a big difference between warning someone about a washed out bridge and not joining a group of lunatics believing in an invisible monster in the sky. the washed out bridge would be fact and the monster in the sky is only in your imagination

  • judyt00

    that is just so stupid. you do not try to force big bird into my laws or into the minds of my children your god is imaginary, just like all the other gods before him you idiot we are not afraid of your god, we don’t hate your god, we are just fed up with his ignorant followers

  • judyt00

    h ave you ever read a history book? have you ever talked to a person who was living in Germany during Hitler’s reign? I ve done both . the official religion of the nazi party was Lutheran. Only a few were interested in the ocult and that was becaust the idiot who called himself a witch and wrote books on the occult said he could give them victories if they joined his coven, it was in 1943 when the upper echelon realized they were not going to win. please get educated instead of just spouting garbage

  • judyt00

    did you ever consider your religious fundamentalism might have something to do with it? or maybe you were just trying to force your beliefs onto your grandkids?

  • Justin Green

    “What they didn’t give you was a sense of Appreciation! Appreciation for others beliefs. For if it were not for the Belief held by Christianity this World would not be tolerable.”

    As I point at China and Japan, As I point at the rest of the world before the year Zero. The worlds seemed to get along just fine without it. It’ll get along just fine when it’s gone as well.

  • Justin Green

    I scratched my head on this one. Then I came to the conclusion you’re just stupid.

  • JoeDrager

    Better solution; give them a one-way ticket and put them on a bus to NY or California.

  • TerryZ

    No Christmas presents for you young man. Use that coal that you get wisely. People need to be kept warm. Share it.

  • prick

    none. youll be dead and your body will decompose. thats what happens.

  • jeff

    yeah you’re pretty stupid…

  • Scott Milliken

    Actually sir, we have. Sometimes it is not a curb though, that would be too obvious. There has been many reports, one just recently, of people leaving the elderly to die in their own waste in bed.

  • snorky neederecker

    Sandra! So well-said. We will try to warn them, but like in the days of Noah, they will not listen.

    36“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38Forin the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
    41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

    42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

    God bless you, sandra.

  • snorky neederecker

    Judy… there are real Christians and false Christians.. be careful that no man lead you astray. :) God bless you.

  • Neil Tyson

    The great thing about science is, even if you don’t believe in it, It’s still true.

  • Justin Green

    “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,but only the Father.”

    But if the son is the father and the son does not know then how can the father? lol you theists make me laugh.

  • Justin Green

    The day I get angry at imaginary creatures in the sky is the day I ride a flying unicorn.

  • Amanda Deal

    WTF is going on here?! Is this real? I mean I know all about how they want to take us to FEMA Camps, but is this really happening right now? If so why isn’t anyone stopping them?!! Can we say 1984!

  • David MacSwain

    I don’t know who you are, but you just earned my utmost respect in the 10 seconds it took me to read that comment.

  • Timmy Wilburn

    the bible is true fact. man is not god or the supreme being of this universe. all things with physical properties was created before man and man uses these things to make other things. there is a simple law of science that is not in science books. it states: something with physical properties cannot be created from nothing with no physical properties. now with all of your ancient wisdom , how was this physical universe created from nothing?

  • Timmy Wilburn

    yourself is a physical property that was created . this physical universe was created from nothing. what you have is a soul. you need to listen to your soul because it has already been in the presence of God.

  • Timmy Wilburn

    God states this about the church: take away the roof, the walls, the pews, the doors and where am I? God is everywhere.

  • snorky neederecker

    What a load of crap… I was raised as an atheist. Nobody shoved it down my throat, I had to find it for myself. Sorry someone damaged you, but now you are the tyrant. It’s you shoving atheism (the government just declared it a religion.. and I certainly don’t’ have enough faith to be one) down everyone’s throat, even though the U.S. Constitution specifically doesn’t allow anyone to repsress the free exercise of religion, you must stick your nose in, insulting people who have the sense to see the truth, to have the faith that we are God’s masterpiece and made to serve Him… the Bible says you will spit on us, and Jesus says, “Remember, they hated Me first”… so we know how Christianity will be mocked across the world…you don’t surprise anyone with these kinds of lies… we were already told by Jesus that this would all happen….when you spit on us, it makes us rejoice, because the Bible is coming true.. especially when you start with this, with..making ~false accusations~ for instance, my kids weren’t forced into any churches either…they are not in any church whatsoever, I have a daughter who I love dearly who is a Buddhist…it’s unfortunate but I think she’ll grow out of it … just as I did :) Your false accusations is so typical of atheists… you have no moral authority because ..**the only “authority” for your morality is you**…just like any dictator… Pol Pot… Stalin… Hitler.. all mocking God the same way YOU do… they were their own god, same as you… *smh* Being rude is part and parcel of any godless, ill-educated, hateful person. I pray for you, because you are doing this to yourself, you are so prideful, you can’t bend your knees, to the Creator, this is why He will not allow you into Heaven. Why should He? Why should He care about you, when you don’t care about Him? I fail to see God as unfair. Have a nice day <3

  • Timmy Wilburn

    this physical life comes down to be willing to live a life with a set of morals that back what is right and what nature says is right to do. if it goes against nature, then goes against God and is wrong to do. man is a dumb animal that had to be taught how to take a bath, how to write, and what was right and wrong to do by our creator. even today we can still see how dumb man is when it comes to common sense about bathing, writing and having a set of morals to live by.

  • Anon

    I hardly have faith in the world as I see it today, it’s hard to have faith in someone higher than that. Who would want to be responsible for birthing the rise of humanity anyways? All we do is war, cheat, steal, and rape the earth of everything it gives us. If I was god, I would be ashamed.

  • snorky neederecker

    Sandra… I’m sure you realize that the most hateful rhetoric we’ve seen is from Jane Summarsell, who I think is a master troll. Who accuses people in a blog of “waking them up” and such nonsense? She was the one who insulted everyone, we merely told her what the Bible says… and wished her well, told her we hoped God blessed her… see, this is what happens when people deny God, He gives them over to a reprobate mind. She sees the Bible’s words as “attacking her”…lol… it’s the guilt eating her inside. When you mention what scripture says, she recoils like a snake. With the abuse she gave you, Erin, me, and others, what I see is that Jane is the most abusive person in this thread, that’s the truth, and with all the shouting and screaming and judging and downright lying she does about America – not ONE PERSON dies here of starvation, or cold, or anything else…we have tons and tons of charities and government subsidies.. it’s pretty obvious that Jane Summarsell has bought into every lie the people who hate America ever told, denying the truth, that the United States is far and away the MOST CHARITABLE NATION ON EARTH – that’s what – we give more to charity not only in our own borders but across the world than ANY OTHER NATION. Period. It makes me sick to watch this kind of “person” trolling you with their hate, ignorance, and bigotry towards Christians. God bless you, and have a great day, Sandra. You are a clearly a decent person, which is more than I can say for many in this thread that feel it necessary to abuse anyone who opens a Bible and believes what it says. <3 We are called to share that good news, even though we'll get beheaded for it.

  • Tina Elliott Brown

    In my city, (as well as many others I am sure) there are multiple motels where released child molesters/pedophiles are housed for free..why not send these creeps to these camps and house these poor homeless people in a cozy motel,rent free..Something is sooo wrong with this picture on so many levels..

  • Justin Green

    All religions require ‘faith’ the belief without evidence. Anti-theism requires no ‘faith’.

  • Justin Green

    Man, I’ve been talking nap breaks and going to work this whole time dude lol

  • snorky neederecker

    Correct Erin… anyone holding a Bible, would face persecution then…Jews, and Christians, anyone who believed in scriptures. The Catholic church did this, which is why I am no part of it and never will be. In fact they just renamed the department…the Inquisition never officially ended for them. LOL! No wonder Jesus said, “If they follow merely Man’s Laws… then they worship me in vain.” Have you seen Trey Smith’s “God in a Nutshell”? It’s free on Youtube, wonderful stuff.

  • snorky neederecker

    Gee.. are eggs good or bad for you, according to “science”?

    Is the Earth “global warming” or “global cooling” today?

    You need to study Piltdown Man. Google.

    Science changes its mind so much, and flip flops, is so full of corruption today that I wouldn’t take a “scientist’s” word for anything these days.

  • Edward Mott

    Wow, you just don’t read very well, do you? Nobody said anything about anti-theism. (It’s different that atheism.) Atheism is the BELIEF there is no God. You’re changing words to fit your perverted view of things.

  • snorky neederecker

    Lee, when you look at ruins like Pumu Punku, – that the ruins we see are much older – and those reference even OLDER civilizations, but understand, the Bible tells us this, the Bible doesn’t say it’s only 6,000 years old lol.. that’s when the scriptures began to be written, that”s all… this is like the myth that the Bible says “the world is flat” when in fact, it teaches that it is a sphere. There’s no conflict there, friend. God bless you and I hope you study the Bible, and find the truth that’s in there if you study it hard enough. It’s why the Bible maintains that not many people will. <3 Take care! *hugs*

  • Frederik ‘Fasii’ Sørensen

    Well if god let’s that happen to you, he’s a fucking douchebag. With all the shit in this world, i find it insane that you still say “God loves all his children equal”. Then why the hell is he making this world so fucking twisted. Bible thumping wackjob.
    I believe in humanity and for you to wait on your heavenly saviour is just pathetic. How about trying to change things, instead of praying. Because it clearly does not work! ;)

  • snorky neederecker

    Honestly .. why this kid Justin can’t figure out that *Jesus came to remove man’s religions* is amazing to me. Whatever!!!!

  • puck90

    LOL! You guys really don’t get how the Scientific method works. By the way, public prayer doesn’t make you a good Christian and waving a flag and calling yourself a patriot doesn’t make you patriotic. Real Christians and patriots go about their lives without fanfare; leading by example not by lecturing others. They are willing to into their hearts to ask God if they are acting out of love or arrogance. Enjoy your day

  • Frederik ‘Fasii’ Sørensen

    The religious psychos are to blame for much of this. They can’t wait for the rapture, so they can go to heaven for all eternity. And heaven is like being in church. Praying, being weird and so on, FOREVER.
    No way i want that for myself. I’m heading for hell, and with all the scientists down there already, there’s probably already installed aircondition. So fuck you very much!

  • snorky neederecker

    What cracks me up is that we have more formal education in universities than you ever will, more than likely… the fact that we reject the atheism taught there, and know the Bible is the truth – something YOU have never studied – somehow, the reality of knowing more than ~you~ do, makes you call us “ignorant”, right judy? You atheists sure have your panties in a knot …lol… with all the insults. I pray you get some education and study the Bible, which has NO error. <3 Take care and God bless you judy!!

  • Justin Green

    where do you think the word a-theism came from?

  • snorky neederecker

    JUSTIN GREEN…. ATHEIST PREACHER! tell it son lol

  • ChantelE

    This article is about the homeless being shipped off to FEMA camps. This is turning into a very serious thing and many of you people commenting on this are making about it about religion. Religion isn’t the problem here and there isn’t any reason why there should be an argument about whether or not any of you believe in God or some other religion or no religion at all. The problem here is our government. The fact that there aren’t many available jobs or homes for people to occupy. Shipping people off to camps simply because they can’t afford the luxuries as others isn’t nor should it ever be the answer. We should be helping them, not looking at them like they’re scum. For those of you who have gotten so “butthurt” and arguing about religion, you should really be ashamed of yourselves.

  • Derrick Washington

    Let me get this straight. Christians believe in something JUST because it was written in a book by men? Interesting.

  • Lila

    Ummmmmmmm guys enough Christ …look homeless camps ^^^^^^^ (they want us arguing )

  • Derrick Washington

    Christianity is based on ignorance and is used against the gullible among us. People need to really wake up.

  • Derrick Washington

    Yeah, that prayer thing ALWAYS changes things. Sure, just wait on prayer to fix things and do NOTHING for mankind yourself.

  • Derrick Washington

    I’m an atheist and I don’t show fear. I just use common sense and critical thinking. Something that’s absent in believers.

  • Derrick Washington

    Interesting. Why is it that I only see stories like this on wacko sites such as these? Do you people EVER take the time to research things for yourselves or do you all suffer from the lazy brain syndrome? It’s crazy how supposedly intelligent people let others think for them.

  • ZimZam

    First they came for the homeless.

  • honest

    I would love to see the chronically homeless shipped out of my town, it would make it a much nicer place for people who actually contribute to society to live. Oh, to dream

  • Shirley Nanos

    The way I read the plan, is next the prison population will be put in FEMA camps and made to work on projects of the city, and country without pay. Free labor, possibly not even being fed and clothed with humanity. Then they will round up Christians, they seem to be the worst offense in America. Christians wills be summarily killed. PERIOD! Nothing was said about Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc. After Christians then guess what. YOU! the general public. Those deemed not worthy to live anymore. You have it yet. its true, believe it, coming to a town near you very soon. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW! This is TREASON and not acceptable.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Amen!

  • Shirley Nanos

    Well you better stop laughing. Socialism will apply to you too. And YOU WILL NOT LIKE IT, Christian or not!

  • Shirley Nanos

    When the FEMA Brown Coats come, and they are ready and willing: your logic will do you a lot of good.

  • Shirley Nanos

    All you wiccans will also be persecuted by the Socialist regime if it gets a hold here in America. You will not be bypassed! You grab your broom and be comforted!

  • Edward Mott

    Yeah, you just completely skipped that part of your research, didn’t you? Well you are no longer credible. And with that I bid you good day.

  • Shirley Nanos

    What? you think you are immune to the tragedy of Socialism. Sorry you are not! You best be prepared for your final goodbyes. The Bible indeed covers this situation. When life on earth gets so bad it cannot be tolerated, he will see it end. He promised he would not send another flood., but he did not say what it would be. So you think because we believe in God no harm can come to us. Wrong again! We just know where we will go when he calls us.

  • Shirley Nanos

    So BIG MOUTH what are you doing?

  • Shirley Nanos

    Well, from your name I take it your hair color is GREEN!

  • Shirley Nanos

    You have the faith that those who do have faith needs to be shut up by people like you. You cant seem to live and let live. The forerunner of this faith in a lack of faiths own son converted to Christianity about the time she and the rest of her family was killed and buried without any faith at all just dead,,, not a casket, not a goodby to family and friends just killed and buried. Could that be divine justice. You decide!

  • Shirley Nanos

    So as an atheist do you accept the Muslim belief system. or only Christian?

  • Shirley Nanos

    Seems you answered my question. However, I don’t see or hear you run around the mosques saying anything like stop saying Allah, stop building Mosques. So I think you are a liar right up with the Muslim pres Obo. Oh yeah, they are now teaching Muslim in the classrooms. They are giving Muslim kids Muslim holidays off school. I havent heard a word from you hypocrites about that!

  • Richard Wilson

    Amen Brother!

  • Letthemeatcake

    You are confusing Narcissism with love.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Well you cant say your prayers, but say whatever you want because Socialism is not a respecter of persons. You will go right where the Christians go! Especially if this socialism is of the Muslim Brotherhood type. Anyone not a muslim will be duly taken care of.

  • sandraleesmith46

    That was the new head man of the whole Southern Baptist conference of churches. I hope your congregation doesn’t follow his lead, but I wouldn’t bet my life on it. The Spirit pulled out of all the churches, all denominations, globally, in ’81. He stays ONLY with the individuals who belong to Him now, and the nation fell under Divine judgment on 9/12/01, as a whole, when “leaders” gave the same wrong response to a rebuke from God, as Israel gave, which earned them a 70 year Babylonian captivity: Is.9:10, word for word. But even the Southern Baptists have been as silent as the rest, as a body, on the issues of adultery, abortion and homosexuality, as well as banning prayer from public life and all the rest of the incursions on our religious rights, which is why the rebuke came. That was the test and warning, and we flunked abysmally.

    ALL the denominations have been long since infiltrated by agents of Satan and neutralized, as far as spiritual weapons, clearly evidenced by the LACK of appropriate responses to what’s happening in this nation. Islam is now the de facto STATE religion and soon will be the de jure, complete with Sharia, as a precursor to the “pure religion of Lucifer” which is the ultimate goal of the NWO crowd. So I’m all too aware of “false teachers” and all that accompanies that. But then, I grew up in an RCC dominated area, so I was aware of false teachings, at a very early age, although I couldn’t have said why, back then, I knew they were false. I also know of the government device easily applied to virtually every church of every denomination in this nation; IRS 501c3! That chain gets yanked and the government has full control of what gets preached and taught and done in and by any one or all of them. And virtually ALL are preaching a politically correct “social gospel” that ISN’T the full and true Gospel of Jesus Christ!

  • sandraleesmith46

    Of COURSE I know everyone sins, including me! The question is where do you or I stand with God, in relation to those sins. I fail to see how tossing a life preserver to someone “drowning” in a “sea of sin” is “foaming at the mouth”. I used to do EMS in the physical realm; somehow that didn’t seem like “foaming at the mouth” either, and I see no difference other than realm.

  • snorky neederecker

    Jesus is also called the “Perfect Lamb of God” but obviously, He isn’t a sheep. *wink*

    To understand the Biblical meaning of Jesus as “the Son of God”,
    first we must examine the Biblical use of the word “son”. In the
    Bible, “son” is a term expressing an intimate relationship with
    someone or something; basically, it indicates origin, but it is
    also used to express close association or identification with
    persons or things. Even when indicating origin, this term does
    not limit oneself to one’s father and mother. One may be called
    the “son” of the following: his father and mother, his family,
    his tribe, his people, his place of birth (city or country),
    and the time or circumstance of his birth. The if “father-son”
    terminology is also used in connection with kings and their
    vassals or subjects, masters and servants, teachers and
    disciples, and almost any situation in which someone is
    subordinate to or dependent on someone else. The basic
    requirement of the “son” is to honour and obey his “father”,
    but he should also love him and emulate him.

    The term “son” is used in many other ways in the Bible, some
    of which are connected with origin but others of which mainly
    express some sort of association with or resemblance to persons
    or things. A large, somehow homogeneous group may be called
    “sons” (occupational and ethnic groups especially). Sometimes
    characteristics or qualities themselves are personified and
    regarded as having “sons” – those who possess that same
    characteristic or quality. Still also other uses of the term
    “son” in the Bible reflect the versatile and imaginative use
    of this term especially in the Hebrew language.

    A complete list of the various uses of the term “son” in the Bible
    would be too long for this essay. A few of its more idiomatic uses
    are listed below, with their literal meanings and the translations
    of the Holy Bible, New International Version (or The New English
    Bible or Holy Bible, Revised Standard Version).

  • judyt00

    if you are calling your prsident a muslim, everything else you say is equally nonsense. when have christians been told to stop building churches and why is it ok to teach christianity in my grand kids school but not any other religion? it seems to me that christian kids get christian holidays off while atheist kids, well atheists don’t have holidays, do we. you are nothing more than a big mouthed ignorant bigot. Oh and by the way, DO NOT THINK FOR ONE MINUTE THAT ATHEISTS DID NOT PROTEST THE MOSQUE THAT WAS PLANNED AT GROUND ZERO IN NY!

  • judyt00

    No, what they didn’t give him was the disrespect YOU are showing others on this site. you seem to think its a good thing that the homeless are rounded up and put in concentration camps. mighty christian of you there, buddy

  • judyt00

    only because idiot christians think its OK to destroy things because the rapture is coming. News flash, honey, there will be no rapture, your Jesus is not coming to get you, you need to think about something besides your own greed

  • judyt00

    so because someone respects the planet, you assume they are wiccan and therefore to be dismissed??? strange theory there fool

  • judyt00

    you can bet he isn’t spending %1.1 million on a steel cross a few blocks from a neighbourhood where most people are hungry at least once a month

  • sandraleesmith46

    I should be cautious about Whom I label a “monster”; I seriously suspect you and all the rest in this nation are about to meet at true “monster” up close and in person, but that’s a discussion for another time. Yhwh God isn’t a monster in any sense of that term. He loves you, even as you reject and mock Him. And my imagination isn’t that good. I couldn’t dream up what He’s given me, neither could I acquire it in any other way, and I DID try! Truly, I feel very sorry for you; that you need to call names and ridicule others for believing in Someone you claim doesn’t exist, or is a nightmare of the imagination. A washed out bridge is no more real than the fate awaiting all who continue to reject Yhwh. But as I said above, He won’t cross your free will choice, and neither will I; enjoy what time you have left, by all means, because what comes after won’t be pleasant at all.

  • judyt00

    by the way, any actual proof would do for those who don’t believe but we simply refuse to see your god in places we know he is not

  • Arthur Brutus

    You are not replying rationally.

    You agree that someone relieving himself at the side of the road should not be treated like a criminal, but your argument is that if such a person is treated like a criminal then street people should be able to be arrested.

    Nobody is excusing people for committing crimes while they are homeless. But this is about making them into criminals BECAUSE they are homeless.

    You talk about abusive conditions in mental facilities, but for some reason you seem to use that to bless the closing of mental facilities and leaving these people to die on the streets. Not rational. The solution would be to fix what is wrong in the facilities.

    I am a small business owner, and I have had both homeless and junkies camping out in the courtyard of my business. The homeless would move on when asked to in the morning. The junkies were the violent problem.

    “They will not be allowed to continue to stay behaving as they do”. Oh, they’ll go out, get jobs and buy homes? If they could do that, many of them already would have. Those who don’t want to are also unemployable by any sane businessperson.

    You’re “not thrilled about the use of FEMA camps”. How sweet. You happen to be endorsing them.

  • judyt00

    you are trying to use semantics to prove your point, if atheists say it is a belief, when in fact it is a LACK OF BELIEF in gods then you will scream its a religion. IT ISN’T A RELIGION. PERIOD!

  • judyt00

    NO, Shirley its christians who think atheists need to be shut up and who can’t seem to live and let live. i am quite sure, in fact positive that you would be cheering if atheists were locked in those camps to be reeducated( exterminated). whereas atheists would be tearing down the fences and hiding the christians from the authorities

  • sandraleesmith46

    Matter of fact, yes, I have, and listened to many vets who served in WW II as well. I probably knew about the liberation of the camps before you did, both in Europe and in the Pacific. And I know that many Germans, including Nazis were nominally Lutherans, as well as that many were of the RCC; but the official “religion” of the Party was, in fact, occultism around which the entire mentality of the party was BUILT, from the swastika up. Not just that sorcerer or whatever he thought he was, but long before he came along. In fact, he was recruited specifically. Most of the Nazis weren’t truly interested in anything religious, period. But even their propaganda films were riddled with mythology and occult symbolism; try watching a few that are still around. Especially the works of Leni Wiesenthal. I went to school and grew up around a lot of kids whose parents were among those who fled during and just after the war, not only from Germany, but from eastern Europe as well,so had a good taste of what Stalin was like as well, even remember watching the tapes of his funeral on TV. I also know about Operation Walkure, and the efforts to be rid of Hitler because they KNEW defeat was inevitable, and hoped the Allies would go a bit easier on Germany, since they mostly remembered all to well what happened after WW I, that set Germany up, RIPE for Hitler’s insanity and lies. You might try reading Alice Miller’s work on him, too. It’s quite insightful, actually. Particularly since our WH is occupied by a man of nearly identical psychological make-up!

  • Michael

    You’re off your meds again.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Wow, typical Lib; anything or anyone that doesn’t agree with your narrow and blinkered view of the world has to be stupid and/or crazy! You used an example of something you believe to be FAKE; I simply told you the original history of the real person on which that “fake” was based. It’s been distorted and commercialized beyond recognition almost, but that is the true origin of the character called “Santa Claus”. The I pointed out to you the absurdity of your claim about Jesus being a myth, by using another real person who also lived in ancient times about whom we know even LESS in truth, from any first hand account, and that others than Jesus’ close acquaintances wrote about in their histories, which are considered valid resources of historic record, like Josephus, a ROMAN. And I blew a hole in the “science” on which most of your stripe rely with such blind faith, as the replacement religion. Gee, all that education I got in so many fields was all for naught!

  • sandraleesmith46

    And on what basis do YOU deem me “pretty stupid”? Your “genius”? Dazzle me…

  • sandraleesmith46

    Keep in mind that “as it was in the days in Egypt” is also attached to the prophecies of the end times, and in Egypt, the Israelites were NOT withdrawn until AFTER the plagues, but were shielded from the worst of them in the land of Goshen, and that those who failed to follow the pattern set out, and protect their houses with the shed blood of the lamb sacrificed for that purpose, didn’t survive the Angel of Death passing through. Only those protected by the shed blood of the Lamb of God will be safe in this time as well. But even Noah wasn’t withdrawn from the judgment that fell on the Earth in his day; he simply floated above it in a shelter {ark} because he also followed the Lord’s instructions for his protection.

  • Derrick Washington

    I don’t follow religion at all. It’s all just a big fairy tale.

  • Derrick Washington

    Can someone PLEASE post a link from a REPUTABLE website about these “FEMA camps?” Let me just say this, if Bush II didn’t lock people up in these things – and he got away with a LOT – President Obama isn’t. Racism and ignorance runs deeply. Some of you need to read a book or two, or three or…..

  • sandraleesmith46

    Having done EMS in my past, among other lessons learned, I have to tell you, people do starve and die of cold or heat exposure in this nation; the MEDIA just fail to report it as such most of the time. Worse, it even happens in hospitals and nursing homes with babies and the elderly, and has for a long time. Not because all Americans would want that or not seek to intervene, but because the PTB in this world are agents of Satan, and he’s been consolidating his power over this world for the final showdown he also knows is coming, for a very long time, and we’re now seeing the closing acts of his long reign on Earth. All these things, even the rise of Islam, which is a wholly evil cult, are part of prophecy, As we see these things, we know it’s time to be keeping a close watch on the skies, because as the lightening is seen flashing across the skies, so will the return of Jesus be. And since the spring feasts of Judaism were fulfilled in His first coming, it’s most probable He will return and be fulfilled in the fall feasts when He returns, but those are a bit earlier in the fall than now, so …. a word to the wise.
    I shook the dust of Ms Summarell off already.

  • Elizabeth Gillespie

    This isn’t a fucking “religious”issue. This is a people’s issue, focus on helping others and taking a stand against bogus shit like this! Stop making it about “what you believe” and make it about what really is, and from what I see, It’s all Really FUCKED up!

  • Pulseguy

    Justin….I think a more apt analogy would be ‘bald is in many cases a choice of hair styles.’ Which it is. And, for most atheists I know they choose not to believe. And, they choose to diss any believers. It is an ‘anti’ thing with most of them. At least those that I know.

  • Derrick Washington

    More than just sitting on my ass praying to someone who doesn’t exist and waiting on that non-existent person to lend a helping hand.

  • darylhannah

    Hey Shirley, SOCIALISM IS NOT A TRAGEDY!!!!! IF YOU KNEW YOUR BIBLE LIKE YOU SAY, YOU WILL FIND THAT JESUS
    WAS A TRUE SOCIALIST!!!!!!!

  • Jamey Boyle

    Why don’t homeless people just buy the vacay homes in DETROIT then, for that dollar?

  • Pulseguy

    Common sense and critical thinking tells me there is an organizing intelligence over and above my own that is moving us and guiding us towards some end. I actually can’t see how anyone does not see that.

    However, I don’t think I can logically say any more about it than that. So, my own personal beliefs on anything more than the above are mine, based on my own preferences. But, the basic idea of an organizing intelligence seems obvious to me.

  • Pulseguy

    I don’t believe you when you say you regularly tell muslims their Allah does not exist and Mo was a pervert, and a syphilis spreader.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Hmmm Let’s see, I was trained and worked in a profession BASED on science, where I saw both the application and the SKEWING of the scientific method repeatedly, mostly the latter for MONEY! And I also took an oath to the Constitution 44 years and a couple of months back that doesn’t expire ’til I do, and served on active duty in the Navy. So, I guess I don’t understand the scientific method or know how to be a “real” patriot. As for being a “real” Christian, are you at all acquainted with the “Great Commission” which was one of the last instructions Jesus gave His disciples and all who would follow them down through history? it wasn’t to sit quietly in the background. Also, I question your comprehension of agape, as opposed to eros or philios. The Greeks had 3 distinct words to cover the different aspects of the concepts we lump into one word “love”, and which many also further confuse with the concept of “like”. When I follow the directions of my Father in Heaven, Yhwh, it IS doing what He wants of me, and therefore out of love, but an aspect thereof with which you seem unfamiliar.

  • darylhannah

    Shirley, did you skip your meds today? Are you responding to this article from you mental hospital bed?

  • Pulseguy

    judy…Google Jeremiah Wright. Listen to a few of his interviews. I heard one in which he was asked point blank, is Obama a Muslim. I think it was an NBC interviewer. Rev Wright said, and was unequivocal, that Obama is a muslim. He said he believed he had converted him, but eventually came to realize he hadn’t. The interviewer was aghast and asked ‘how do you explain he goes to a Christian church?’ and Rev Wright said, ‘he did it for Michelle, who is not a Muslim, and he did it because he knew he could not get elected if he were to be honest and say he was Muslim.’ Jeremiah Wright surprisingly came across quite intelligently and non radical. He is not a nutcase. And, if JW, who was Obama’s spiritual advisor says he is a Muslim, who are you to disagree?

  • Pulseguy

    Nice. I like that.

  • Derrick Washington

    Are you crazy or do you just play crazy on the internet?

  • Jane Summarsell

    Because you had a go at me about the time on here. Goodbye. You are just as pig ignorant as the rest of the Americans on here;.

  • judyt00

    so you can look up things on the interwebs, big deal. I grew up with a girl who was born into a dorm at Baden Baden and was hidden under the stove from the guards for more than a month until Canadian troops liberated the camp/ My next door neighbour used to scream in his sleep from the atrocities he saw in the camps. My history teacher had been a 15 year old soldier stationed outside Auswitch. the people my mom worked for both had numbers tattooed onto their left forearm. They helped raise me. I learned about the Nazis from people who actually were there, not from people who claimed to know the Nazis were for the most part Lutheren, not ocultists, except maybe goebelsThe vast majority of Nazi’s where Christians believing they were doing God’s
    work. So it ain’t that suprising after all.
    stop blaming Obama for your deficiencies, he is not a nazi, people like you who
    see nothing wrong with those camps and who think churches supporting the
    inmates are

  • RAIDERFANXXX

    santa is an ancient version of satan… and satan is pretty real..

  • builder7

    This is the start of the concentration camps in the U.S. They will implement this first on the weakest members of society and as unrest over what the corporations are doing to people becomes apparent with millions being put out of work and wages lowered so much that it will be impossible to even eat enough to get by. They will round up each class of people who disagrees with them. There will come a time when everybody in the country will be a prisoner except for the few and then they will decide to do something about it. Unfortunately it will be too late. The time is now to stop them in their fascism!

  • builder7

    If ding dong is a religion, then you are a ding dong!

  • builder7

    So, where does that put the Pagans who believe in lots of Gods?

  • JJJJ

    Not true. Socialism is about taking from OTHERS to give to those in need (after those in power get their cut, of course). Jesus spoke of giving of OURSELVES to others. Two completely different things. In one scenario you’re hurting one person to “help” another. In the second scenario both the person receiving is helped, and the person giving is helped by learning selflessness.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Please Judyt00 he is an admitted Muslim. Have you not seen any thing yet. Now they do not teach Christianity in any school anymore thanks to you crybabies. It certainly does not hurt you any what other religions do does it. NO!. It is Muslim teachings in the schools now. Lots of it. Muslim kids are getting time off from school for Muslim holidays.The Muslim credo is death to infidels. Anyone who is NOT a Muslim. I guess you are included in that group. So stop with the Christian hatred. Christians do not hate you, but you are certainly misguided. Now as far as our Man Who Would Be King is concerned. He is not an American Citizen, proven. He is a Muslim, proven. He is a homosexual, proven. He is a pathological liar, proven. He is addicted to crack cocaine, proven. He is a Socialist, proven. So arguing about an atheist versus a Christian goes it is really a moot point. Obamacare is an equal hostile law. It is NOT a health care law. It is a control law. You will be just as hurt as anyone else. Do not doubt it. By the way for your info. Today it was announced that the nice muslim has started rounding up the homeless and sending them to FEMA camps. Want a big laugh you atheist who has caused a lot of trouble by trying to take God out of America. It is against the law to be homeless. What a croc. Last comment. Even if you do not believe in God, and no one forces you to, the very teachings is what keeps a society in bounds, and lawful. Without it you will see up close and personal how society will deteriorate. Good night, and have a blessed day.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Hey darylhannah Guess what. It won’t be much longer before you get a taste of Socialism. I think you will change your mind. Just keep watching. Today Homelessness is against the law. How idiotic is that! Obama has already talked about many other nice changes.

  • Derrick Washington

    You REALLY need to get some psychiatric help. Why are you spreading ignorance like so many BREAKING NEWS stories? I’ve read mindless rantings before but you take the cake. PLEASE jump off a building and just end it all…Please.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Without a belief in something, no morals, nothing to answer to for bad behavior, just give you carte banche to do anything and everything your little heart desires.

  • Shirley Nanos

    You cant tell a jerk anything. So I know where you are going even if you do not. Have a nice time there. Talking to an idiot gets you no where. So buh bye. God bless.

  • Shirley Nanos

    wow u b crazy gurl. What did Steven say that makes you think he wants the homeless rounded up. Mighty atheist of you my dear.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Why should a Christian stop when you want us to believe what you say. You cannot prove there in NOT a God. So……..u stop telling people what to believe.

  • judyt00

    atheists don’t follow either. stop trying to force your religion onto me

  • Shirley Nanos

    So why does it hurt YOU personally if someone wans to believe in God? So much so that you want to make it illegal to believe in God. You need to get a grip.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Christians persecuting anyone today? Not that I know of. You also lie like a rug. Missy. If anything it is the Christians being persecuted again in this age.

  • Shirley Nanos

    You can call yourself anything even Lutheran. That does not mean you are. You cannot convince me you are a know all about anything. You need to stop spouting garbage.

  • judyt00

    so, I guess presbyterians are muslim, because that is where he goes to church. If Obama is rounding up the homelsee why is it only happening in states with republican governors, and CHRISTIAN GOVERNORS AT THAT. what does health care have to do with red states rounding up homeless from the cities and forcing them into relocation camps? I suggest you take your meds now, you are obviously not quite right

  • Shirley Nanos

    So since you like to inform yourself so much. You need to bone up on 2 things. The UN Agenda 21 and the Literati. Both of which is adhered to by the likes of Obama, Hillary and many other high rollers in this country.

  • judyt00

    that;s it, you cite a radical christian preacher as your source? you will note, I hope, that he is not Obama’s spiritual advisor, and now the preacher’s daughter is in prison

  • Shirley Nanos

    Not supporting the cities, silly. Supporting the people, get it, the individuals who live in the cities. I choose not to stand by myself. I have been a widow a long time, but I do not stand alone. God is my Savior, Counselor, my Friend, my Companion.

  • Shirley Nanos

    It does seem that not only do you not believe in God, you are scared to death of him. Somehow that does not compute. Better watch out that lightning bolt is sure to hit you soon. haha

  • judyt00

    you do know that more atheists have read the book than theists have, don’t you? Have you even read the whole book.?

  • Shirley Nanos

    But Bigbird, if you do not believe in eternity in hell whats the difference. I personally do not believe in Bigbird. But he is a big bird anyway.

  • judyt00

    the question is how do you know any of those things you claim as fact actually did happen? and you cannnot any more than I can prove there is an invisible pink unicorn on the moon. until the claim is proved true it is considered false, your biblical lies as well

  • sandraleesmith46

    The name calling is both inappropriate and uncalled for. And Christians don’t believe that at all, but the problem YOU have is that the label has been corrupted and co-opted by MANY who aren’t truly what they claim to be at all.Christians believe they’re to be good stewards of God’s creation, which is also what the term conservative comes from “to conserve”. And I actually don’t believe there will be a pre-trib, possibly not even a mid-trib, rapture, but there will be a rapture, you’re wrong about that. As for my “greed”, boy are YOU off base! And I’d appreciate it if you’d get over your hostility and learn some facts, before you spout off at me again, because it’s NOT the Conservatives and true Christians who are to blame. It’s the professional politicians and the “entitlement” minded folk who bear the bulk of the blame there. And those who believe money matters more than anything else, and those are NOT Christians EVER! Can’t serve 2 masters; and money IS a master.

  • Derrick Washington
  • Shirley Nanos

    But Judy Judy Judy….no one cares if you do not believe. It should make no difference to you. I could care less that you are an atheist except for the fact you will not leave us alone to live our lives the way we want to. You have to cause trouble. But still we do not try to hurt you. The Socialists will do that. Why, Why does it bother you so much that people do believe in God? That is not understandable to me. Seems I should be able to believe what I want the same as you.

  • judyt00

    yeah, and most of those people claim to be good christians

  • Jane Summarsell

    It means it doesn’t take me long to write a rebuttal to defend myself. Got it? I would like to move away from the computer but I’m studying and need it sadly. Now all you rampant Christians go and talk amongst yourselves. I’ve heard about the high and mighty American Christians, now I’ve had a taste. Oh dear God I never want to go to that pig ignorant, violent, conceited country. NEVER. Yes and I know you will say you don’t want them, then we are all right aren’t we? Just don’t write and say it, I already know what you will think.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Actually, I heard the expression many years ago, and I honestly can’t recall from whom, but when I was learning about psychology, how the human mind actually functions, I saw that born out, even by the learning there, very clearly.

  • Somni Loquence

    “Cannot prove.” Interesting words.
    But Science isn’t faith though is it? It is the opposite. It is scepticism in everything you see and hear.

    When you are taught something in science class, you don’t just write it down and accept it, you test it yourself right there in the class! You challenge everything you are taught, until the point that you have demonstrated that knowledges right to be trusted. And if there you want to make a statement to the scientific community, your claims must also pass the independent tests of a several thousand different scientists across the globe.

    And at any point, if a new discovery or a flaw is uncovered, everything can, will and does change. The bigger your name in science, the more people are out to scrutinise your work for even the slightest flaw. Nothing in Science is sacred. Nothing is EVER proven 100%, right down to how the electricity in my computer works to allow me to write this response.

    Yet it seems to work doesn’t it? The machine you are reading this post on wasn’t made possible by wishful thinking and creative guesses about how the universe works. It was made possible by scientific method.

    When your spiritually powered computer systems advance to the point that they can access the internet and make replies, then perhaps you’ll have some credibility. In the meantime keep praying and hope the signal reception improves. Your messages never seem to get anywhere.

  • Bodhi

    Or if you were a good person without a need for shitty false religion, and inherently had good morality – maybe your family and friends wouldn’t abandon you. Something most Christians wouldn’t comprehend. “BUT HAVE FAITH IN DAT DER LORD UP ABOVE! YEEHAW!”

  • Shirley Nanos

    However you want to play it puck, this country was indeed settled by Christians. Who were persecuted in the countries they came from, so they included God in whatever they did. Now if in today’s world, you do not like it that the forefathers of this country were Christians, and made sure that Christians would be able to maintain their religion they wrote the Constitution that made it clear that Christians would always be able to have their freedom to believe. Written and signed by all. Not one naysayer. So here’s the deal, if YOU don’t like it, move. Atheists are not mentioned in the Constitution. Christians are. Bottom line. Stop taking away our Constitutional rights. Along with that if you insist will be lots of stuff you atheists will have coming your way when you want your Constitutional rights. Break one break them all. Then there is a free for all, which is happening right before your eyes. When you personally start to suffer the effect of loss of freedom, think about how you were to blame for some of it with your crybaby actions.

  • judyt00

    Jesus H Christ are you seriously that damned stupid? Science is NOT a religion for fcuks sake. you need to get the hell off the internet and go to school. I doubt you even know what your constitution is.
    as an atheist I have to tell you we do not fight god we fight your attempting to force your god down our throats and the separation of church and state means both keeping the government out of religion and religion out of government. Considering how some religious people want atheists rounded up and executed, I’d say we have every right to fight religion. and its lying bigots like you who we must fight the hardest since your ignorance is astounding

  • Shirley Nanos

    There ya go. You just admitted that Atheists on the other hand do run about harassing others who have done them no harm.

  • judyt00

    OOO, you’re gonna get rounded on by sandra idiot

  • judyt00

    no, he didn’t but nice try at forcing lies onto others

  • Derrick Washington

    This is BS. I’m an Atheist and I don’t “fight God every single day.” How do you fight something that you DON’T believe in? That doesn’t make sense.

    Another thing, what happened to the ORIGINAL subject of this ridiculous notion of FEMA camps?

  • judyt00

    ah, the US military where being an atheist gets one beat up, refused commissioned ranks and all round treated like enemies of the state

  • judyt00

    no, what you are really defending is the camps being there, the homeless being rounded up like cattle and probably very soon starved to death because your preachers tell you they are not worthy of being treated like humans.

  • sandraleesmith46

    WOW the venom is thick! I didn’t look up any of that; I grew up with people who served during WW II, including both my parents, and around people who survived those camps and the like as well. In fact, i was in an area near the primary entry point from Europe into this nation at the time. My Mom was at the Navy MOB that received the Japanese POW camps’ survivors straight out of their camps and she brought home photo albums about 4″ thick each full of pictures SHE took . My Dad flew cargo in, ambulance out, all over the south Pacific. He’d been a history teacher before the war, and made SURE we understood the importance of history and learning,understanding it, and so on. Just last spring I attended a gathering right here in town listening to yet another of the survivors tell his story in my home town in AZ, an annual event with different ones living in the area. I’m NOT getting this out of just books. Alice Miller was a little girl during Hitler’s years, who grew up to be a psychiatrist and did a SERIOUS in-depth study of him and his psychopathology, because she realized how EASILY it could happen again if we didn’t learn and remember.
    And I’ve watched MANY documentaries FILMED from both sides during those years as well as studying and learning. You apparently have no idea of the mindset that Hitler exploited in the German people and O has been exploiting here among many Americans, who suffer the SAME problem; there’s a difference between a pew warmer and a true believer; the former are easily exploited, the latter are NOT. Like I said, check out the works of Leni Weisenthal, one of Hitler’s premier propaganda film makers; and try reading more about HIS history and background. He was into the occult long before he became der Fuhrer. You aren’t the only one who knows things, but apparently you missed many of the most important lessons, so fell for the SAME manipulation that the German people did. I’m not blaming O for “my problems”; I’m laying at HIS feet those things for which HE alone is directly responsible that are tearing this nation apart and destroying our Constitution entirely.

  • judyt00

    who defined those sins you think we don’t want to give up because atheists follow the laws of the land better than theists, just check prison stats?

  • judyt00

    oh, wait the people who interpret your book. Yeah, like I’m gonna follow rules set down by someone who thinks having sex with children is normal

  • Derrick Washington

    This has to be the largest grouping of lunatics on the internet. Look, can some PLEASE show me a pic of these FEMA camps in action? Wow, how can people be so ignorant AND gullible at the SAME time? DAMN.

  • Shirley Nanos

    Last thing I am going to say then out of here. Whether you believe or not, the ten commandments are a true way to live. Without them chaos will reign . Now in the past 20 years with the atheist agenda here is what has happened in America.

    No one has any morals about anything anymore.
    If you can think it you can do it without fear.
    Murder is rampant.
    Pornography is rampant.
    Child molesters are a dime a dozen.
    People can swear at will on TV and everywhere.
    No one has respect anymore for anyone.
    Kids think they are the IT of the world, not their parents.
    anything thing goes. No shred of decency is apparent anymore.

    So I say to you, without Christian guide lines, this is what you have. For over 200 years with God in our lives the America was decent, people in their private lives were happy.
    It just isnt so anymore. No God! No nothing! I am elderly, I have had a good life in America until now. I know what will happen to me with Obamacare. I will no longer get any medical treatment. The death panels ( proven) will let me know I am no longer a viable human. Do I want to die because a panel tells me I have to. No! Does it matter? No! Wait until you all see that it is not just the elderly, it will be anyone no matter what age that they want to claim is a drain on the economy. So, Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for thy rod and thy staff they will comfort me, and I shall walk with the Lord forever. That will give me comfort, what will your comfort be.

  • judyt00

    schools teach kids to think for themselves and research to look for answers and to question what they are told, the church teaches kids that to question authority is wrong and to just believe what they are told. Having experienced both I prefer the school to the church for my descendents

  • judyt00

    funny how it is true christians that are supporting the cities in putting and keeping the homeless in concentration camps, and yes, if they are not allowed to leave, they are concentration camps.

  • judyt00

    there is no side of good or evil, there is just acceptance of lies or standing up for facts. and facts are that homeless people are being forced into camps and christian churches are supporting those actions.

  • Pulseguy

    What’s your problem? Why would I doubt JW? Why would you? Is there something wrong with being Muslim? Would it be so terrible if O was muslim? I assumed Obama was not religious and was just doing the ‘God Bless America’ thing because that is what politicians do in the US. But, I saw the interview, and i believed him.

    What is crazy about that?

  • puck90

    Yeah, yeah – God has sanctioned you to be a busy body, and you have called dibs for him to fill any holes left in scientific investigation – whatever.

  • Pulseguy

    What is your source on Obama’s beliefs? I saw the interview. JW was his spiritual advisor. I would think if he came to the conclusion O had not converted it is reasonable to think he is not any more his advisor. As far as his daughter goes….? What does that have to do with anything?

  • judyt00

    they are polytheists. you’d know this if you actually got educated about religion

  • Jane Summarsell

    By the way here in Australia the word “bloody” is a colloquialism. It’s not normally anything I would stoop, never as a rule, to but on this occasion I do so as to make my point and make it strongly for you seem to not understand anything else.

    No one has taken me up on my offer of fighting the threat we are facing in this world against the fundamentalists so I can only presume you are all too scared and wimps and only want to hide behind computer in your comfortable little homes. Good luck to you, you are going to need it in the years to come. Your God will not help you then. As the saying goes “God helps those who help themselves”. You could first go and help those poor homeless people being so cruelly treated in your “wonderful” country for there but for the Grace of God go you and I.

  • Pulseguy

    Even if someone didn’t like the ‘God shaped hole in their souls’ comment, no one can deny we all seek something constantly. What is it we seek, and what ultimately satisfies it? It is apparently true everyone fills it their own way. And, we all fill our lives with defenses to assuage the fear that goes along with the hole not being filled. These defenses, anger/greed/suspicion/consumption etc., eventually come back and hurt us.

  • judyt00

    but bald is not a hair colour, which is what he said and yes, atheists choose not to believe just like theists choose to believe, but it is far harder to put the genie back into the bottle and far harder to believe in something once you realize it is not fact but myth

  • judyt00

    no sweetie, that is fear of the unknown, and a basic fear of the dark as well.

  • judyt00

    every single day on Yahoo answers one muslim or another is insulted by my posts

  • judyt00

    I heard it on youtube, Obama answering questions on his religion and foreign policy. and using a fundamentalist preacher as a source is merely stupid, they are known to lie to prove their point,

  • judyt00

    its really hard to prove something does NOT exist, can you prove the invisible pink unicorn does not exist

  • Pulseguy

    Nope, its not. It is good observation. Knowledge can be inferred, and is still a valid form of knowledge. Most important discoveries are inferred first, then proved. And, by the way, I’m not only not afraid of the dark, I am definitely not your sweetie.

    Thanks though.

    ps I really don’t care who believes what I believe. You can believe anything. I do think the search for truth is really important, but where that search takes you, to a religion, where it hasn’t taken me, or to atheism, where it has taken you, and anything in between, is fine. It is all a process.

  • Pulseguy

    Very courageous of you, hidden as you are by a pseudonym. I doubt you do much more than post.

  • judyt00

    because you try to force ME to believe what you think is correct. I never said it should be illegal to believe however, it should be illegal for you to teach kids that your god exists with no proof. it sets them up to be indoctrinated in other things, like naziism and islam

  • Pulseguy

    It isn’t stupid. Geez, you are weird. I don’t care what the guy believes. Use your head for a minute, instead of your knee reflexes. If Obama were a muslim, would he say so? It is allowed in the Muslim faith to lie about being a muslim if it is to your advantage. It isn’t sacrilegious as it is in Christianity. What is the reason why JW would claim Obama is a muslim? How does JW get anything out of that? But, I can see why Obama, a guy who regularly looks you square in the camera and tells a whopper, has a reason to lie.

    I have no reason to disbelieve JW. I have listened many times to Obama telling us something that is just not true. And, there is a reason why he might tell a lie in this instance.

    But, keep believing everything you want to. And, I’m serious. Everybody has to believe in something.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Spare me the false patriotism and the pretense that you’re NOT fighting against God; I didn’t fall off the banana boat yesterday. We KNEW back in the ’60s that science is a religion requiring far greater “blind” faith to believe in than even some of the pantheistic religions, and those are pretty far out there. Obviously, you’re an adherent. And try reading the truth about the so-called “separation” of church and state; which only meant to keep GOVERNMENT’S hands OFF religious expression{T. Jefferson}. ALL of our Founders, even the few who claimed to practice atheism, were agreed that the Constitution was the best form of governance for our nation as it was WRITTEN, NOT as it was re-written in the 1860s which gutted it, effectively, and opened the door for every bit of the crap that’s going on today. You’re the one calling hateful names and characterizing NOT I, and no you don’t have “every right” to fight us, because we have the SAME right to expression as YOU do. I had 2 ancestors who put their lives on the line with Washington, to help make that possible, and have had other forebears defending that right clear up to and including my sister and I who both served also. So aside from vituperative spewing on line, what have YOU done to actually SERVE this nation? Oh, and I wouldn’t throw any pots about ignorance, were I you; you certainly don’t live up to your name, and for the record, I have several copies of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and even the Articles of Confederation on hand when I don’t recall the exact words, and need them. That would be the SAME Constitution to which I took a public oath over 40 years ago, which doesn’t expire until I do. So, why don’t you go peddle your hate and lies elsewhere? I shake your dust off my feet, and have a sick cat to go and tend, for a neighbor.

  • Laurel Villarreal

    I’m
    thinking this article is not telling the full truth. True SC made it
    illegal to be homeless, as well as other cities across the nation. NV is
    shipping their homeless( with one way tickets) to San Francisco. And
    Greenville is getting an influx of homeless. Homeless also sent there
    with one way tickets. Even though it isn’t pretty or acceptable to just
    relocate people without trying to help them, “freepatriot” is just
    exaggerating the facts and trying to instill fear into people. Do your
    self a favor and seriously stop looking at their fear-mongering sight. I
    would. There are NO FEMA camps involved. Here is the full truthful
    story. .. http://money.msn.com/

  • builder7

    Ooh, I didn’t realize that I was talking to such a distinguished expert, your highness! So does what you just said mean that because they are called ‘polytheists’ that they are not religious. What are religions that only believe in one God – unitheists? Does it matter what the hell they are called that determines whether they are religious or not? Again, I did not know that I was communicating with such an expert at language and religion!

  • builder7

    So what does religion have to do with homeless people being forced into concentration camps?

  • builder7

    Yeah, but you should have seen what the Romans did when they disagreed with your religion or lack of!

  • Laurel Villarreal

    Notice, from the article “That second option isn’t jail, mind you, because the homeless are being
    confined with the help of a local charitable organization. It’s
    charitable incarceration, you see. The homeless can leave, but they need
    to set up an appointment and be shuttled by a van.” The services offered are inadequate, but it’s NO FEMA CAMP.

  • builder7

    You must not have read the real history of the Muslims, huh? Now be honest!

  • builder7

    Oh, is that why there are churches on every other corner in towns all over America?

  • builder7

    Obama was raised Christian and went to a Christian school when he was a child. His father is a Muslim but his mother is a Christian from Kansas, the heart of America. By the way, she is white!

  • builder7

    A preacher known to lie – while I’ll be damned you’re smart!

  • builder7

    Aww, I’ll be that you are actually a closet Muslim and do not know how to deal with it!

  • sandraleesmith46

    Same way they all do that, I guess; I’ve been posting on Disqus sites for quite awhile, and not yet seen one that didn’t wind up in this “war” one way or another. BTW, I do agree with your point about fighting something you truly don’t believe in, so just as an observation, I’d guess some of the others aren’t quite as convinced as they claim; because frankly, I’ve wondered why it bothers them so that we seek to worship a God they believe doesn’t exist. Maybe I’m a little crazy or something, but I don’t have a hemorrhage when someone wants to pray to Buddha or to their ancestors or even to Kali {unless I have reason to believe I’m an assassin’s target of course, that being Kali’s nature}. Neither do I freak out when Muslim wants to pray to Allah, for all I passionately disagree with that whole belief system,, unless in doing so that person infringes on my rights by disrupting my life in some way {blocking traffic I’m in, or a business I wish to enter, etc}, My God offers every individual free will choice, and my Constitution protects his/her right to worship whatever deity, or not, in his;/her own way, both of which I fully support. Apparently you read at least one of my posts: did I overstep that somehow that I’m not aware of? And if you have any insight otherwise as to why some feel so compelled to verbally or even physically attack any expression of Christianity, I’d sure like to hear them.

  • snorky neederecker

    I’ve lived long enough to know anything’s possible. And I’ve got masters degrees whoop de doo, have taught in a major university, as I mentioned….and just like you, I can show you plenty of evidence that he was. :) Love of Islam, social Darwinist, Hitler was no “conservative” or “right winger” like you intellectually dishonest liberals like to paint it. You are right, after all the study on him I am “completely convinced”. Have a great weekend.

  • Derrick Washington

    The first crazy thing you’ve been doing is NOT addressing him as President Obama. THIS along tells me that it’s more than just your deranged theory that he’s Muslim but you do that out of sheer disrespect for the man and the position he holds.

    You see, “your mind” are in the minority. The country spoke not once but TWICE and they ignored the psychotic rants of him being a Muslim, un-American, not OF America, socialist, racist, etc. and elected AND reelected him PRESIDENT so you see, if your kind were of the majority that would not have happened. Common sense is more predominant than people with none.

  • Justin Stochmal

    Curious as to what you define as a sin. If you’re in the camp that’s calling love a sin then I will pray for you because you need my prayers for guidance more than I need your you to point out my “sin”. If you believe that Lucifer is a force of evil, then convincing Man that Love is sin will go down in history as his greatest trick. If
    there are in fact a God and and an Adversary, it is my belief that they
    are in fact at war for your soul but using far different methods than
    you think. God offered humanity Faith, pure, invisible, and unwavering,
    that they are part of a greater cosmic good and that by following karmic
    law and treating others as they would have them treat them, they will
    come to find enlightenment, and Peace. The
    Adversary, in his depthless cunning, gave man Religion, and claimed is
    was the will of the Divine. More harm has been done to humanity over the
    cause of religion than all other wars in human history combined. I am
    sick and tired of seeing God’s name being used to justify war, hatred,
    and bigotry. If God has any law it is to love yourself and each other as
    you love Him. It is time for the the children of Faith to lead the
    children of the Word back into the Light and away from Darkness they
    have wondered into whilst believing they were on the road to salvation.
    The only true weapon against blind and willful ignorance is reason, so
    let no man or institution take that weapon from you. Surrender instead
    your fear and your hate, for these are the weapons of the Adversary. Lay
    them down, and join the true Faithful in Love.

    Write a comment…

  • Pulseguy

    OMG! Really! Well then I must be mistaken. I must not have watched an interview by Jeremiah Wright saying he tried to convert him, but couldn’t. Because……? His mother is white? His mother is from Kansas? (No muslims in Kansas I guess. And, O’s Mom Christianity was the dominant influence in her life.)

    Is it not a little conceivable that a white woman from Kansas falling in with an anti-American international socialist group, and marrying a Muslim, just might have not stressed Kansas values on her son? Maybe, a bit?

  • Pulseguy

    Crazy referring to him as O, or Obama? Give me a break.

    I am not American. I have no respect, or disrespect for the office. It is an important office for the world, which makes it interesting. But, I have no allegiance to it.

    Derrick…I can’t even remotely understand your position.

  • Justin Stochmal

    Are you kidding me? The Christians are being persecuted? Before this gets ugly, what is your personal stance on homosexuality?

  • Derrick Washington

    The feeling is mutual.

  • Justin Green

    really? Really?! What happens if a atheist runs for office? One that is open about it. Christians left and right will persecute them into the ground if they could.

  • Justin Green

    You can not prove a negative.

  • sandraleesmith46

    Yep, they sure do. And since nothing else quite fits, the individual keeps seeking to acquire more and more, and usually to “defend” his acquisitions as well, hence, I think, a LOT of the rage when those are challenged in some way. At least that’s usually the root of rage that doesn’t stem from prior actual abuse of a person. Thing about rage is that it’s a monster in and of itself and can’t be controlled once unleashed.

  • Justin Green

    Have no clue why you’re dragging Muslims into this, but okay, Stop drinking the Kool-aid.

  • Justin Green

    You were never credible, Good riddance.

  • Dan Leidal

    Since you fail to understand my responses, I will be more clear… Your point # 1: I agree that someone relieving themselves on the side of the road should not be criminal, but a homeless person would… Response: I was trying to illustrate the double standard… But first, the motorist is doing this in a place that has little impact to the public, whereas many homeless people are doing this where it needs to be cleaned up; and yes, so are a few other people… So, it appears to be a bigger crime to use a rural ditch or bush, than a sidewalk in front of a legitimate business… At the least, both examples should be treated in a similar manner… So, your response was irrational, not mine… Response to your point # 2: It is a crime to be homeless… My response; The story indicates the homeless people are being removed to the “shelter” (FEMA camp being used in Columbia, other types of facilities in other places); refusal would result in arrest… It appears that what the cities actually want is to discourage homless people from causing many problems, such as the ones I brought up… If they chose to go to the “shelter”, they would be free to go in the shuttle… They would be free to leave the area, or to get into some program or another… The reason many homeless people have gotten away with much of this behavior is due to not having any money or property… It costs for enforcement, and the judge will let them go because they can’t collect any fines… They are being delt with BECAUSE they are creating problems, NOT because they are homeless… I expect those who are behaving will stay below the “enforcement radar”… Response to point # 3: The mental institution issue was a big issue, but our government in their infinate wisdom chose to purge themselves of the problem, instead of dealing with out of control facilites and staff… Institutionalizing these people could also, and was considered incarceration by many in the past… And many of these facilities are now gone, new ones would need to be built… So, here we go again with your rational opinions… I don’t claim to know the real answers on this, but leaving these people loose on the streets to forrage a dismal living is not the way to go… It is not humane!!! Response to your point #4: You are quite lucky with your homeless people there by your buisiness; in many areas, they tend to be territorial, and combative, kind of like your “junkies”, oh wait, are your “junkies” what I am calling street people??? Point #5: I am aware that they are unemployable, or refuse to be employed… I feel they should be left alone, as long as they are not creating these problems, most of which are criminal in nature… If I understand you right, you are telling me that the homeless should not be arrested because they are homeless, and can’t help their behavior, even when it is criminal, or a legal nuisance… But if my dog barks, my stereo is too loud, or my grass is too tall, society like you says I can be arrested, and/or fined… How about enforcing the rules consistently??? Response to your point # 6: I AM NOT ENDORSING FEMA CAMPS… NEITHER IS THE CITY OF COLUMBIA!!! THEY ARE USING THIS FACILITY FOR A NON APPROVED ACTIVITY… It is actually kind of interesting to see what might happen if FEMA was to need the place while it was occupied… And Columbia is the only city abusing a FEMA facility, other cities mentioned were using different types of facilities… It sounded like the city was planning to requisition the facility, and allow an independent charity to operate it… Like I originally stated: I am not in complete support of how the city of Columbia is doing this, but I do understand why, and agree that something needs to be done… It is interesting how some people are easily swayed based on how an article is written… It does not matter how an author is oriented politically, or socially; if there is spin, its spin!!! This author employed a lot of spin in this article!!! In closing; you are seeing this as a homeless righs issue, while I am seeing this as a crime and nuisance enforcement issue… No, I do not believe these people have a right to impose themselves on others through harassment, poor sanitary habbits, and loitering… In my original post, I brought up the LDS programs through Deseret Industrustries in Utah; those programs seem to work quite well…

  • Justin Green

    Are you stupid? Even lesser animals have morals. Apes have morals, chimps have morals. Hell even dogs have morals. Maybe they all have their own version of jesus. Ape-jesus.

  • Justin Green

    Mono-theists – worship one god.
    Poly-theists – worship many gods
    Anti-theists – worship no gods

  • Pulseguy

    I know a number of atheists. I don’t know any happy atheists. And, there is some connection between scotch and atheism.

  • Justin Green

    Damnit! How’d you know?!

  • sandraleesmith46

    Depends on what you mean by “love” as English is not terribly clear about that; if you mean agape, then definitely not. Philios is seldom in error, but eros can be a sin if it leads to sinful behaviors. I agree with your faith versus religion analogy, except that karma is part of Hindu pantheism and reincarnation, as opposed to Yhwh God’s laws and commandments, although they bear some similarities. And yes, the battle is on a spirit level much more than on the physical plane, but that is also involved. On the subject of God’s intention, though, it’s to love {agape} ourselves and our neighbors as HE loves us, because you may have noticed we humans aren’t so good at it, so He’s the model we’re to follow, rather than ourselves. The Word is one of Jesus’ many titles, and as God’s only begotten Son, He’s part of the Godhead, along with His Father and the Holy Spirit, So if those were, in fact Children of the Word, they wouldn’t need led back to anywhere. In John’s gospel, he tells us “in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God”. Lucifer is a created being who came along later, so he can’t be the Word. And his children can’t be children of the Word.

    Now I have to ask what it is you’re labeling as “fear” and “hate”, because what many try to label as those things, in fact, are not those at all.

  • Justin Green

    If I was piccard from TNG I’d give you a epic /facepalm.

  • Mr Anonymous

    Who are all these dumb fucks arguing about religion, really? Stick to the god damn topic and quit trying to force your beliefs. That goes for the BOTH of you! Atheists and Christians. Shut the hell up!

  • Justin Green

    I’m a happy Atheist. Specially when there is scotch around :D

  • Mr Anonymous

    Who are all these dumb fucks arguing about religion, really? Stick to the god damn topic and quit trying to force your beliefs. That goes for the BOTH of you! Atheists and Christians. Shut the fuck up!

  • Pulseguy

    That’s pretty much what I was saying.

    Let me clarify. I don’t know any happy atheists over 50. I know some younger guys who profess ardently their atheism. But, not any older ones.

    And, they are happier with scotch in them. I’m not.

  • Justin Green

    I’mma get a t-shirt made asap.

  • builder7

    Have you had your paranoia medicine today? Do they know that you have escaped from the mental institution? She hasn’t done any of that because she says that she is a Christian. If she were Muslim she would say that. You are really living in a psychotic world there buddy!

  • My Anon

    Who are all these dumb fucks arguing about religion, really? Stick to the god damn topic and quit trying to force your beliefs. That goes for the BOTH of you! Atheists and Christians. Shut the hell up!

  • Mr Anon

    Who are all these dumb fools arguing about religion, really? Stick to the topic and quit trying to force your beliefs. That goes for the BOTH of you! Atheists and Christians.

  • builder7

    Thanks for clarifying that Justin.

  • sandraleesmith46

    There’s also a close connection with nicotine and even closer with ol’ MaryJane, for the same reasons. In psych circles, it’s called self-medicating, in spiritual circles it has a different name, but the principle is pretty much the same; an effort to deaden some inner pain/bury some memory. The sad thing is that they could achieve the desired results so much more easily, and less costly or painfully, but they keep rejecting that solution.

  • Pulseguy

    Dude. Get ahold of yourself. People aren’t all crazy because they have different beliefs than you. Try being nice once in awhile.

    Anyway, I take no meds, zero. Probably the happiest person you’ve ever met. High net worth, educated, nice home, beautiful wife. Got my share of troubles, but I don’t let much get under my skin.

    But, I’ve been lied to lots in business, and when I catch someone lying I stop believing them. Something you should consider doing. If someone lies to you repeatedly, and you continue to believe him, you actually make yourself dull and confused. Start thinking for yourself. You’ll be happier and healthier.

  • Pulseguy

    My best friend was deep into his cups one night. We had been having a conversation about spiritual stuff. He is borderline an atheist. What holds him back from being a full atheist is fear there is a God, and he will be punished for his lack of belief. He said, “The problem is your philosophy is completely wrong, and it makes you happy. Whereas mine is completely right, and it makes me miserable.” I think he nailed it. We both laughed. He could see how ridiculous that sounded. But, he can’t let go of his position.

  • redley62

    But God says; For the fool in his heart; says there is no God Psalm 14
    In my lifetime, I have seen allot of fools. Some in here, too.

  • sandraleesmith46

    That is kind of funny, but from a human logic stand point it is true. He just missed the “key ingredient” that changes the WHOLE thing around. That’s sad, I wonder what or who drove him away? But keep praying; there is an opening there somewhere or he wouldn’t be worried about being wrong.

  • ManTwo

    You keep harping on this. Yet, these words have definitions. They are not open to your your personal whims and reinterpretations. If it’s some era of complete doublespeak and the world is upside down, sure ‘anything is possible’. But I don’t think it’s the right way. It’s disingenuous. If you have become so indoctrinated into a political ideology that you start redefining words, then that is troublesome.

    For instance, you seem to think ‘conservative’ belongs somewhere on the left and right spectrum. It does not. Conservatism as a political and social philosophy promotes retaining traditional social institutions. So, in a Left leaning environment, such as Stalinist Russia, the conservatives were extreme left. Similarly Liberalism opposes traditional conservatism and seeks to replace absolutism in government with representative democracy and the rule of law. You’ve conveniently redefined these words. A thinking person knows that both extreme left and extreme right have proven problematic in their own ways.

    Overall, you seem to be parroting things politicians have said, or perhaps parroting things that have been written in the style of the above articles. Unfortunately, you’ve bought hook line and sinker complete lies. FEMA camps, Hitler on the left, Obama born in Kenya and I have no idea what other uneducated nonsense you believe in. It’s just all complete nonsense, perpetrated on you by evil people.

    When you need to blindly believe in something, believe in Jesus, his life and his teachings. I won’t fight you on that one. But when it’s education, politics and not religion; in regards to your multiple masters you claim to have, I am curious as to what, where and when. Because like I said, you sound intellectually disadvantaged as your political views are not informed. In my personal view, I think it is a great evil towards mankind that you have in your heart and you need to get back to your foundation before it is too late.

  • Jane Summarsell

    I’m only here this once now. I have finally got a ‘clear’ email page and I want to keep it that way. I know exactly what happens when you comment Edward Mott, I found out the hard way when I kept getting emails. Then I got up the morning before last thinking it was in the past day and a new day had started and found the whole page full of comments from all of you. I didn’t realise you cared about me so much. LOL I had really got under your skin hadn’t I? However I felt so annoyed at my home being invaded and having no peace when I had left it the night before and thought that would be it. How wrong I was. I didn’t think you all cared that much so obviously you must think I have something to say which just might convince you you are all wrong But basically my home was being invaded by righteous pompous pricks who have absolutely no idea about this world other than your good ol’ US of A. A place which I have absolutely no time for with their warmongering, however I do care about the western freedom we enjoy and am prepared to do something about keeping it.

    And please remember if you hadn’t been so keen to invade the Islamic countries they wouldn’t have got their backs up so much and would possibly have not been such a terrible threat as they are today.

    However I have a little time in between mowing the lawns and pulling up weeds before I must clean the house for an open inspection tomorrow. I thought I would let you know that I do know how it works on the computer. You comment to me, I get an email from you. Doesn’t take much of an IQ to work that out so with my genius level one I’m sure I’ve got it! Get that Edward?

    If you are so ruddy marvellous all of you Christians and care so much instead of just sitting and praying or reading the bible why don’t you get up and do something to make this world a better place. For a start did you read the post that said Erin was very sick? I know what it’s like to be sick like that, I was 99% bedridden for 17 years and very, very sick for over 20 in all and I still get a lot of pain, and it’s been bad yesterday and today. But I have to keep going somehow.

    Why don’t one of you “marvellous” people find out if you live near Erin and perhaps go and help him out? I’m sure he has awful trouble doing the most basic things in life and would need help and appreciate it so much. He’s a Christian so he would know where you are coming from and you would have that much in common. I do not deny his Christianity if it keeps him going in his hard time, just don’t push it onto me. He did not bleat about it, it came out in conversation, unlike so many who just moan and see their glass as half empty instead of half full when they have good health and are tucked up in their nice little houses. Mine is half full. Erin’s is half full from the way he spoke. What is yours? Think on it if you don’t understand what that means.

    I used to nurse very ill people, they don’t get any sicker without going out in a box. I loved that job, I used to look forward to getting up at 5 a.m. to get to work. I loved it because I could make the lives of terminally ill people just a bit better by doing things for them and letting them know I cared.

    Why do you not get off your butts and get out there and do something like that? I’m sure would look upon you more favourably than sitting here on the internet being trolls. There are a lot of Christians out there who do not preach but get up and do good things in this world helping the sick and people in times of trouble. I have deep respect for them. They understand what I’ve been talking about.

    You know it’s beyond me how this got around to so many people spouting off their religious beliefs when there is so much suffering going on in this world, such as the homeless people in YOUR country who are being locked up and yet it’s a case of “there but for the Grace of God go I”. People who have fallen on hard times and need help probably thanks to your silly country which lent out too much money and then it hit the wall putting the whole of the rest of the world into recession. YES, your country started all this with sheer stupidity. Go and petition the Government about it, although I do reallise with your President it’s going to be hard going. But hey you voted him in.

    And I notice no one person has taken me up on the idea of joining me in the fight against the Islamic Jihadists who, if/when they manage to take us over, will make Sharia Law the thing and we will all have to be Muslims whether we like it or not or get beheaded as infidels. And YES it’s happening. If you would just take some time to research it you would find out. But not one of you has the guts to come and help me, with other people, to try and stop this before it gets any worse. I have said I will give you personal details to contact me if you are willing to get out into the streets, to come out from behind your computers, and do something to make our governments sit up and do something. And yet your country, the good ol US of A, was the first one to get hit by the terrorists. Remember New York? If you don’t then I invite you to look it up on the internet.

    But no you do not take me up because it’s dangerous. I mentioned I have already had a death threat and you are all too cowardly and hiding in the woodwork to help anyone do something about it. And too busy reading your bibles.

    I have had remarks that your constitution will save you. Oh dear me that did make me laugh. Go and educate yourselves and you will find out that it WLL NOT! No form of Government in the western world is free from threat. They are plotting and planning on how to overthrow us and bring in Sharia Law. So although it may not happen in my lifetime as I’m not young anymore I’m going out to lay a foundation for people to work on to protect themselves, I care about future generations, and if I lose my life doing it then so be it. It will not have been in vain.

    But you are just cowards, sheer outright cowards. You hide behind your Christianity and computers being holier than thou thinking you are invincible. YOU ARE NOT!!!

    And if you won’t do that then at least read the article on here that this is supposed to be all about the homeless and do something about that. For a so called Christian, rabid Christianity, you do such awful things to people it defies description. Thank God I don’t live there. It’s no better than Stalin and his camps in Siberia. No better than Hitler with his camps. It’s in the same league. I guess one day they will just disappear and you will no more see them and no one will think about it anymore. Will you give it another thought? I bet the answer is NO. Remember when tucked up safely in your own home in front of your own computer living your life like you want it, “there but for the grace of God go I”.

    I must do my housework now and get some food. Goodbye. And think about what I’ve said. You jolly well need to. By the way, do not write back to me. You will make me think you care about me and you respect me and want my way instead of yours. My wouldn’t that just be funny! lol

  • Justin Green

    Lightening bolts are Zeus’s favorite weapon. But you wont let Zeus into your heart. So I guess you’ll be going to Tartaros.

  • Justin Green

    I’m also a very happy atheist in the company of naked women. Oooooh buddy!

  • Frederik ‘Fasii’ Sørensen

    Tragedy of Socialism? I live in Denmark, a socialist country. And we are A LOT better off than the USA.
    What you are experiencing right now is Fascism.

  • Be The Change

    For Christ’s sakes, this is why your country is so broken – your government is turning your country more and more into Nazi Germany by the day and all you can do is argue and quarrel about religion. Stop talking and DO SOMETHING.

  • Dean Ace Thomas

    Glad you think you are somehow superior in your non-belief, that’s laughable.

  • Dean Ace Thomas

    Atheists would be hiding Christians? Yeah, I can sure see that from the tolerance they have always shown towards Christians in the past, get real, I personally don’t want anyone locked up in a concentration camp, well, maybe rapists and pedophiles, but that’s a different subject, why are atheists always so down on Christians? I have never yet heard a singe one complain about Muslims, and they shove their beliefs down throats alot more than Christians do.

  • Dean Ace Thomas

    I would argue that you have “faith” that God doesn’t exist.
    Faith: something that is believed especially with strong conviction
    Do you not believe with strong conviction that God does not exist? It sure sounds that way to me, you can no more PROVE that God doesn’t exist than I can prove he does, it all falls completely on FAITH, I can’t “prove” it any more than you can prove the color orange to a blind person.

  • Dean Ace Thomas

    Even if you choose not to believe in one thing, you are still believing in something, we can argue this for days, but neither side will “win” so I am not gonna waste my time any more.

  • pragmatic Jim

    City
    councils are often composed of the the lowest common denominator of
    the political spectrum. The fact that this council was hit with a
    “perfect storm” of stupidity and bigotry in no way proves that FEMA
    camps are part of a grand conspiracy to round up “undesirables”

  • Edward Mott

    So now you bring up something that happened over 1000 years ago? Yeah, you have no more facts. Let’s use information from over a millennium ago and try to pass it off as relevant today. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

  • Guest

    You have yet to offer any facts, Sure, they’re facts to you, because you have faith that what the scientists tell you is true. There’re still entirely too many what ifs, and how did this… For example: How did this universe in all it’s great size get created? You think that it was just there one day? Something or someONE had to create it. What’s to say there really is a higher power? Yeah, science has a theory about the Big Bang, with the operative word there being “theory” <Not proven. Your truths for you are not truths for me. You have your faith that God doesn't exist, and I have my faith that He does, and He loves you, even if you don't believe in him. And Dean brought up an interesting point that I would love to hear your atheist opinion on: Why do atheists only target Christians? Why not Jews, or Hindi, or Muslims, whom are more adamant about shoving their religion down everybody else's throats than Christians are. Christians practice their faith either at home or in a church, Muslims like to have public prayer where EVERYBODY (atheist, Christian, or whatever walk of life you come from) can see. Christians, while you will claim they shove their religions down others' throats, do not. They only defend themselves and their faiths, and will do so to the death if necessary. If you ask me, that's way too strong of a force to try disprove with a bunch of untested theories.

  • Edward Mott

    You have yet to offer any facts, Sure, they’re facts to you, because you have faith that what the scientists tell you is true. There’re still entirely too many what ifs, and how did this… For example: How did this universe in all it’s great size get created? You think that it was just there one day? Something or someONE had to create it. What’s to say there really is a higher power? Yeah, science has a theory about the Big Bang, with the operative word there being “theory” (that means it’s not been proven). Your truths for you are not truths for me. You have your faith that God doesn’t exist, and I have my faith that He does, and He loves you, even if you don’t believe in him. And Dean brought up an interesting point that I would love to hear your atheist opinion on: Why do atheists only target Christians? Why not Jews, or Hindi, or Muslims, whom are more adamant about shoving their religion down everybody else’s throats than Christians are. Christians practice their faith either at home or in a church, Muslims like to have public prayer where EVERYBODY (atheist, Christian, or whatever walk of life you come from) can see. Christians, while you will claim they shove their religions down others’ throats, do not. They only defend themselves and their faiths, and will do so to the death if necessary. If you ask me, that’s way too strong of a force to try disprove with a bunch of untested theories.

  • Edward Mott

    You are such a dildo (with the brains of one, too). I am not using semantics to prove anything. I never once said atheism is a religion, nor do I believe it is a religion. I only said that atheism LIKE religions are based on BELIEFS and UNTESTABLE theories. Ipso facto, it’s based on faith. :) But you are too close-minded to realize that, so I am no longer talking to you.

  • Edward Mott

    Never once did I try to push my religion “down your throat” as you claim. Never once did I attack you, until you attacked me. P.S. WE don’t send you the email (you never should have signed up for Disqus if you didn’t want to get bombarded with emails). We don’t care about you, we only care that, as you did, we get our point across. It’s not our fault you decided to go to bed instead of continue the conversation. It’s not my fault that everything I’ve said to you is true. And in regards to your comment about words per minute, which still makes me laugh, this is not a pissing contest. There is no “I’m better because I can type faster than you.” Boasting and bragging has no place in this conversation. Now, I only read part of your drivel because it just seems that you really don’t understand things. You want to talk about religions that shove their beliefs down your throat? Look at Muslims. End of story. They’re willing to put to death (this is still in practice today) those that don’t believe in their religion.) But you’re only adamant about talking to the ones on a website. If you’re so adamant about YOUR beliefs, how about YOU quit sitting around the computer and do something about it? Why don’t YOU go help Erin? Why don’t YOU quit preaching when you claim to be doing just the opposite?

  • Joshua Rastra

    The funny thing is……”good” christians pass these laws. “Good” christians ARE the greedy ones. It’s pretty typical and not surprising the least bit. Most christians i have met are so concerned about their outer appearance and “oh my what will people think” mentality that they forget the important things in life. If you’re going to claim something, at least stand by it. I’m not any religion….and I can tell you right now I would never make it illegal to be homeless. What trash thinking this is.

  • Edward Mott

    Builder, you must be that special kind of stupid. “Ding dong” is a term of endearment that I have endowed upon the dunce. A name which I now bestow upon you as well.

  • Lilie Mnuk

    I grew up here in the United Socialist States of America. I noticed it right away and wasn’t laughing from the get go. I’m laughing at “Church” like they ever did anything good. They actually killed, or caused the death of, an enormous amount of people in history and still continue to cause damage. They are part of the socialist state of the world and what needs to evolve as well (spirituality that is, which is not synonymous as church or Christian, etc.). As a matter of fact, it is down right offensive for someone to separate themselves from me with such a vague categorization of themselves, i.e. calling themselves a Christian when I and half the world aren’t that. And to think if I don’t believe in some words “being saved” that I am going to hell. How much more socialist can you get? This happened to me when I was 5! So lolololol…. For real answers visit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7BRvKjJyEo This guy alone has such a great understanding and so many solutions, and he’s not alone! There are millions with the solutions (Aha! Parenting for parenting based on facts) but there is something in the way! One thing is blind-faith in the wrong teachings of churches, parents, and idols. When these people open their mind, things will change faster. There are other problems too, but this is definitely a huge one.

  • peacetoall

    I agree 100% with what you said. Couple of thoughts I’d like to share, if religion makes you a better person then go for it just don’t condemn other religions. Don’t be talking about God getting mad and sending all people who don’t believe he’s real to he’ll because that’s hilarious. We need to put all our own personal differences aside and do what we know in our hearts to be right. Fact is we are destroying each other over religion,politics,racism,sexism,greed,list and all the rest of it. The planet and all belong to it is been systematically destroyed also. We need to unite as one and start to build for not just our future but mother earth and all her beautiful belongings. Peace,love and unity for all living organisms.

  • Leigha

    Being a Christian is about having a personal relationship with God… Jesus Christ.. Look up lee strobel case for Christ. He is real… And as far as Christian telling others that they are sinners, we all are sinners including Christians some go about it the wrong way, but if they are a true believer they are just trying to warn you what God said.. The wage for sin is Death… If you don’t accept Jesus dying for you then you will have to answer to God for your sin.. One day every knee will bow and Every toung confess Jesus is Lord..

  • peacetoall

    Can I ask people this question because I’m very curious as to what people think or believe. What is god?

  • snorky neederecker

    Thanks Charie… I just realized when I woke up this morning.. Hitler wouldn’t even marry his longtime Girlfriend Ava Braun…lol.. *snork* What a typical lib. ;-) Social evolutionist, racist bigot, Islam lover, pretend-Catholic, and one of the Bent One’s servants, Hitler defied the kind of delineations we make today in regards to political right and left. To me, “Ph.D.” means “piled higher and deeper”, on that one flaunting his degree from Brown U. I always attended big state Us, like UCLA, Purdue, University of Washington…and as for PhDs, I never had the desire to appease a slobbering committee of those leftist whackjobs that head the departments of our universities, defending my ideas. Masters level is where most of the coursework is. BTW… Aren’t those sideways hats for patriots? heh. Just sayin’. Have a great weekend, kid.

  • snorky neederecker

    Er… Judy? Atheism was recently deemed a religion by our secular goverment. :) check it out. It’s a religion. It has its own saints, its own mythologies, its own “leaders” and they even have a church now. It takes a hell of a lot more faith to be an atheist than I have, when I look around me, and see order coming out of chaos (the opposite of the law of entropy) and not ONE fossil that proves evolution (google Piltdown Man, the evolution hoax) …If I am wrong, in worshiping our Creator (Jesus told us, He is God’s veil, He is God) then .. no big deal, but if you, friend, are wrong – then not only are we all in trouble but you face the consequences of that – isn’t it, as Pascal would wager, a better bet that we are made in His Image as it is said? We prove the Bible true all the time, in science we see it, for instance, The real Bethlehem star, skeletons of giants with two rows of teeth and six fingers – and see patterns such as the blood moons – on feast days of the Jews – it appears “their God” is Yah Weh and He is quite real and powerful – why would you take such risks? Do a comparison sometime between Islam’s Allah and Yah Weh…I think Yah Weh will win. heh. Just sayin.. hey… have a good weekend, judyt00.

  • charlie

    can we please stop debating nonsense. can we please stop fighting each other. can we please stop talking about it. can we please do something. i know it’s harder, and we’re waiting for someone to start it for us so we can simply follow; but can we please do something real.

  • snorky neederecker

    psst ed… the government recently announced atheism is a religion.. and it has its own church.. google time, d00d. God bless you :)

  • snorky neederecker

    God bless you Leigha!! <3 You beautiful Christian you. Have a great weekend.

  • snorky neederecker

    *applause*

  • snorky neederecker

    Judy … that’s mean and untrue. A Christian would share their home with you and feed you… let’s remember who does all the world’s CHARITY, shall we?? It’s atheists that have been mean-mouthing here and have called for the deaths of Christians – which – by the way, is happening around the world now as the Bible predicted it would.

  • snorky neederecker

    “Those who don’t learn by history are bound to repeat it.” – Those are the weakest link, Ed. God’s Word and wisdom and truth never changes, and it’s painfully obvious you’ve never bothered to study it. You’re intellectually dishonest, friend. :( *thumbs down*

  • snorky neederecker

    EPIC FAIL…. I am a former atheist, I was for decades… and have studied the religions of the Earth, hold degrees… and I am a Christian. Terrible thing to say, Derrick, and shows your painful ignorance, friend. :(

  • snorky neederecker

    Judy… you’re so afraid of God it’s hard to watch. :(

  • snorky neederecker

    Well-said, Pulseguy!!!!

  • snorky neederecker

    Are you always this rude or do you just play an ahole on the Internet?

  • Guest

    I agree with this wholeheartedly. Religious cockroaches pop out everywhere anymore.
    You’ve had two thousand years and get a clue. . .. it doesn’t work, just wastes time.

    Next in line are those smuggies who claim to “contribute to society”. Open your eyes. If you haven’t noticed there are virtually no jobs available NOW that don’t involve blatantly ripping people off or something tied to military. Both of which are violent crime if you honestly look at it. Passively existing in plain view is being sold to dumbed down slaves as pseudo criminal activity.

    I apologize for pointing this out this way. As soon as the shocking reality of this sinks in maybe we can all work together toward some kind of balance rather than pointing fingers, spewing scripture and locking people up for living.

  • booyakisha

    Haha, everyone turns on eachother. The topic is very interesting. Yet, people aren’t accepting everyone is different. Who cares, not one person is the same? The reason everyone is even on this thread right now, is because human beings are being moved or detained in FEMA camps. Removed from society. Not who has a religion, and who doesn’t. Just be a good person, and let people believe or not believe. Concentrate on the problem at hand. Unity among the people will prevail. If you believe in God and that he will come in Rapture. Don’t just sit around and wait. Stand up for what you know is right, and help the human race succeed. People who don’t believe, don’t condemn the believers. They are just as human as you. United we stand and divided we fall.

  • snorky neederecker

    You’re right, we should address him as “President Alinsky”.. since he taught about Saul Alinsky in school, after being taught those principles by his role models… communists, all. Everything this President follows the book that he taught from, Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. By the way, that book was dedicated to Lucifer himself, so, I’d wager down deep, this is another Luciferian. Google Lucis Trust, and its history… and the UN. The UN is what these people worship politically now. Derrick, you need to read so much more than you have….it isn’t that we “disrespect” Mr. Obama as it is we know him and his alliances with everyone from Bill Ayers and his wife – to Tony Rezko – to the Muslim Brotherhood that he now has aided and abetted across the globe, even linking him to the Westgate Mall murdering spree. Obama in his own authobiography said, “If the winds shift in an ugly direction, I will stand behind my Muslim brothers”, has said the sweetest sound he ever heard were the Islamic calls to prayer, and that America is not a Christian nation, that we shouldn’t follow the words of Jesus…. I don’t think you’re really paying attention…you may not even know the word “BENGHAZI” and the crimes worse than Nixon ever dreamed, that this so-called president has done… and you are defending him blindly……we’ve known for years now, the black liberation theology that Rev Wright’s church taught is NOT Christian – as I have said, the Bible talks about real Christians and false Christians all the time. It’s a false Christian church, a cover for communist and Islamic theologies. By the way… “re-elected”? No, reappointed…The cheating on this election was rampant, which is why the polls were showing Obama losing, and then suddenly he won – but the polls show his popularity continued to drop, and now is in the 40s………..*fail* Don’t believe it? Look with your own eyes… bogus voter registrations in Ohio, for example: 20%. Amazing… how much did Obama win by, there? Only 3%. 158% turn out elsewhere, and districts where NOT ONE PERSON voted for Romney hahaha yeah right, fair elections are a thing of the past. Way past. *smh* More koolaid, Mister Derrick?

  • Guest

    share the land

  • snorky neederecker

    Derrick doesn’t read much…………..and like a good Obamadrone, likes to marginalize others with “you’re crazy” if they bother to show him facts.

  • snorky neederecker

    I’m praying for your friend, pulseguy :) God bless you.

  • Edward Mott

    Hahaha, I had no idea something so ridiculous could be possible… Then again, Obama’s still in office, so I guess anything’s possible, huh?

  • Bree Craw

    All the commenters below are doing exactly what Illuminati want us to do. Where’s the love? Can we not all just get along so we can diminish “their” power. Peace.

  • snorky neederecker

    “But, not any older ones.” … Man’s happiness is fleeting, that’s why. It’s real joy we’re talking about. That is about God, and it’s eternal.

  • Edward Mott

    What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I know His word and wisdom never changes. I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that I’ve never studied it, so please, enlighten me. The only thing that’s changed is man’s interpretation.